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Post by tomatoes on Dec 2, 2019 8:35:09 GMT 10
Has anyone seen any recent articles about food price hikes or availability? I know that a short while ago there were a few reports about potential price increases around Christmas because of the drought, but I keep expecting to read something more about it because of the fires now on top of the drought. I’m not finding anything.
I was talking to someone in Northern NSW who had lost all their crops to the fires and who said others were in a similar situation. They were also expecting more fires considering how early in the season it is and how dry everything is. How can we not have price rises and food shortages? And is this the new normal?
Thoughts?
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 2, 2019 15:39:51 GMT 10
I know pork has increased due to Foot/Mouth disease in Asia, so we are sending our stocks overseas to cover the shortfalls.
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 8, 2019 10:02:57 GMT 10
I know pork has increased due to Foot/Mouth disease in Asia, so we are sending our stocks overseas to cover the shortfalls. Read more: ausprep.com/thread/5887/food-price-hikes#ixzz67T8E1Vnz>>>>>>>> There is a report out, that I can't find now, saying food prices will cost the average Canadian family an extra $500 or more in 2020. Much of that being increases in meat cost.
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Post by tomatoes on Dec 9, 2019 22:05:49 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Dec 10, 2019 19:20:03 GMT 10
There were some big losses in orchard industry in SA due to ... irony alert ... a big-ass hail storm .... which somehow slipped past all the insane heatwaves we've been getting.
Basically our rural areas are either droughted out, on fire, experiencing crazy extreme heatwaves very early in the year or getting smashed by hail.
I'm just waiting for the locust, frogs and a river of blood.
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 11, 2019 9:11:24 GMT 10
I've noticed meat prices going up each week - the specials we once enjoyed are now regular prices on meat from a few months ago. Even tinned food (Edgels) up slightly, and specials are less. But, the cheap imported food from China/Asia is still dirt cheap.
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Post by Beno on Dec 11, 2019 17:15:45 GMT 10
grow meat chickens, that’s my goal for the next 2-6 months after i get the egg layers sorted. anyone can have some chickens even in most towns. The biggest issue is what breed? cornish X’s are a patent product and can’t be bred by the hobby farmer unless you fork out $2 a chick, not much return on investment there after all the effort. I’m thinking sussex as a meat bird. Any ideas?
If you don’t have a vege garden and chickens don’t complain about food prices. The lazy westerner is getting the fist with food costs so go start a garden and coop now if you haven't already. We’ll save a minimum of $15 a week or $780 a year on eggs when in production. thats 3 doz a week. yes we like eggs but the Mrs cooks better than a chef and uses a lot in baking etc.
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Post by spinifex on Dec 12, 2019 11:28:40 GMT 10
Sussex are good. I cross roosters of that breed with Isa Browns. End up with large brown birds with dark heads and wings that lay well, put on good meat and are more camouflaged against hawk attack than white breeds.
A mate and I have both tried Plymouth Rocks (acquiring the breed stock at significant cost) and they were not good. We both got rid of them after two years of struggle. I think that could have been more a fault with the particular genetic line we got rather than the entire breed. They were clumsy, slow growing and prone to unexplained deaths. But they looked impressive when fully grown.
I rate Pekin bantams very highly as well. Great little brood hens that are capable of successfully raising half a dozen chicks from full sized breeds
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Post by norseman on Dec 12, 2019 13:12:25 GMT 10
Smoke contamination of water tanks has always been an issue in my area during fire emergencies thus bottled water from supermarkets especially 10 litre packs has disappeared everywhere! Apparently there is now a nationwide shortage!
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 13, 2019 11:50:11 GMT 10
An interesting thing I noticed at our local Costco wholesale store the other day.
For the holiday season they have frozen whole lambs from Australia. Have not seen them have that before. The price was $145 CDN, and they seem very popular with the people from middle eastern cultures here. Our friends with the butcher, locker shops have standing orders for whole lamb when they can get them.
Got me to thinking, I haven't had lamb of any sort since I was a kid when the shearing crew from Mexico would come through. Taco with lamb and peppers, with coffee strong enough to float a spoon.
Now I'm hungry...
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 15, 2019 13:50:28 GMT 10
An interesting thing I noticed at our local Costco wholesale store the other day. For the holiday season they have frozen whole lambs from Australia. Have not seen them have that before. The price was $145 CDN, and they seem very popular with the people from middle eastern cultures here. Our friends with the butcher, locker shops have standing orders for whole lamb when they can get them. Got me to thinking, I haven't had lamb of any sort since I was a kid when the shearing crew from Mexico would come through. Taco with lamb and peppers, with coffee strong enough to float a spoon. Now I'm hungry... That's about $160.00 AUD. We can't buy a lamb for that price. Guess who's getting ripped off.
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Post by bug on Dec 15, 2019 14:37:45 GMT 10
In all honesty, this kind of food price rise is meaningless. In wealthy western nations, unless you are particularly wasteful with your money (not a prepper trait) food is not even 10% of weekly expenses. If this was a third world country and food required 60-90% of income, then it would be critical.
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 16, 2019 14:05:34 GMT 10
That's about $160.00 AUD. We can't buy a lamb for that price. Really I suspected lamb would be reasonably affordable there.. I haven't ask what our friend with the butcher, locker plants gets for a whole lamb. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In wealthy western nations, unless you are particularly wasteful with your money (not a prepper trait) food is not even 10% of weekly expenses. True.. As a percentage of total income it likely works out that way... However.... There is a report out, that I can't find now, saying food prices will cost the average Canadian family an extra $500 or more in 2020. Having that extra $500 on hand would mean the difference of replacing that old set of car tires when it is safe and convenient for my families safety rather than having to wait and take the chance of having a blow out, then still having to replace the tires. Maybe not a good example, but you get the idea...
