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Post by Stealth on May 19, 2021 13:23:56 GMT 10
I bet the strongest vegetarian amongst you will be begging for some meat after a few months without sufficient protein. Doubtful, I've been vegetarian for many years and have never once been 'begging for meat'. Not because I wouldn't admit it to myself or anyone (I don't eat meat simply because I feel better when I don't, ethics have nothing to do with it) but for one reason and one reason alone. Dietary education. I don't care if people eat meat. It has absolutely nothing to do with me so I don't care whether people do or not. Some people can tolerate a meal of meat a day. I feel like trash for a few days if I eat meat, so I don't bother. But I DO think that a lot of the food issues that we're going to have are going to see people suffer simply because they believe false ideas like "you can't get enough protein from plants" (simply not true), or "Milk is the only reliable source of calcium" (disproven by science decades ago). And when we face things like food shortages, even on mono-crops, people who don't have any understanding of how to substitute their normal diet with cheaper or more readily available produce are going to suffer. Physically and mentally. Rice and beans will keep you alive, but you'll start to experience a lot of negative effects of nutritional deficiency pretty darn quickly if that's all you eat. Just the same as if all you eat are T-bone steaks. So I put nutrition in the same pile as any other 'required reading' for preppers. Because if all you have is rice and beans but you know where a patch of nettles grows and you have a couple of chooks in your back yard for eggs, you're a million times better off than someone that has no rice and beans, and eats the chooks on the first day and then can't work out why you'd even want to pick stinging nettles!  (And yes, I do miss bacon. Not enough to eat it. Haha). |
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Post by spatial on May 20, 2021 19:15:53 GMT 10
Canadian Pepper having a big rant about the drought thais affecting, Canada, US and 82% of Mexico.
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Post by malewithatail on May 20, 2021 20:01:22 GMT 10
I too have nothing against vegetarians, in fact, my wife is one and we co-exist perfectly. Nor are our kids vegetarians, yet !
You are so right in that someone with a few vegies growing, some chooks and a water tank will be infinitely better off than 99.9% of the sheeples out there.
Add a cow for milk, cheese etc. and a few tins of beans and you will be the one eyed king in the land of the blind.
I'm sure you have noticed just how many fruit trees are growing wild on the road verges, I've seen apples, lemons and orange trees, probably started from seeds chucked out of someone's window whilst driving by. Another source of food that will probably go unnoticed by the hoards as they slowly starve to death.
Even the clover in your yard can be chewed on and your mouth is a terrific extractor of goodness, and yes, there is goodness in grass, and if that's what keeps you alive, then I will be doing it. You are literally making grass tea in your mouth. Not very palatable, but survival is the name of the game here.
GM 2 strokes-still the most efficient engine yet developed to turn fuel into a beautiful noise !
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Post by spinifex on May 21, 2021 8:32:23 GMT 10
Ahhh ... the GM 2 stroke Diesel ... what an invention. They do sound awesome!
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Post by malewithatail on May 21, 2021 14:15:31 GMT 10
At least someone reads my taglines! I try to make everyone of them different when I post.
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Post by feralemma on May 21, 2021 17:53:31 GMT 10
Argentina has blocked the export of beef for the next 30 days in order to bring the price down locally so that Argentinians can afford to buy meat......guess who one of their major importers is? The same country that abruptly blocked the import of Australian beef not long ago in order to try and crash our export beef industry the same way they did our export dairy industry! Expect beef prices to go up locally if they suddenly decide our produce is up to standards again.
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Post by lonewolf on May 21, 2021 22:57:56 GMT 10
At least someone reads my taglines! I try to make everyone of them different when I post. I read them, very clever and funny stuff  |
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Post by lonewolf on May 21, 2021 23:01:55 GMT 10
Ive tried going vegetarian, best i could do was pescatarian (only fish and seafood). Something in my dna needs red and white meat. I could probably do without it for a time, it would be uncomfortable but as long as other decent proteins were on hand it should be a non issue as far as survivalism is concerned.
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Post by peter1942 on May 23, 2021 13:30:26 GMT 10
malewithatail makes a good point about bathroom visits and as far as water goes the idea of flushing after each visit is a no no for us. We have two long drop toilets that reduce wasteful water usage particularly when the family stays.
Living off the grid can make a big difference but like most things the hardware will not last forever.
With water, food and a comfortable house even in times of crisis life can be bearable to pleasant. In times of real crisis I would have no idea how the townies would cope.
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Post by norseman on May 23, 2021 16:10:47 GMT 10
Argentina has blocked the export of beef for the next 30 days in order to bring the price down locally so that Argentinians can afford to buy meat......guess who one of their major importers is? The same country that abruptly blocked the import of Australian beef not long ago in order to try and crash our export beef industry the same way they did our export dairy industry! Expect beef prices to go up locally if they suddenly decide our produce is up to standards again. I love Argentina and I love their beef and their culture! To Argentineans meat is more of a staple than bread, I wish the Australian Politifilth had the guts and brains to block exports and redirect it back to the people at the same wholesale price they are exporting to the foreign cockroaches! |
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Post by malewithatail on May 23, 2021 17:43:36 GMT 10
I agree that our power system, water works, waste disposal, septic systems and so on that we have set up won't last for ever, but, being born again Christians, we believe we only have to survive until Jesus comes again and restores all things. And without Gods help we realize we cant survive anyway.
