Post by remnantprep on Sept 13, 2017 19:12:20 GMT 10
I really like that term Steampunk Apathetic Agnostic. I dont believe any one knows some divine truth that others don't, my point is that this is exactly what people like Dawkins and atheists do all the time to people of faith. Their faith is science the belief in man and his knowledge. I just believe in something greater than myself because I dont know all the questions to the meaning of Life the Universe and everything because apparently the answer is 42!! Token was just offering his view on how to approach the subject that was posted about. I just see the same evidence we all have and have determined a different answer to that evidence.
Post by remnantprep on Sept 13, 2017 18:37:46 GMT 10
Those types of conversations can be great fun Frostbite, I used to have those with my father, we learn a lot from others in doing it respectfully. As for you being an angel God works in mysterious ways! lol
Id befriend him for a while. Preach the Gospel to him here and there if he was interested, and ask him if he wanted to catch up now and then and maybe go for a shoot or do something together. Some folk ive found are stuck, but want to get out, just need to help with pulling a rope and inch a month or so to help them along.
FFS don't get him started on the God delusion 😂 For starters I would invite him over for dinner every now and then and genuinely ask about his well being and encourag him seems to work .
Um I would really like to know who decided one day that believing in God was a delusion? I see people parrot this statement so often without ever having investigated the evidence for them selves! A belief in God can come from a very deep and personal experience that can change your life.
"I think the effect of all religious faith is negative... I think that faith teaches you to believe something without evidence, and that shuts your mind off... As a scientist and as an educator, I'm against the idea of faith -- the idea that you believe something simply because you believe it." Dawkins
Dawkins reveals himself as someone who believes he has the answers to life and so has decided that those who have faith are deluded in some way. I believe not because I simply want to believe but because I have interpreted the evidence of God a certain way. That does not make me deluded at all just because Dawkins and those that follow him religiously believe there is no evidence for God. I always wonder what evidence they want.
Maybe thats just what the man in this scenario needs, to stop thinking he is the centre of the universe and look outside of himself to something greater than his little world. A practise we all need to do from time to time.
Post by remnantprep on Sept 7, 2017 15:39:20 GMT 10
Interesting, I have been watching a fair bit of Jordan since you told me about him Shiney.When our assumptions and expectations of others are not met by them this can cause conflict between us, this is what I got from the video.
Post by remnantprep on Sept 7, 2017 15:28:38 GMT 10
One of the best pieces of wisdom I heard on bringing up children within a family context is, "Certain rights come with responsibility!" Other than your basic needs for food, shelter and clothing (as a child) you have no rights unless you are prepared to partake in family responsibilities. Many don't learn this as a child. As an Adult there is a verse from the Bible, 2 Thessalonians 3, (the Message bible) that states:
6-9 Our orders—backed up by the Master, Jesus—are to refuse to have anything to do with those among you who are lazy and refuse to work the way we taught you. Don’t permit them to freeload on the rest. We showed you how to pull your weight when we were with you, so get on with it. We didn’t sit around on our hands expecting others to take care of us. In fact, we worked our fingers to the bone, up half the night moonlighting so you wouldn’t be burdened with taking care of us. And it wasn’t because we didn’t have a right to your support; we did. We simply wanted to provide an example of diligence, hoping it would prove contagious.
10-13 Don’t you remember the rule we had when we lived with you? “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” And now we’re getting reports that a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings are taking advantage of you. This must not be tolerated. We command them to get to work immediately—no excuses, no arguments—and earn their own keep. Friends, don’t slack off in doing your duty.
14-15 If anyone refuses to obey our clear command written in this letter, don’t let him get by with it. Point out such a person and refuse to subsidise his freeloading. Maybe then he’ll think twice. But don’t treat him as an enemy. Sit him down and talk about the problem as someone who cares.
So some thoughts.
1) The person has not learnt good habits. 2) There is no order in their life. 3) Has not had clear boundaries set as a child. 4) Possible mental illness and narcism. 5) Depression is not laziness, it can be a very debilitating thing to experience. Sometimes people go through so many life traumas that pile up on each other that they end up not coping with doing anything else but trying to survive what they are experiencing.
Post by remnantprep on Sept 2, 2017 22:08:51 GMT 10
Um I just use a fondue set with the stand and a little meth burner, have a couple side by side and you can heat up stuff. I have boiled water on it and then put that in a thermos for later use. Works well but just have to store up Methylated spirits.