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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 18, 2016 22:28:41 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 18, 2016 22:31:08 GMT 10
You have a 56% chance of surviving doomsday! You will survive 4-6 months.
I beg to differ!!!!!
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Post by Peter on Apr 18, 2016 22:37:07 GMT 10
I'm at 58%, surviving 4-6 months. At least I beat SA Hunter by a couple of percent...
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Post by shinester on Apr 18, 2016 23:23:15 GMT 10
You have a 56% chance of surviving doomsday! You will survive 4-6 months. I beg to differ!!!!! I concur. A better, though not perfect one would be the Doomsday Prepper scoring to which I got 54. HERE It does give you some general ideas of areas you might improve. The 'best' version I've seen is the actually the one used in the show as detailed by the guy who scored it, Southernprepper1 .. to which I used 3 years ago and found to be very useful as it better illustrates nuances in your preparing plan and he explains the scoring, and I'm glad I went over it again now, I think I was about 20 last time. It also differs from the website version and I scored 61 here. Areas of focus I want to give more attention from this survey were; - better home security - need more water stored, work towards 90 days. - growing more food right now. - cooking fuel storage. I could do with a few more bottles of propane and a ring burner I could use in the kitchen [on the stove] rather than just a BBQ. I also have the ability to use the microwave and the requirements were detailed in another post. Oddly enough, all except for the water were works in progress. Good to get an extra bit of oomph for them.
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Post by graynomad on Apr 19, 2016 11:51:36 GMT 10
49% hmmm, apart from no medical experience/supplies and only 2-5 people I thought I should do better.
Is this a crock or a wake up call? No way of knowing unless they explain the reasons for your score. But FB is even better squared away than me and he got 50%, so my money is on a crock.
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Post by shinester on Apr 19, 2016 12:14:06 GMT 10
Mostly crock. The problem with most of these is that you may already have contingencies from problems that would work fine and the specific contingencies that someone chooses aren't the only way of solving that problem. If you look at the top answers you see all of 'their' choices for solution finding. They are certainly not the only solutions and we ought to have options.
What if you don't have extensive medical training but 3 of your friends do? Same goes for military training. Is a bunker necessary, I like the idea though they're also a death trap if someone knows you're there, so concealment [them not knowing you're there] and lack of entry might be more what's sort as a solution.
Looking at how you solve various problems that might come up with what you or your group have seems to me to be more prudent a 'quiz'. I do like the southernprepper1 quiz as it has some leeway for contingencies and it does highlight areas you could give a little more focus to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 19:04:59 GMT 10
74% giving me 6-12 months survival... I would have to be totally over run or severely injured to only last 6-12 months. We could do that with the pantry and supplies on hand with out using stored... But like dummies, we all took the test... Serves us right...
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 19, 2016 22:43:58 GMT 10
Well, it did make you think ( yes, you passed MY test ), and it made you self evaluate against a survey anyone could cut/paste off the internet!!!!!
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Post by shinester on Apr 20, 2016 17:21:10 GMT 10
I gave some of the questions a poke.
3. How much water do you have stored. - Don't you want to store water '&' have an unlimited source, be it rain/river/pond. 4. Do you have methods of purifying water? - I would think having multiple methods are better than just the 'best', what if that best fails. 5. How much long lasting food do you have stored? - Under what situation could you possible need 10 years of food storage per person? - what is the quality of the food, you could have 200kg of sugar which is enough kilojoules for a year but you would die from malnutrition/deficiency diseases living on it. 6. Do you have ways to get food. - I would think having some hunting/farming/trading would be the best plan. 7. Do you have a people to help you? - what is the quality of the people you have to help? If you have 20 invalids in your group and you're the only able body person, you're screwed 8. Do you own guns? - it would depend on the situation, though if you have no guns and things are really bad, you might last a very short time - how many people behind said guns do you have, how well can they use them, to me this is a bigger equation than the type alone. This account from WW1 about British Enfields early in the war is telling,
