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Post by cindy on Oct 12, 2020 12:45:05 GMT 10
MSF also are notorious for using Chuggers for fundraising. There have been numerous investigations on chugging organisations. In a nutshell, the owners make an absolute killing by hiring backpackers to solicit donations from pedestrians. They are paid collectors, not volunteers. The cut they take is astounding. The backpacker gets around 10%, the owner and coprorate structure takes around 80%, leaving almost nothing for the charity. What is particularly deceptive are the claims that 'all funds go to the charity'. This is notionally true. 100% of your money goes to the charity. The chugging company then sends an invoice to the organisation for fundraising fees. As a rule it is 95% of the first years donation, 50% of the second and 25% of the third year. As most people end their monthly donation within the first year, the charity generally gets very little. Most of your money goes to a rich piece of sheet who lives in Sydney. Its the same for those Lions Club etc mints they sell for a dollar at the banks etc. My brother contacted them to see how he could help out by getting some for sale at his business, but decided against it when the rep straight out bragged about how much commission he got for every unit sold. As it turns out, the charity only got something like 6c in every dollar. Shocking, I wonder is there any charity that's not shonky?
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Post by bug on Oct 12, 2020 12:47:05 GMT 10
Legacy maybe?
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Post by bce1 on Oct 12, 2020 17:43:59 GMT 10
I was reading an interesting report which a friend at Fonterra (big NZ dairy export company) showed me about shortages and price change between 2020-2030. They made (or someone did for them) a model a couple of years ago looking at world dairy production and cost and it showed a 200-300% increase in demand (and price) due to overseas decline in production and essentially their product became unaffordable for developing countries - big purchasers currently. Which you would have thought had a huge impact alone. They had rerun their model allowing for impacts of COVID and cost increases by 2030 were up to 400%. I don’t know much about the food industry but it looked bloody scary to me. I wouldn’t die or go bankrupt if milk / cheese went up by 400% but if all food follows the same trajectory the ramifications are huge.
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Post by cindy on Oct 12, 2020 17:48:48 GMT 10
I was reading an interesting report which a friend at Fonterra (big NZ diary export company) showed me about shortages and price change between 2020-2030. They made (or someone did for them) a model a couple of years ago looking at world diary production and cost and it showed a 200-300% increase in demand (and price) due to overseas decline in production and essentially their product became unaffordable for developing countries - big purchasers currently. Which you would have thought had big ramifications alone. They had rerun their model allowing for impacts of COVID and cost increases by 2030 were up to 400%. I don’t know much about the food industry but it looked bloody scary to me. I wouldn’t die or go bankrupt if milk / cheese went up by 400% but if all food follows the same trajectory the ramifications are huge. Bloody hell! I knew hubby and I felt so strongly that we had to upscale our veg patch etc. So glad we did. We upscaled quite a bit we are now growers for all family members plus have excess. So we can comfortably feed 20 people for all meals for all seasons. It's bloody hard work because only hubby and I do the work but I'm working on the others, they can supply extra canning stuff and help with harvest I reckon.
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Post by bce1 on Oct 12, 2020 18:04:12 GMT 10
Hope you have a Cow !! 🐮
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Post by frostbite on Oct 12, 2020 18:20:23 GMT 10
I might be a hard bugger, but I wouldn't be feeding adults unless they made some sort of contribution. Apart from the two parasite adult step sons, but hopefully they will be homeless in 4 years.
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Post by cindy on Oct 12, 2020 19:37:04 GMT 10
I might be a hard bugger, but I wouldn't be feeding adults unless they made some sort of contribution. Apart from the two parasite adult step sons, but hopefully they will be homeless in 4 years. Tell me about it! The only exception I've made is my 86 year old grandma even with low vision and badly arthritic hands to the point that they are on 90degree angles even she still has her little patch in her backyard ( but she can't do it all and she funded our propagation tent). What can I say it's the nieces in law and their mum who CBF. But hubby feels obligated to help them. If it were up to me I'd say fend for your bloody self or get your ass over here and chip in. But I have said no longer dropping produce off they don't live far, they can come get it themselves. Pisses me right off.
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Post by cindy on Oct 12, 2020 19:39:34 GMT 10
Hahaha you know what I'm so tempted in phoning up my godfather and saying I'll buy a cow off him. Angus cattle too....you beauty! Heck throw in some sheep for wool I'll work it out.
