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Post by spinifex on Feb 13, 2020 8:18:51 GMT 10
eg. Took me 3 weeks to get a simple steroid injection into a shoulder injury because we have a shortage of radiographers (I then paid $400 for a 3 minute proceedure with him). So find a GP who knows how to do it without ultrasound. They do exist, but most of the young 'uns have not learned, are afraid to do so, or it's not wortht the time and $/effort to upskill.
Yeah right. Do you have any idea what wait times for a doc are in Rural SA? Trying to 'shop around' would take far longer than waiting 3 weeks. Besides, the doc that referred me was already a 60 year old veteran. If he ain't gonna have a go ... no one else is. We did have a lovely chat about his upcoming holiday to Spain and he gave me some great drugs to take my mind of the pain. Don't ask me about child birthing in rural hospitals either ... apparently that's just too goddamn hard these days so ... off yer go to the nearest city. A process we used to be able to get through just fine pre-1980's and as far back as the 1880's, thanks to the wonders of modern medicine, is now too risky for a small country hospital. Some progress that is. At this rate, by 2050 babies will only be allowed to be born in hi-tech research facilities.
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Post by SA Hunter on Feb 13, 2020 18:26:55 GMT 10
I wonder how this virus thing will impact fuel prices in the short term if half of China are not driving their vehicles? In Adelaide fuel was as low as $1.05/litre. Ours at home dropped to $150.0/litre.
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Post by wanderer on Feb 13, 2020 23:48:13 GMT 10
I wonder how this virus thing will impact fuel prices in the short term if half of China are not driving their vehicles? In Adelaide fuel was as low as $1.05/litre. Ours at home dropped to $150.0/litre. $1.70 here where i am, thieving fuzzboxs.
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Post by bushdoc2 on Feb 14, 2020 6:55:53 GMT 10
Still many unknowns and we cannot make a call on the virus on the information available. As others have said, the risk is more to the supply chain than from the virus. Currently is R0 is sitting at 2.2 and its death rate looks like it is settling out at 2% and 20% hospitalisation rate. So in theory not really a SHTF virus. The efforts that have gone into containment are going to have a big effect on trade / supply lines. That to me is going to be the interesting bit. Some major airlines are flying in and out of Australasia with 20% load factors - that is unsustainable. Rumours abound a big asian carrier is likely to go belly up within a couple of weeks if it keeps going like this. The virus could still surprise us - there are a few unknowns, but I wouldn't withdrawal from society based on current information The virus itself does not seem to be more than 1/3rd of the problem. Like the stock market crash triggering the great depression, shares did not kill anyone, their reaction did. Shutting down trade will impoverish and kill many.
Oh, and Spinifex, believe me, I know the situation. Seriously, I'd ring around each practice within a 2 hour drive and see who can do it. Insurance, accreditation and bureaucracy have ruined rural medicine for the country people.
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Post by Tim Horton on Feb 14, 2020 6:57:16 GMT 10
At this rate, by 2050 babies will only be allowed to be born in hi-tech research facilities. >>>>>>> With this as a "for instance" this is a two fold issue.. Much the same in this area we are seeing now, as most any rural area. First.... Politicians "cutting costs" by eliminating money for local (rural) services.. The most needed local services are the ones the locals can least defend there selves against the bureaucracy. Second... Hospital, clinic systems maximize profits by doing all they can "in house" and in population centers. All while minimizing liability of any kind.
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Post by spatial on Feb 14, 2020 11:56:14 GMT 10
At this rate, by 2050 babies will only be allowed to be born in hi-tech research facilities. >>>>>>> With this as a "for instance" this is a two fold issue.. Much the same in this area we are seeing now, as most any rural area. First.... Politicians "cutting costs" by eliminating money for local (rural) services.. The most needed local services are the ones the locals can least defend there selves against the bureaucracy. Second... Hospital, clinic systems maximize profits by doing all they can "in house" and in population centers. All while minimizing liability of any kind. A few years back they did the same in Cobar NSW as the hospital did not have incubator and IC ward, so made it illegal to deliver babies. A few months later a woman arrived at the hospital in labour and they told her she has to go to Dubbo 3h drive. She gave birth on the roadside between towns. They they set up a policy if someone in labour arrive at the hospital they mange the person and call a flight to transport them to Dubbo. The latest is that they give free accommodation in a motel paid by the state for up to something like 10days prior to date to expectancy. One woman they allowed her to go 2 weeks overdue prior to being induced - that is a long time and a lot of family issues to deal with. Also major pain to visit midwife etc.. 3h drive and being pregnant . It is insane.
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Post by wanderer on Mar 12, 2020 23:09:24 GMT 10
It might be time now, footy season has kicked off and so will this pandemic!
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Post by bug on Mar 13, 2020 7:02:29 GMT 10
I wonder how this virus thing will impact fuel prices in the short term if half of China are not driving their vehicles? Already has. The cheap unleaded was $1.15 yesterday. $1.45 a few weeks ago. Needless to say, my jerries are now all full.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 14:16:04 GMT 10
Community transmission occurring in Victoria now, that was my cue to go into social isolation mode. It's prob a bit early for some but I have my elderly parents here and they aren't in good health.
Anything else I need from this point will come via internet shopping and home delivery.