9. How much ammo do you have? - how much do you really need. If most firefights use about 30 rounds in the military, how many firefights would you survive? I do agree that having too much is far better than not enough, though my main position here is you're not going to survive many firefights. 10. Do you have a bug out bag? - A bug out bag gets you out of situations in the short term. It's not going to add more than a few days to your survival. Heck it might be better if you run with nothing and move faster evading whatever caused you to leave. - Where do you bug out to? If you have no where to go to, your survival duration is short. It might be better to not bother if you haven't got a BOB and just fight to the bitter end for you know it will end because you have no way out. Su - Whilst I agree that BOBs are a good idea, the idea that a BOB has to be good or what have you depends. If you never use it, it won't make a difference to your survival. If you have a great BOL not too far away, leaving with nothing might be perfect as you're quicker. In my own gear, I have a mini BOB with the light basics so I can go further faster, if the situation dictated that as a better choice. To simply say it's a factor in survival makes no sense, particularly if you have no 11. Do you have a bug out vehicle. - if you have to bug out, things are rather bad, again, no point having one if you don't have a place to take it. 12. Do you have a way to power this vehicle. - really? How much fuel do you need exactly would depend on how far you have to go more than anything. If I have to bug out and the bug out again, ... things are super duper bad and chances of survival are starting to look slim. - I can see how a source of fuel might benefit transport, but since gasifiers take 15-30mins to get going, it's not a good choice in bugging out in an emergency. 13. Can you generate power. - is it life sustaining? Nope. - it could be argued that having some comms 'is' for security, to which I agree. - power means reduced labor costs, aka more productivity on machines. 14. Do you have medical supplies and knowledge on how to use them. - how often do you get sick enough that it will kill you without medical attention? [Not once for me] - sure in an austere environment, having 'access' to medical people might be essential and it might not be, it's not essential. It's certainly a good idea to have supplies and knowledge just in case. - prevention, such as good diet, avoiding risky behavior [firefights] and hygiene [water sources being safe especially] will mitigate most medical situations. - does it have to be you, what about someone in your group? 15. How secure is your house. Not sure if they mean 'multi level' means a security system for your home that has different layers. I'm doubting it's 'multi layered' that is having layers in the space of concentric rings which is more important. For instance if you're defending from your doorstep, it's already too late. How secure is your surrounding area is a 'far' better question. How good your security perimeter is? How much mutual support do you have with your neighbors? Is your street defensible. Are you out of the city? Whilst having some means of slowing down incursion into the home is important, it pails in comparison to stopping people getting into the area in the first place. 16. Do you have a bunker/ shelter? It would depend on the situation, though what difference would the level of shelter actually have. More over, bunkers are potential tombs, someone can seal you in if they know about it. 18. How are your survival skills. If we're talking making fire from sticks, then I have some queries as to it's necessity, I'd rather use the resources available in the urban landscape and having items that allow me to work within the 18th-21st century, not the stone age, there's tons lying around. Needing such skills means you're not prepared in my eyes, I'm not planning to bug out to the forest without resources in a cache or something, that would be stupid and not good for survival. I do respect those who can, I just question it's necessity. 19. Do you have medical training. Didn't we already do this with medical supplies. 21. Do you have battle gear. (Body armor, night vision, Etc) Maybe. Hopefully we're in a place and situation that doesn't require it. These things are combat multipliers, that is make each person worth a little more. You can also have more people.
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Post by Peter on Apr 20, 2016 18:22:14 GMT 10
I agree 100% with shinester.
Preparing isn't about yes/no or multiple choice answers to basic questions; there are so many variations that we'll never be able to fully prepare for all of them.
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Post by Morgo on Apr 20, 2016 18:55:17 GMT 10
You have a 53% chance of surviving doomsday! You will survive 4-6 months. Guess I don't need to worry about rationing then, those 4-6 months are going to be one hell of a party!
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Post by krull68 on Apr 21, 2016 17:53:19 GMT 10
82% 6-12 months.
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Post by tyburn on Apr 25, 2016 10:47:35 GMT 10
Hm, guess I should stop prepping and accept defeat, as I got 17% (1 - 2 months). I wonder how much higher it would've been if I said I had guns or a bunker though?
Also interesting that the only question you could choose "all of the above" was the one about guns. Several of the others, such as the one about water (ie. could only choose iodine tablets or filter or know how to make a filter etc) should have the same option to be realistic.
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Post by shinester on Apr 25, 2016 15:57:36 GMT 10
.. agreed on 'all of the above', wasn't much scope in there. I get that having guns in China might be tricky [assuming you're still there], I do also assume you've got other weapons 'as ornaments' of course.
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Post by tyburn on Apr 26, 2016 10:54:52 GMT 10
Yes, plenty of "ornaments" - three samurai swords, couple of cleavers, lots of stakes and bamboo poles I use around my small garden and a variety of other small knives and other nasty implements.
I do wonder how many people have a bunker though? I would imagine building one in Aus would get the attention of plod, unless you could explain it away as a bushfire bunker.
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