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Post by frostbite on Oct 18, 2020 9:24:26 GMT 10
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Post by kelabar on Oct 18, 2020 9:46:42 GMT 10
Global food shortage? I'm calling fake news on this, It has always been fake news. But pictures of empty shelves and bullshit headlines sell 'clickbait' and advertising. Admit it, you guys can't help yourselves, can you? You have to 'click'. Like tomatoes' link to the SunRice article. "OMG!!! No Aussie rice left!!! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!". Except that we import rice from overseas all the time. And everyone has a heap at home now anyway, way more than they would normally have. And Aussie farmers will grow more if there is more demand and prices increase. So there isn't a problem but "since you are looking this way, now a few words from our advertisers"!
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Post by bug on Oct 18, 2020 9:58:09 GMT 10
Global food shortage? I'm calling fake news on this, It has always been fake news. But pictures of empty shelves and bullshit headlines sell 'clickbait' and advertising. Admit it, you guys can't help yourselves, can you? You have to 'click'. Like tomatoes ' link to the SunRice article. "OMG!!! No Aussie rice left!!! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!". Except that we import rice from overseas all the time. And everyone has a heap at home now anyway, way more than they would normally have. And Aussie farmers will grow more if there is more demand and prices increase. So there isn't a problem but "since you are looking this way, now a few words from our advertisers"! Correct. No better way to boost sales than for your customers to 'hear' that you're about to run out of supply. It's alarmist bullshyte that obscures the legitimate info out there.
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Post by Beno on Oct 18, 2020 15:36:39 GMT 10
Global food shortage? I'm calling fake news on this, It has always been fake news. But pictures of empty shelves and bullshit headlines sell 'clickbait' and advertising. Admit it, you guys can't help yourselves, can you? You have to 'click'. Like tomatoes ' link to the SunRice article. "OMG!!! No Aussie rice left!!! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!". Except that we import rice from overseas all the time. And everyone has a heap at home now anyway, way more than they would normally have. And Aussie farmers will grow more if there is more demand and prices increase. So there isn't a problem but "since you are looking this way, now a few words from our advertisers"! A lot of the farmers in the riverina are not growing rice as it does not pay. Everyone gets pissy with cotton, almonds etc being grown because they think it is a waste of water. Those people have never heard of $ made per megalitre of water used. If you could make 3-5 times the money with the same volume of water you’d go “hell yeah”. This is the case with cotton and other high end crops and why the low end stuff like rice is no longer as profitable an option to grow. when people complain that farmers should be forced to grow more food and not cotton i say “ok as long as you are willing to work for 20% of your normal wage” the looks of confusion are priceless.
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Post by spatial on Oct 21, 2020 19:53:54 GMT 10
www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/food-shortages-hit-china-there-notenough-fresh-food-go-aroundChina is publicly acknowledging a coming food shortage.
But while many have dismissed my claims, I’d like to draw your attention to the fact that China is now publicly acknowledging a coming food shortage. (And as noted in this article, when they admit there’s a problem, it’s a BIG problem. ) In fact, China even has an anti-food-wasting campaign going on across the country right this minute encouraging people to eat half portions or at least make sure to finish their plates. In an October 5, article for the New York Times entitled “China’s mealtime appeal amid food supply worries: Don’t take more than you can eat,” Eva Dou writes, On the surface, China’s campaign to encourage mealtime thrift has been a cheerful affair, with soldiers, factory workers and schoolchildren shown polishing their plates clean of food. But behind the drive is a harsh reality. China does not have enough fresh food to go around — and neither does much of the world. The pandemic and extreme weather have disrupted agricultural supply chains, leaving food prices sharply higher in countries as diverse as Yemen, Sudan, Mexico and South Korea. The United Nations warned in June that the world is on the brink of its worst food crisis in 50 years. “It’s scary and it’s overwhelming,” Arif Husain, chief economist of the United Nations World Food Program, said in an interview. “I don’t think we have seen anything like this ever.”
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Post by SA Hunter on Oct 21, 2020 20:29:58 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Oct 21, 2020 20:32:59 GMT 10
Look at our food supplies - no backpackers and no interstate travel for some - so, who will pick the fruit?? If no one does, then it rots on the trees or the ground. Good time to get the unemployed paid work, but that will upset the do gooders making people work when they don't want to.
If they don't sort it out soon, well expect skyrocketing prices and a shortage of fresh foods in your local supermarkets.
