tomatoes
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Post by tomatoes on Apr 19, 2017 9:15:32 GMT 10
If you had to stay closer in to town for some reason, would you 1) compromise what you want and buy the size house you need on about 1/4-1/2 acre with lots of other houses nearby but in a location that is further than you'd like from the things you need to be near but still ok, or 2) would you buy the size house that you want very conveniently located for current needs but on a small block AND a super cheap larger block a couple of hours away to put a smaller house and storage sheds on and to gradually add fruit trees etc to?
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Post by ziggysdad on Apr 19, 2017 15:01:28 GMT 10
Option 2 gives you better quality of life on a day-to-day basis and you then have a weekender to improve over time as a bug out location.
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Post by tomatoes on Apr 19, 2017 18:32:58 GMT 10
With option 2 my concerns are * the difficulty of looking after plants when we may only be there once a month - especially the difficulty of getting a veg garden going * not having time to spend there - family stuff getting in the way * the difficulty of getting there if there are any issues with transport
And where do you store extra supplies? Some at each place?
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Post by token on Apr 19, 2017 21:49:51 GMT 10
I would question the why you have to stay closer to town aspect first. I find a lot of people are bound up believing this when it isn't correct. The thing is, both options pose a dilemma imo.
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Post by Peter on Apr 19, 2017 21:57:51 GMT 10
Given the choice I'd live on an acreage a way out of town. But that wasn't an option.
Option 1 has the disadvantage of population density, but would probably work better if TS doesn't HTF.
Option 2 not only has cost of a negative (with purchase price, stamp duty, upkeep and rates, etc), but as mentioned before the maintenance of two properties would be a pain (especially in the one that's only visited occasionally). If the property a couple of hours away is intended as a BOL, will you be able to get there - particularly if you need to drive on roads that may be gridlocked.
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Post by Morgo on Apr 19, 2017 21:59:45 GMT 10
If you have to stay closer to town for work or whatever then;
Option 2.
Lets face it SHTF may never happen, do you want to be driving so much further to get to places every day? The cost in time and fuel doing so every day, every week, every year adds up to be quite a lot.
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Post by jo on Apr 20, 2017 0:46:43 GMT 10
I have gone with option 1.... cheaper place about 1 hour from where I work, have dropped my hours at work and say I am "semiretired" I still earn enough to live but have the space and time to live the good life and there is an option of getting a job closer to home (large country town about 20 mins away) just waiting for the right one to come along!
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Post by gasman on Apr 20, 2017 8:18:55 GMT 10
We are very blessed living in our Bol Picked up cheaply as a weekender 20 yrs ago- so I know the difficulties of setting up a retreat when your not there all the time While not as isolated as u would like if shtf it's not bad and being there all the time gives for greater security and ability to run animals crops etc and practise the lifestyle we would adopt post collapse For Victorians this weekend is the hema "festival of the sword" at Monash uni, weekend may 6 is knifemakers convention and weekend may 20 is the shot show
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Post by ziggysdad on Apr 20, 2017 11:53:55 GMT 10
If you have to stay closer to town for work or whatever then; Option 2. Lets face it SHTF may never happen, do you want to be driving so much further to get to places every day? The cost in time and fuel doing so every day, every week, every year adds up to be quite a lot. Option 2 provides more family time (if that is a factor for you). I moved closer to work two years ago and now walk 15 minutes to/from work everyday. I cut out 30-45 minutes of driving each way and get an extra 5-7 hours a week to spend with my daughter (she is 4 and I relish this additional time)
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Post by frontsight on Apr 20, 2017 21:52:08 GMT 10
Option 2 for me
I have just put down deposit on a tiny brick box close to work and most things I do, people are relatively tame in the area. I didn't really have a choice, GF flatly refused to live away from the train line, I have done well moving her away from the CBD..... no major shopping centers (no looting) surrounded by a cemetery, uni ground (I hardly see any students) and a golf course so less people to worry about. The only escape route in case of grid lock is the train track, which I have id a few entry/exit points along the way.
Next step is to save up for 2 yr or so and try and get a small piece of land 1-200km from town.
This is not ideal but I will save 1-1.5 hours a day so I can work out and prep more.
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Post by paranoia on Apr 20, 2017 22:51:18 GMT 10
My choice would be option one.
With the two properties you'll be splitting your resources. Extra land doesn't get you anywhere unless you have the time/energy to 'work' it.
I've moved away from larger livestock and just have chickens at the moment... I could pretty much do all the 'homesteading' type stuff I do on 1/2 an acre, it would just mean less freedom and closer neighbours. I think you really need to live in these systems, become a part of them, if you want to produce most of your own food.
It all depends on if you're going to rely predominantly on storage or production. I think the retreat style property can work if you have really good stores at that location... so you don't need to rely on developing a food system during a SHTF event.
Also not mentioned yet is connection to community; it's a lot harder to develop relationships if you're only in a place once a month. Lets say you've only got half an acre and have people all around... yet you know these people and have good relationships with them, enough that they'd help you out in tough times and vice versa... how much of a negative is it really? Again it comes back to getting out what you put in though... if you're not willing to put in the work to develop those relationships it may be negative.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 0:27:47 GMT 10
I agree with the comments directly above. I tried the city living and some acreage further away and it stretched me to the limit, every time I wanted to do anything, what I needed was always at the other place, so progress on everything was slow to going backwards most of the rime and frustration levels got to near breaking point, where I'm is where I'm at, and I would never consider owning two locations again.
I was interested a couple of years ago when I experienced a bush fire, that closed a few roads and the authorities put out a call to enact your bushfire plans of stay or evacuate. The population is not that high in the area I was in, but the road turned to grid lock and there were accidents all over the place as impatient motorists gave up on road rules to play rapsody rules. So the least appealing option to me is bugging out and should be to others too when a SHTF event occurs.
happy prepping
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