There was a lot of great comments in there like these beauties:
How about a bit of information and surveillance at a more basic level - like Covid 19 riddled cruise ships.
"That's a problem for me because ... as societies, especially democratic societies, we understand we operate within the rule of law."
Except of course, for ASIO (hotel invasions) and ASIS (Timor Leste).
When ASIO stops being used as a political tool by Dutton and Pezzullo, then come and talk to us. Meanwhile, so long as the charges against the 2 ABC journos are standing, I don’t believe ASIO is using its existing powers ethically..
We are always less safe according to ASIO. Does it mean ASIO is not doing its job?
"...and we've seen increased chatter in the online world when it comes to the spread of extremist ideology attempting to radicalise people," Mr Burgess said."
So go and arrest and charge them. You already have the power to do it.
Child porn and serious crime are always rolled out as the excuse for more powers, unfortunately these powers then get used to find whistle blowers, petty centrelink issues and a host of other minor crimes not worthy of this intrusion.
No. Perhaps I'd trust them a little more about their professed motives if they didn't use this information to gaol journalists reporting in the public interest and whistleblowers risking it all to bring to light the illegal doings of government.
So far the existing legislation has been used to target domestic Journalists and Whistleblowers more often than terrorist threats
He would not have a clue. After all ASIO were happy for a very secure line to be sold to the Chinese. yet another example of asleep at the wheel.
Journalists get raided by AFP. Government orders raids on political opponents. Whistleblowers prosecuted.
Why is there scepticism about the over-reach of government agencies?
You tell me Mike Burgess.
How did ASIO (et al) go with telling us what was happening in Wuhan in December?
The only radicalisation they might be concerned about that is happening on line while ordinary people are at home, is the cibyer chat about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and how wasteful government is with their taxpayer dollars and how government rorts to stay in power.
How about Morrison, Dutton and Porter come clean with us and tell us exactly how much power they want, and take it to an election?
I am sick of intrusion by degrees with new surveillance laws snuck through at an alarming rate with this little pearler being one of the more recent ones.
www.smh.com.au/national/new-asio-law-one-more-step-towards-a-totalitarian-state-20200513-p54smi.htmlThe power to hold a 14 year old without legal representation is obscene.
Was anyone else gobsmacked at this:
"...and we've seen increased chatter in the online world when it comes to the spread of extremist ideology attempting to radicalise people," Mr Burgess said."
What are they referring to? Anti-Trump sentiment? Or, is it Black Lives Matter?
How to build an empire. All this sophistication, yet there was cruise ship-blindness and flights from the US were allowed unsupervised for far too long. Both threats to national security.
"National security" is the flag waved when politicians and "security" bureaucrats want more power and more money. This flag has absolutely nothing to do with the security of Australia, and everything to do with the security of our politicians and senior bureaucrats.
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I’ve reproduced then here for convenience and as they may disappear.
There is also the secret trials and secret sentencing of Witness J.
Witness K was Timor-Leste.