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Post by norseman on Mar 13, 2020 14:30:40 GMT 10
It might be time now, footy season has kicked off and so will this pandemic! Shit bag PM currently telling the country all non essential crowds greater than 500 now banned! So how is that any different to a fuggen Peak Hour suburban train with 700 workers on it?? I'll tell you the train is full of tax slaves risking their lives to go to work to pay the Gubbermint bottom feeders!!
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Post by spatial on Mar 13, 2020 15:13:03 GMT 10
I wonder how this virus thing will impact fuel prices in the short term if half of China are not driving their vehicles? Oil prices have crashed faster than previously recorded. It has spooked markets. Shipping and air travel is way down. In NSW the biggest fuel user is rail. Saudi Arabia started an oil war with Russia - it is a race to the bottom. tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil
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Post by bug on Mar 13, 2020 15:36:27 GMT 10
It might be time now, footy season has kicked off and so will this pandemic! Shit bag PM currently telling the country all non essential crowds greater than 500 now banned! So how is that any different to a fuggen Peak Hour suburban train with 700 workers on it?? I'll tell you the train is full of tax slaves risking their lives to go to work to pay the Gubbermint bottom feeders!! Many companies are already telling workers to arrive and depart outside of peak times and to work from home when possible.
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Post by bug on Mar 13, 2020 15:37:12 GMT 10
At this rate, by 2050 babies will only be allowed to be born in hi-tech research facilities. >>>>>>> With this as a "for instance" this is a two fold issue.. Much the same in this area we are seeing now, as most any rural area. First.... Politicians "cutting costs" by eliminating money for local (rural) services.. The most needed local services are the ones the locals can least defend there selves against the bureaucracy. Second... Hospital, clinic systems maximize profits by doing all they can "in house" and in population centers. All while minimizing liability of any kind. On the plus side, Trudeau has been quarantined.
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Post by Tim Horton on Mar 13, 2020 16:39:16 GMT 10
Yes... Quarantined... But still on his throne... I mean in office..... Working from home supposedly.. Lets see if he serves the full 2 weeks quarantine... Taking bets he will get a doctor to give permission to get out early for something he feels important..
What in the world was his wife doing in the UK making "speeches" for ??
Trump has stopped travel from a lot of places, except the UK.. I'm sure there will be a scramble of people getting flights to the UK so they can fly to North America.. The UK seems the source of a lot of cases that are showing up now. On another forum a guy from OZ is to travel to Georgia state US to meet a girl friend.. Hope he can get the trip made OK..
We just got an email from our doctor.. If you are not feeling well, call first.. Don't come in without us knowing this and potentially exposing the staff, and everyone in the waiting room unnecessarily.
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Post by captain on Mar 13, 2020 18:55:48 GMT 10
Yep - its time for me. Bugging in now at my urban fortress. Got about 4-5 months of food here and various other goodies. If I run short then I go online. But the family and I ( including 6 month old Bub) are hankering down now.
I may go for a walk in my local suburb at various times, but not near people and not touching anything. Just to do a recon to see what is happening in my local area - but no shopping trips, no groups - nothing that my city offers me. Just me, the family in our place until we feel safe to rejoin society.
One thing - I have a 1 week old new car sitting in the garage. Gotta use that every now and then but only to drive on the roads.
This is the second time this year that my preparation plans have been activated. Interesting times.
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Post by frontsight on Mar 13, 2020 19:27:24 GMT 10
Community transmission occurring in Victoria now, that was my cue to go into social isolation mode. It's prob a bit early for some but I have my elderly parents here and they aren't in good health. Anything else I need from this point will come via internet shopping and home delivery. I feel your pain mate, got elderly parents too. I am being super careful now
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Post by pugs on Mar 13, 2020 19:51:13 GMT 10
Been a discussion with the mrs and I and worse case we can use my long service which is 3 months pay to lay low and still keep the bank covered at the minimum amount seeing as we’re way in front and a semi rural location means we can keep busy too without going nuts ....hopefully
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Post by australia on Mar 13, 2020 21:09:55 GMT 10
Put it this way , if this doesn't hit the fan it'll teach us experience for next time ,
Showing us how the public were and what steps the gov is capable of so to speak
As an mental health worker I'm on edge , and so are everyone one around me ,
I feel the sudden onset of wide histerica coming soon.
Tense times.
Take care all
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Post by blueshoes on Mar 13, 2020 22:41:18 GMT 10
I'm finding it hard to just say "Let's just lay low" as SO hasn't been told to work from home yet by his company - so he's going to catch the intercity train into a big office in town on Monday at this stage, and we get to cross our fingers he hasn't brought a bug home with him already...
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Post by fei on Mar 14, 2020 1:32:37 GMT 10
Community transmission occurring in Victoria now, that was my cue to go into social isolation mode. It's prob a bit early for some but I have my elderly parents here and they aren't in good health. Anything else I need from this point will come via internet shopping and home delivery. I feel your pain mate, got elderly parents too. I am being super careful now I'm in the same boat. In China, but not worried about catching the virus myself. Now with transmission in Aus, worried about elderly parents and relatives, especially one in a nursing home. The home seems pretty well run, haven't had any illnesses before, however staff are all casual workers, so probably don't want to be missing any shifts, even if feeling a bit sick.
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