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Post by frostbite on Dec 16, 2019 15:16:07 GMT 10
Where I live is being overrun with feral deer. No shortage of free meat here if the prices rise too much.
Even the government is saying they need to be culled:
The deer invasion is coming, warns Andrew Cox, the chief executive of the Invasive Species Council (ISC).
"[Deer] will be eating Sydneysiders' gardens, creating traffic havoc and wrecking bush land remnants that have been nurtured back to health by thousands of bushcare volunteers," he said.
The ISC, a not-for-profit conservation group, regards feral deer as the country's worst emerging vertebrate pest problem in Australia. Modelling shows that deer could easily spread across the entire mainland, says Mr Cox.
In Wollongong, perhaps the most affected urban area in Australia, Lord Mayor Gordon Bradbery said deer are eating the "lovely camellias" in his backyard. They're munching on the roses in the city's botanic gardens and increasingly coming into backyards, particularly those near bushland.
The deer are causing car crashes and near misses. They're also triggering erosion in the escarpment - the equivalent of a deer superhighway running parallel to the Princes Highway from Sydney to the south.
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Post by spinifex on Dec 16, 2019 15:53:29 GMT 10
In all honesty, this kind of food price rise is meaningless. In wealthy western nations, unless you are particularly wasteful with your money (not a prepper trait) food is not even 10% of weekly expenses. If this was a third world country and food required 60-90% of income, then it would be critical. I'm going to guess that you live without kids? Perhaps in a double income family? Tucker is a killer with teenagers in the house. We spend sh!t tons on food from shops on top of what we produce at home and we don't even do take-away or eat out.
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Post by Beno on Dec 16, 2019 18:42:03 GMT 10
We spend 300 a week on food, 2 adults and 2 kids. We eat fresh food, as much meat as we want and pass on the pre fab crap that many other families seem to eat. That pre fab crap is where the cost is at and also where your next cancer or coronary is at too. we don’t buy any chinese shit unless we get duped which is increasingly common as they gain more of a foothold into our domestic markets.
We started shopping at out local IGA again and the price went up a bit but the quality went up a long way. We are regulalry shocked when we have the kids friends over who have never tried certain foods such as cherries, mango corn on the cob. We are even more shocked when a checkout chick can’t ID a leek, beetroot or sweet potato.
we’ve set up abode for what is now 9 hens of one is laying and the others will be online in about a month, i did that this week. Meat chickens will come after some more consideration. Sheep paddock planned for the next month or so and cattle after that when we get a bit more feed. That will help the bottom line a bit as i know someone who will process a steer down to main cuts for $400. Sydney prices for the same thing are $1500+. Ill be processing the sheep and chickens myself saving more$$.
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Post by Beno on Dec 16, 2019 19:17:28 GMT 10
I jist fact checked myself with the missus. $300 one week then down to $200 the next so about $250 average for top quality food.
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Post by bug on Dec 16, 2019 19:42:03 GMT 10
In all honesty, this kind of food price rise is meaningless. In wealthy western nations, unless you are particularly wasteful with your money (not a prepper trait) food is not even 10% of weekly expenses. If this was a third world country and food required 60-90% of income, then it would be critical. I'm going to guess that you live without kids? Perhaps in a double income family? Tucker is a killer with teenagers in the house. We spend sh!t tons on food from shops on top of what we produce at home and we don't even do take-away or eat out. Wrong on both counts. What percentage of your income goes on food?
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Post by dadbod on Dec 17, 2019 7:24:22 GMT 10
I'm going to guess that you live without kids? Perhaps in a double income family? Tucker is a killer with teenagers in the house. We spend sh!t tons on food from shops on top of what we produce at home and we don't even do take-away or eat out. Wrong on both counts. What percentage of your income goes on food? it seems you are talking about different things. one talking about income, the other about expenses. food is a big expense for us, as we are usually pretty frugal and dont spend much on other things, but its not a big percentage of our income. I dont like food being cheap due to volume produced, and i would be prepared to pay more, if the value was given to the producer, but it would likely get taken off by the supermarkets. we just bought 60kgs of beef and lamb off a farmer. would love to be able to get other food that way too. i could get eggs locally as our hens cant produce the 3.5 dozen eggs a week. fresh produce is much harder, and buying at a farmers market is often a load of crap. i have seen them buy it from woolies and sell it at the market as organic for double the price, if not more.
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 17, 2019 8:57:51 GMT 10
Tucker is a killer with teenagers in the house.
OMG the memories..... Or nightmares at times... When my kids were teens, I would come home and would never know who would have there hind end sticking out of my refrigerator. Like the saying goes, boys will stand in the fridge and devour.. Always top to bottom it seemed. Girls were just as bad, but they would nibble top to bottom, then back up.
NONE... Absolutely none of them ever learned the formula for refilling the ice cube trays and putting it back in the freezer. And all would leave the empty milk carton back on the shelf...
I had fun messing with them.. They wouldn't eat a liver, turnip, spicy pepper dish at the table. But they would eat it out of the fridge.
Was fun. But like said expensive on one income to deal with.
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