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Post by SA Hunter on Oct 21, 2020 20:38:45 GMT 10
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Post by cindy on Oct 21, 2020 21:35:30 GMT 10
Look at our food supplies - no backpackers and no interstate travel for some - so, who will pick the fruit?? If no one does, then it rots on the trees or the ground. Good time to get the unemployed paid work, but that will upset the do gooders making people work when they don't want to. If they don't sort it out soon, well expect skyrocketing prices and a shortage of fresh foods in your local supermarkets. I have a job but I would love to fruit pick on my days off for some extra money, add it to my rainy day stash. I thought seems how there is jobs out there and no one wants them heck sure I'll apply.....no bites. I haven't tried fruit picking jobs though. I'll see what's out there in the lock down state.
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Post by bug on Oct 22, 2020 7:22:18 GMT 10
www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/food-shortages-hit-china-there-notenough-fresh-food-go-aroundChina is publicly acknowledging a coming food shortage.
But while many have dismissed my claims, I’d like to draw your attention to the fact that China is now publicly acknowledging a coming food shortage. (And as noted in this article, when they admit there’s a problem, it’s a BIG problem. ) In fact, China even has an anti-food-wasting campaign going on across the country right this minute encouraging people to eat half portions or at least make sure to finish their plates. In an October 5, article for the New York Times entitled “China’s mealtime appeal amid food supply worries: Don’t take more than you can eat,” Eva Dou writes, On the surface, China’s campaign to encourage mealtime thrift has been a cheerful affair, with soldiers, factory workers and schoolchildren shown polishing their plates clean of food. But behind the drive is a harsh reality. China does not have enough fresh food to go around — and neither does much of the world. The pandemic and extreme weather have disrupted agricultural supply chains, leaving food prices sharply higher in countries as diverse as Yemen, Sudan, Mexico and South Korea. The United Nations warned in June that the world is on the brink of its worst food crisis in 50 years. “It’s scary and it’s overwhelming,” Arif Husain, chief economist of the United Nations World Food Program, said in an interview. “I don’t think we have seen anything like this ever.” China is notorious for food wastage. The way to 'impress' business clients over there is to order expensive food and too much of it. I found it awkward seeing them do that 'for' us.
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Post by fei on Oct 22, 2020 14:14:42 GMT 10
www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/food-shortages-hit-china-there-notenough-fresh-food-go-aroundChina is publicly acknowledging a coming food shortage.
But while many have dismissed my claims, I’d like to draw your attention to the fact that China is now publicly acknowledging a coming food shortage. (And as noted in this article, when they admit there’s a problem, it’s a BIG problem. ) In fact, China even has an anti-food-wasting campaign going on across the country right this minute encouraging people to eat half portions or at least make sure to finish their plates. In an October 5, article for the New York Times entitled “China’s mealtime appeal amid food supply worries: Don’t take more than you can eat,” Eva Dou writes, On the surface, China’s campaign to encourage mealtime thrift has been a cheerful affair, with soldiers, factory workers and schoolchildren shown polishing their plates clean of food. But behind the drive is a harsh reality. China does not have enough fresh food to go around — and neither does much of the world. The pandemic and extreme weather have disrupted agricultural supply chains, leaving food prices sharply higher in countries as diverse as Yemen, Sudan, Mexico and South Korea. The United Nations warned in June that the world is on the brink of its worst food crisis in 50 years. “It’s scary and it’s overwhelming,” Arif Husain, chief economist of the United Nations World Food Program, said in an interview. “I don’t think we have seen anything like this ever.” China is notorious for food wastage. The way to 'impress' business clients over there is to order expensive food and too much of it. I found it awkward seeing them do that 'for' us. Yep, rule of thumb even among friends (ie. not banquets), is to order Pax+1 (so, if 5 people, then 5 + 1 dishes). The government is now saying Pax-1 is better, but food is relatively cheap, so I don't think it will catch on anytime soon. At banquets, the idea is to impress, so order huge amounts of dishes, preferably the most expensive ones (like protected animal such as seahorses).
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Post by spinifex on Oct 22, 2020 17:25:36 GMT 10
It is too easy to underestimate how fragile the supply of food really is.
It is now disturbingly dependent on a relatively small number of 'global' input suppliers. If international trade starts seriously faltering ... which is on the cards ... Ag productivity will be dropping dramatically for a few years while the supply lines get re-worked.
Part of the reason China specifically may be talking food shortage is that they are making political moves curtailing imports from places like Australia. Barley, beef, wine and various seafoods and no doubt many other items of food produced here are being squeezed out of the Chinese market. They are making their own problem.
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