Love that word, Politifilth...describes them exactly.
Anyone noticed the reduction in size of supplies and the increase in prices ? Its called "shrinkflation". I've noticed that wheatbix are now 1.13 kg, a strange weight, and are definitely smaller in size.
Being in the RFS, I've noticed car accidents and general hurts are up, Covid injection after effects ?? People driving off cliffs, into dams, blacking out in car parks, and so on, very strange behavior happening. Some call these "Vaccidents".
Remember Bill Gates saying in 1981, 640K ought to be enough for anyone ?
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Post by feralemma on May 25, 2021 10:48:58 GMT 10
malewithatail makes a good point about bathroom visits and as far as water goes the idea of flushing after each visit is a no no for us. We have two long drop toilets that reduce wasteful water usage particularly when the family stays. Living off the grid can make a big difference but like most things the hardware will not last forever. With water, food and a comfortable house even in times of crisis life can be bearable to pleasant. In times of real crisis I would have no idea how the townies would cope. Another option for waste disposal (ie not having to use water to flush the dunny) is a burning toilet. Toilet made from half a 44 gallon drum with an appropriate sized hole cut in the lid, and placed onto the ground. Once a day, or as needed, burnable stuff is placed into the toilet and lit up to dispose of all the waste in there. Obviously needs to be a little way from the house! Or the old fashioned toilet pan that pulls out from under the toilet and can be emptied. Maybe into a biogas digester 😉 |
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Post by malewithatail on May 25, 2021 12:57:22 GMT 10
We have a long drop on the visitors quarters as well. Just a deep hole dug with the post hole digger, and with a metal frame around and a piece of tarp as a roof and for privacy. A standard toilet seat on a old chair completes the installation.
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Post by bce1 on May 25, 2021 18:03:57 GMT 10
The medication supply chain is wobbling precariously.
Nothing really in MSM.
We are increasingly having to use alternatives of many common medications.
It isn’t really interfering in business so to speak - but alternatives are substantially reduced.
India is a massive producer of Australasian medications.
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Post by lonewolf on May 26, 2021 0:24:55 GMT 10
The medication supply chain is wobbling precariously. Nothing really in MSM. We are increasingly having to use alternatives of many common medications. It isn’t really interfering in business so to speak - but alternatives are substantially reduced. India is a massive producer of Australasian medications. read inbetween the lines id say. Industry creates scarcity, purpose creates abundance. |
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Post by bushdoc2 on May 26, 2021 20:17:19 GMT 10
The medication supply chain is wobbling precariously. Nothing really in MSM. We are increasingly having to use alternatives of many common medications. It isn’t really interfering in business so to speak - but alternatives are substantially reduced. India is a massive producer of Australasian medications. 1. Agree with BCE1. I've had to make do by swapping patients to other meds because something very common is not available. Imagine if the mechanic said parts for the commodore/falcon were not available? That's kind of what we have. Without hoarding, I'd say talk to your GP, see if any changes are imminent (eg. your blood pressure is stable so stay on same meds/dose....or changes?) and either get some alternatives* or a decent supply if the usual. *Alternatives as in similar product, not stuff form the hippies down the road.
2. "Shrinkflation", notice the weight of a product is now, say, 120gm E? E is a kind of weasel word way of saying, well, kind of average.
In maths, over many years, I have never seen E used as average. X (with bar across the top) is average, not "E". Average also means some things will be above and some below average. Some shops have been caught out, EVERYTHING was below average. (Same shops caught underpaying staff....)
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Post by Stealth on May 30, 2021 17:58:50 GMT 10
The medication supply chain is wobbling precariously. Nothing really in MSM. We are increasingly having to use alternatives of many common medications. It isn’t really interfering in business so to speak - but alternatives are substantially reduced. India is a massive producer of Australasian medications. Thanks for the heads up on this, my other half regularly needs medication that is considered 'common' (asthma preventer/treatment) and when things went tits up at the start of the pandemic that was one of the first things we found difficult to get. It wasn't impossible, but you weren't allowed to buy more than one inhaler at a time where we've always gotten two in a trip. Guess I'll be heading to the pharmacy next week to stock up again. We didn't even notice a blip on our radar last time because I'd stashed a few away just in case. I feel like that's probably a good move. We've got a decent stock of common medications for basic ailments but I'm definitely going to go through and see what needs refreshing now o.O |
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Post by bushdoc2 on May 30, 2021 19:30:38 GMT 10
Depends on the inhaler.
Sometimes you can buy more as a private script (full price).
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Post by Stealth on May 31, 2021 11:48:19 GMT 10
Amusingly I saw an article on news.com.au (yeah yeah, I know, but where else am I going to read about the Kardashians? lmao) about a mother in QLD 'stockpiling'. I had a bit of a giggle at the quote "Unlike panic buying, stockpiling involves building up a supply of essentials slowly by strategically buying items when they are on sale."
I do enjoy that they're trying to avoid the word 'preparing' even though it's literally a prepper pantry that she's created. The more that it's common and mainstream for people to have prepper pantries, the better in my books. The rates of inflation that we're currently experiencing means people are becoming more and more aware of how expensive even the basics are. Even every day folks who'd never consider prepping as a standard seem to be realising that they can't just float on through and expect to be able to get what they need when they need it.
I'm all for it. It makes me happy to see people covering themselves as best they can manage compared to just burying their heads in the sand.
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