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Post by remnantprep on May 14, 2018 21:09:56 GMT 10
My daughter and her hubby are currently cycling around Europe on a Tandem bike. This is their first Youtube Video of their trip and I wanted to share it as it is a good example of how little gear you need. Although they are not in a SHTF situation so food and water is not so hard to come by the gear they have is interesting!
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Post by remnantprep on May 9, 2018 12:07:38 GMT 10
I live in a regional town and I guess after a few days it would be known that there had been a cyber attack so I guess people here would react the same way as elsewhere, most likely in annoyance leading to frustration and anger. Our landline phones should still work, so I would simply ring family in other places to see if it is more widespread or local. I would try and observe how others are acting, if suddenly everyones mobiles are not working that I am sure would be noticeable. I would top up on water and would avoid the supermarkets but rather go to those cheap stores to get more supplies. I would buy a heap of batteries and any Methylated spirits etc for cooking with and those cheap stores have food as well.
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Post by remnantprep on May 8, 2018 19:40:56 GMT 10
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Post by remnantprep on May 4, 2018 20:49:09 GMT 10
Hey Rem cool scenario. Thanks for posting that one. Thanks also for posting a conclusion/outcome to it. Very worthwhile. Im glad you have enjoyed it! Gets us thinking and this one was about what risk you would take! I will post more as I read other books but if anyone wishes to do a similar thing then feel free. Don't give all the info away at first.
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Post by remnantprep on May 4, 2018 20:47:12 GMT 10
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Post by remnantprep on May 4, 2018 18:31:55 GMT 10
Stretcher is what they end up doing in the book!! The main leader of the group took a week to go and find fuel on a very limited amount of food. He finds a small town and is searching through houses for fuel. He hears some voices which get louder as he approaches. He secretly observes them and sees that they are about to hang some people, he keeps searching for a while and then realises the crowd is about to move off. He ends up finding a car with a small amount of fuel so he grabs that but just as he is finishing he gets caught. He runs for it while being chased and is confronted further on by a guy with a gun. This guy tells him that the other town folk have been hanging people so they can eat them and he wants to shoot our leader so its one more person before his family. Our leader manages to get away and has to travel back to the group. So they have a little fuel on which they can travel maybe another 64 kms. When the car stops again they end up making a stretcher for the wounded mum and taking in turns to carry her they travel on to their next destination.
So your choice to not look for fuel was a good one! I think they should have just rested for a few days and then made a stretcher and not gone looking for fuel.
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Post by remnantprep on May 1, 2018 21:00:26 GMT 10
Good answer but there is not enough food supply to keep you all sustained. It will take her at a few weeks to recover. Is there a way you can get going quicker, after a few days rest?
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Post by remnantprep on May 1, 2018 10:02:32 GMT 10
I look back on my holiday with my children as so precious, if things go to crap they may not get back here! These moments we can reflect on, and while we may be sad that its something we may never get to do again we can also rejoice that we had the chance now to do these things! I love all the responses, what great memories. I encourage all to also enjoy those small things as well, like fluffy socks and colouring pencils, or just a walk with your kids exploring! Put those fluffy socks on and feel the warmth and the softness, buy the biggest pack of colouring in pencils and enjoy watching your kids create with all the colors! Ring up a friend or family member and enjoy the sound of their voices and discuss those good memories with them, "Hey remember this time we had together, it will keep me going in the worst of times!" Would love to hear some more form you all. What small things, like craft beer and scented soaps, would you like to appreciate now?
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Post by remnantprep on May 1, 2018 9:55:15 GMT 10
All good Wolf. I should have made it clearer but yes it was not going to be a permanent camp. The question is asking "Do you leave members of your close knit group to go and find something you need but has a risk! Leaving them without you is also risky to them.
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 30, 2018 23:21:15 GMT 10
Scenario - you have been... with others whom you have met along the way: a youngish woman (you rescued from her apartment when some thugs broke in and tried to attack her), Mrs Pete wants to know why I was in a young woman's apartment to start with. Yup, I'll be sleeping on the couch again... Lol, funny, you weren't in her apartment, you lived next door and heard her screaming but felt bad as your original plan was to flee and not help anyone.
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 30, 2018 23:18:46 GMT 10
Option 2, you've already bugged out, right now you are in safe place and have all you need. Not enough food sources.
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 30, 2018 23:17:03 GMT 10
Where exactly is this group heading for ultimately? If they don't have an actual 'safe haven' destination they may as well all stay put. Not a lot of point in fleeing to 'places unknown' is there? Whats the point of trying to get fuel? Even if you get some then what? Where are they driving to? Does driving a vehicle make them more of a target for armed gangs further up the road? Better to move on foot at night? Maybe the group can bushwhack a subsequent group of chumps fleeing along the nearby road to source additional food and possibly weapons? Then there's the nature of the womans injury: is it a near certainty she'll recover? Or is it a bit iffy? Does the wounded mum prefer it if you abandon her and get her kids to safety? They are a tight knit group, the fuel is because the wounded one can't walk, she will recover but it will take some time. They are headed somewhere but have no idea what awaits them. No she will not abandon them and has great hunting and firearms skills. Love the questions.
