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Post by SA Hunter on Jan 1, 2019 16:28:35 GMT 10
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Post by fei on Jan 1, 2019 22:54:52 GMT 10
One thing to remember is that these comments are often made by people, much like this "rear admiral", who don't have any military experience. Whenever you hear about China's 3-million strong army, keep in mind that a lot are clerks, bottle washers and assorted civilians with military titles, but who likely have never fired a weapon in their life. These range from guys like this admiral - an academic at a think tank, through to singers employed to entertain the troops and top officials.
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Post by Pion on Jan 2, 2019 1:45:29 GMT 10
Hmmm possibly...but 3 million blind men armed with air rifles would still hurt...
And still probably overwelm Anzac combined...
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Post by jonasparker on Jan 2, 2019 2:16:28 GMT 10
Sink a US carrier and Bejing would be a glowing glass parking lot within the hour.
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Post by spatial on Jan 2, 2019 18:28:54 GMT 10
China has some hypersonic weapons that could potentially sink a U S carrier. US carriers have a lot of support ships including nuclear powered and armed subs. To take our a carrier group is another thing, never mind 2 groups at the same time.
One bomb on tbe three gorges dam and China will be severely crippled
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Post by Joey on Jan 2, 2019 19:34:37 GMT 10
Sink a US carrier and Bejing would be a glowing glass parking lot within the hour. I heard something back just after 9/11 that if the terrorists had attacked something more significant like the statue of liberty or the George Washington monument, that they would of just dropped the bomb on Afghanistan from the beginning rather then send in ground troops.
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Post by jonasparker on Jan 3, 2019 5:32:51 GMT 10
Sink a US carrier and Bejing would be a glowing glass parking lot within the hour. I heard something back just after 9/11 that if the terrorists had attacked something more significant like the statue of liberty or the George Washington monument, that they would of just dropped the bomb on Afghanistan from the beginning rather then send in ground troops. If the terrorists had attacked something more strategic, like our oil refineries, or the bridges across the Mississippi River, they would have been obliterated, and we would have been in a world of hurt!
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Post by Pion on Jan 3, 2019 13:52:44 GMT 10
Exactly my dear Watson...or power infrastructure i.e. a nuclear plant with a 727 parked in its side would have been shit street...
For all its emotive statement (and the Towers event never cease to choke me up) all the mad Mullahs did was tip their hand and show the world that true religious / nationalistic extremism is rubbish and requires 'the purge'...
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Post by spinifex on Jan 4, 2019 9:13:15 GMT 10
It's lucky that terrorists are such an unimaginitive bunch. There are so many ways to REALLY harm a western economy/society.
Hell ... more people would be traumatized if they hacked and crashed Snapchat or Facebook and took them out of circulation for a few weeks.
(For the record I 'liked' the article being put up ... not the concept of sinking a couple of Carriers. That would be about 12 000 casualties stright up.)
The US (if its leadership is sane) wouldn't nuke a chinese city if that happened. They know the Chinese will nuke back and the Russians will join in on Chinas side. They should hit military targets (like the man made islands) or risk outing themselves as war criminals by striking civilian targets with weapons of mass destruction.
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Post by Pion on Jan 4, 2019 9:37:43 GMT 10
Correct...nukes by nature are defensive and an understanding of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) doctorine is how all nuclear nations currently work...wikipedia actually has a good breakdown of it...
A carrier lost would be tragic but not without precedent (3000 on D Day to the US alone) and would certainly be a precursor for a full out war but not nuclear...no winners said Mr Kennedy and that has not changed...
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Post by norseman on Jan 4, 2019 11:22:18 GMT 10
It's lucky that terrorists are such an unimaginitive bunch. There are so many ways to REALLY harm a western economy/society. Hell ... more people would be traumatized if they hacked and crashed Snapchat or Facebook and took them out of circulation for a few weeks. (For the record I 'liked' the article being put up ... not the concept of sinking a couple of Carriers. That would be about 12 000 casualties stright up.) The US (if its leadership is sane) wouldn't nuke a chinese city if that happened. They know the Chinese will nuke back and the Russians will join in on Chinas side. They should hit military targets (like the man made islands) or risk outing themselves as war criminals by striking civilian targets with weapons of mass destruction. "unimaginitive bunch" Islamic terrorists are for the most part full on dumb****s! Still very dangerous but most seriously a bunch of dumb****s! We are not talking Carlos The Jackal brilliance here boys and girls more like 55 level IQ and year 8 graduation from Punchbowl Boys High School!
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Post by fei on Jan 4, 2019 14:14:28 GMT 10
It's lucky that terrorists are such an unimaginitive bunch. There are so many ways to REALLY harm a western economy/society. Hell ... more people would be traumatized if they hacked and crashed Snapchat or Facebook and took them out of circulation for a few weeks. (For the record I 'liked' the article being put up ... not the concept of sinking a couple of Carriers. That would be about 12 000 casualties stright up.) The US (if its leadership is sane) wouldn't nuke a chinese city if that happened. They know the Chinese will nuke back and the Russians will join in on Chinas side. They should hit military targets (like the man made islands) or risk outing themselves as war criminals by striking civilian targets with weapons of mass destruction. "unimaginitive bunch" Islamic terrorists are for the most part full on dumb****s! Still very dangerous but most seriously a bunch of dumb****s! We are not talking Carlos The Jackal brilliance here boys and girls more like 55 level IQ and year 8 graduation from Punchbowl Boys High School! Supposedly a bunch of ISIS veterans have recently turned up in Ukraine, working with the neo-nazi battalion fighting the Russians. Will be interesting to see how that combination of people who usually hate each other will work out in the field.
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Post by spinifex on Jan 4, 2019 14:30:14 GMT 10
"unimaginitive bunch" Islamic terrorists are for the most part full on dumb****s! Still very dangerous but most seriously a bunch of dumb****s! We are not talking Carlos The Jackal brilliance here boys and girls more like 55 level IQ and year 8 graduation from Punchbowl Boys High School! Supposedly a bunch of ISIS veterans have recently turned up in Ukraine, working with the neo-nazi battalion fighting the Russians. Will be interesting to see how that combination of people who usually hate each other will work out in the field. ! I think I collapsed a lung from laughing. I really do love premium grade irony.
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