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Post by spinifex on Dec 4, 2018 18:12:50 GMT 10
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Post by Joey on Dec 4, 2018 20:33:28 GMT 10
Sooo the police are willing to act on the citizens running amok in protest of petrol prices, but run and hide when the illegal migrants have a country wide chimp out?
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Post by spinifex on Dec 5, 2018 7:06:55 GMT 10
I guess the Police do what they're told by the Guv.
The Guv does what its told by the very rich people with real lobby power.
And hence the question in the title of this thread ... at what point do Police (or military) look at an order and think ... "Nah. Not doing it. We have more in common with the intended targets than we do with the people telling us to smash them."
At this point individuals will be forced to confront their morality.
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Post by spatial on Dec 5, 2018 12:06:35 GMT 10
I have been way watching this, the protest are mostly due high cost of living and stagnation in wages. Same problem across the globe and very much so in Australia. Many of the law enforcement guys also have the same grievances and support the protesters. The need to maintain law and cannot just let Paris burn. The French pres has already made concessions.
What is interesting is that the protests are spreading to other countries. It could be an infliction point that unravels the EU, one never knows when the people decide enough and things unravel. Interesting that it was a climate change tax on fuel that started it all.......
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Post by Joey on Dec 5, 2018 14:40:08 GMT 10
Hasn't France been on the verge of civil war for a while now over the angst about their open borders letting all the illegal refugees flood in. So much to the point that I believe there was a story going that the government was going to instigate the civil war in order to crack down on the illegals running wild and their no-go areas around the cities that they've built up to ensure they have their own sharia zones that police can't get into.
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Post by spatial on Dec 5, 2018 15:02:58 GMT 10
Hasn't France been on the verge of civil war for a while now over the angst about their open borders letting all the illegal refugees flood in. So much to the point that I believe there was a story going that the government was going to instigate the civil war in order to crack down on the illegals running wild and their no-go areas around the cities that they've built up to ensure they have their own sharia zones that police can't get into. There is indeed lots of things going on, but what will be the one issue that pushes things tooo far... I read a recent article that a number of Germans were plotting to make the country ungovernable, there were a number of arrests including ex military and current serving and a few ranking officers. Europe has a long history of civil war, it won't be different this time. With stock markets going crazy things are getting primed.
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Post by Beno on Dec 5, 2018 16:18:10 GMT 10
add a poorly executed Brexit and most of the ingredients are in the pot ready to boil.
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Post by norseman on Dec 6, 2018 9:33:28 GMT 10
I guess the Police do what they're told by the Guv. The Guv does what its told by the very rich people with real lobby power. And hence the question in the title of this thread ... at what point do Police (or military) look at an order and think ... "Nah. Not doing it. We have more in common with the intended targets than we do with the people telling us to smash them." At this point individuals will be forced to confront their morality. At what point do the cops turn the teargas and batons back on the scum in Government? I'd say it's probably about the same time they think to start taking their uniforms off and throw them in the nearest dumpster! The police are only allowed to get away with what they do because the common man on the street allows them to, when en masse they say enough is enough then the cops better sign on with the citizens or run like hell!
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Post by Joey on Dec 6, 2018 19:31:03 GMT 10
I guess the Police do what they're told by the Guv. The Guv does what its told by the very rich people with real lobby power. And hence the question in the title of this thread ... at what point do Police (or military) look at an order and think ... "Nah. Not doing it. We have more in common with the intended targets than we do with the people telling us to smash them." At this point individuals will be forced to confront their morality. At what point do the cops turn the teargas and batons back on the scum in Government? I'd say it's probably about the same time they think to start taking their uniforms off and throw them in the nearest dumpster! The police are only allowed to get away with what they do because the common man on the street allows them to, when en masse they say enough is enough then the cops better sign on with the citizens or run like hell! Looks like it's already starting to happen
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Post by doglovingjim on Dec 7, 2018 22:43:54 GMT 10
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Post by Joey on Dec 8, 2018 6:23:32 GMT 10
France has been smouldering for a while starting with the .gov open borders for the illegal migrants, then the general distain for the EU and their socialist 1 Europe government mentality flowing through to this fuel tax have been enough friction to ignite the embers into a fire and soon enough this will turn I to a bonfire and spread throughout Europe as more and more people wake up and realise they have been driving with their blinkers on. No wonder the EU quickly wants to form an EU army because they know their control of power is very close to being threatened
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Post by doglovingjim on Dec 8, 2018 10:15:52 GMT 10
Who'd have thought the French people had much bigger balls than the Aussies. The French have a history of revolutions, all we had was the Eureka revolt which was quickly gunned down.
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Post by spatial on Dec 8, 2018 12:00:51 GMT 10
Who'd have thought the French people had much bigger balls than the Aussies. The French have a history of revolutions, all we had was the Eureka revolt which was quickly gunned down. Very true it is the same in South Africa, get bad service at a restaurant -no one complains, the same if council make stupid laws etc.... Far too tolerant in Aussie - the new younger so called snowflake generation have one good talent they stand up for what is right and are very adept at making themselves heard. The french have been pushed too far with green taxes and immigrants, cost of living way too high. Many are referring to it as the the west's equivalent of the Arab spring where major populist movements across the M.East took down many gov...
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Post by Pion on Dec 10, 2018 13:44:03 GMT 10
None of this is new...Europe has been slaughtering it's own for 5000+ years...why stop now...
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Post by spatial on Dec 15, 2018 7:36:35 GMT 10
None of this is new...Europe has been slaughtering it's own for 5000+ years...why stop now... The UN and EU were the to be the fix to European wars, then they let the Muslims in and so it all falls apart. Apparently the the Yellow Jackets are planning more action today in France despite the french president giving all kinds of concessions and dropping taxes. The French budget is now more overspent than what the EU rules allow. Since the EU have been putting very tough restrictions on the Spanish budget - if they now allow France to go over budget the hypocrisy will have a big backlash in Spain. The actions of the French are having spin off all across Europe.
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Post by Joey on Dec 15, 2018 21:57:28 GMT 10
The yellow vest movement has spread far and wide now across Europe and other countries to the point that in Iran there made it a criminal offence to sell yellow vests with swift and brutal punishments.
There are even Facebook groups here trying to get the yellow vest protests up and going here
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Post by Pion on Dec 15, 2018 22:18:36 GMT 10
The guy that started the yellow jackets probably has shares in a PPE manufacturer...
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Post by jonasparker on Dec 16, 2018 6:13:29 GMT 10
Ahhh. La Belle France! Another socialist paradise comes crashing down.
If you all want to read some real horror stories, check on what's going on in Argentina right now.
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Post by spatial on Dec 16, 2018 7:35:58 GMT 10
The guy that started the yellow jackets probably has shares in a PPE manufacturer... It is a legal requirement in France that all vehicles have a reflective vest in them for emergencies on the roadside.
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Post by Joey on Dec 16, 2018 10:17:17 GMT 10
The guy that started the yellow jackets probably has shares in a PPE manufacturer... It is a legal requirement in France that all vehicles have a reflective vest in them for emergencies on the roadside. Not anymore lol
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