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 30, 2018 17:29:48 GMT 10
Leaving is not an option sorry! lol
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 30, 2018 12:06:28 GMT 10
You were finally able to trade for that small item you have been wanting (it can be a roll of loo paper, a small soap, a couple of batteries, a candle etc) do you use it straight away or save it up for later? What item is it?
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 30, 2018 11:54:47 GMT 10
Scenario - you have been fleeing from a major city or town and trying to get away as far as possible you are travelling with others whom you have met along the way: a youngish woman (you rescued from her apartment when some thugs broke in and tried to attack her), a middle aged single mother (this lady is very independent and great with firearms) with 2 teenage children, a boy of 17 and a girl of 15. You have encountered many dangers along the way that you have overcome but you are now tired and low on food. Fuel you have been able to find on the way is now getting low, You were captured by a group who are situated in an out of the way compound, (they stole most of the ammunition for the weapons you had) but were able to escape, although the single gun toting mother was shot in the back while trying to protect her kids. She is alive but very weak, and you take of in your vehicle with all. You drive at a furious pace to get away as quickly as possible and eventually find you are not so sure where you are. The car runs out of fuel right near a wooded area, you have a wounded woman in the car and her teen daughter is very anxious about her mum. The young woman is someone you have been able to rely on as she has learnt quickly how to survive. You push the car into the woods to hide it from the main road, it is night so you set up a camp site In the morning you need to make a decision, you know you can't move the wounded mother who is laying in the car tummy down, you have antibiotics to give her which will help with any infections. The teenage boy has also become confident with a firearm and in fact so has the teen girl but she is really upset about her mum and is being a little difficult. You have no fuel for the car and where you are camped has maybe a few small animals to trap and possibly some mushrooms (or other food item depending on the area you are in). There is a good water source nearby. You have maybe 3 handguns with limited ammo. Decision - Option 1) You tell everyone you are going to find a fuel source. The closest source is a weeks journey by foot (you don't know this when you set out), and you don't have very much food and must take one of the handguns with you! You have no idea what you will face when you get to it! Option 2) You decide to stay with the others and camp out until the mother is strong enough to walk for a bit. This can take a couple of weeks and she needs extra food to help her get stronger.
DO you stay or go? NB- This scenario I have taken from a book about an EMP I have been reading!
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 30, 2018 11:23:37 GMT 10
What luxury item, activity or experience (does not have to be expensive but would be a luxury for you) would you like to or have had in the last 5 years that would be a good memory to focus on during SHTF? This is good for mental health. For sometime I had a deep desire to get my older children back from the UK for a bit of a holiday back home. Well we were able to achieve this and we had such a lovely time together that it has created a great memory for us. Even if its not something we will do again it will be one of those things we look back on and say I am so glad we did that! Another thing I would like to do is get a collection of lovely scented soaps and just enjoy them now in hot showers. AS winter is upon us, I love my fluffy socks and slippers, so I would like to buy a stack of fun fluffy socks.
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 29, 2018 11:16:32 GMT 10
What would be more evil, killing someone who is trying to take your things, or allowing them to steal from the innocents in your family, your children who may slowly starve because you did nothing? This is only one scenario many more to ponder though! Can we define evil and good in a SHTF? How would you define innocence in a SHTF? I feel that one reason why we prepare is so that we don't have to go out and take form others, BUT if they try to take from you then for sure you have every right to protect yourself.
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 13, 2018 17:07:02 GMT 10
Hubby is a Geo in the mines, the other day I heard him offloading form the Ute and went out to have a look. He had bought some core home from the drill rigs, really large heavy pieces. They are going to be garden edging. We have also used the outside of an old washing machine as a compost bin! haha it must be a geo thing! my old man was a geo and we have drill cores for book ends and drill bits for door stoppers! those old sample bags were very tough and light, i used to use them for a whole range of things as a kid, it's too bad i've used them all up. Yes and the rocks and minerals all over the house and in the yard lol annn yessss the drill bits we keep coins in some of ours lol
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 12, 2018 11:32:03 GMT 10
Hubby is a Geo in the mines, the other day I heard him offloading form the Ute and went out to have a look. He had bought some core home from the drill rigs, really large heavy pieces. They are going to be garden edging. We have also used the outside of an old washing machine as a compost bin!
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Post by remnantprep on Apr 12, 2018 11:23:53 GMT 10
For a business minded prepper it could even be profitable ... a stockpile of the right kind of consumer goods made in China or elsewhere using Chinese components may be worth plenty of coin in a full blown embargo/blockade if it should ever come to that. Dry cell batteries, razors, hair products, tooth paste, detergents, insecticides ... there must be plenty of consumables that would become scarce and exy. Hit up those cheap stores with mass Chinese products!
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