orgprophet: WAKE UP EVERYONE .... you will NOT be able to prep soon!
Jul 7, 2019 10:29:06 GMT 10
spinifex: What will be stopping everyone from prepping? And how soon is soon? Got a hot tip about an upcoming event?
Jul 7, 2019 13:46:22 GMT 10
WolfDen: I hope everyone had a good weekend! Hit tomorrow with everything you have. Chest out, shoulders back, chin up!
Jul 7, 2019 23:22:45 GMT 10
orgprophet: spinifex ... you can not prep if you can not get things, when the gfc hit it was a liquidity issue ... banks stopped trusting other banks to be able to pay so the system was grinding to a halt .... when confidence erodes that credit no longer is issued to
Jul 8, 2019 16:55:14 GMT 10
orgprophet: other banks or other suppliers of goods, the shelves will become empty ... banks can become closed, credit cards all suspended ... and you will have to live on what you have available ... this happens when hyperinflation kicks in or confidence is lost
Jul 8, 2019 16:56:25 GMT 10
spinifex: A major storm front is supposed to lash South Oz this arvo. Winds to 120k. A good test for the pallet wrap hut!
Jul 10, 2019 8:31:59 GMT 10
WolfDen: Yeah sounds like good weather Spinifex!
Jul 10, 2019 10:01:23 GMT 10
spinifex: Getting some good rains now. Hope it extends to the dry areas 100km north of here - farms up there have been missing out a lot this winter and struggling to keep stock fed.
Jul 10, 2019 12:54:56 GMT 10
WolfDen: I hope everyone has an awesome weekend!
Jul 13, 2019 12:45:30 GMT 10
justdoitmyway: Anyone around ?
Jul 13, 2019 14:33:07 GMT 10
This approach is so desperate to get pigs in the ground as quickly as possible that it makes me wonder if the authorities there fear the disease could mutate to being transmissible to humans. From what I read, that is very, very unlikely ... but panicked officials are capable of all kinds of madness it seems.
But like said, if the situation is desperate enough, many times desperate measures are required. And quite frankly we don't know, or may never know the details of the seriousness involved. So quite frankly I'm not going to criticize not knowing these details. And to a point glad they seem on the ball to deal with the issue.
But then we also don't know the details of whether they are ahead of the crisis, on time with measures, or behind the danger of the issue. Again as horrible as things look, we can only hope they are on time or ahead of the crisis with what ever actions are necessary. I hope more accurate details come to light eventually.
My 5 cents of opinion.
The farther north you go, the more things that can and will eat you and your horse. Grandpa Gilbert Keep your stick on the ice. Red Green
They are behind the curve and trying to catch up. I don't even think this is just about disease containment anymore. I think it may be about disposing of all the soon to die pigs before they die in the actual piggeries and create problems for human disease outbreaks. Its rough but fast. It is a pity that they are not consuming the pigs at huge BBQ's. They are safe to eat even when infected. Lots of people here in Oz are right now eating ILT infected chicken meat.
Here we would put them through a race and shoot them. But its a lot slower doing it that way; even if you have a lot of races operating at the pit. The problem then becomes the dead bodies pile up below the race so there is extra work/delays in leveling the corpse heaps in the pit and/or moving the races around. Live animals in a pit effectively distribute themselves evenly. A lot of those pigs will be dying from internal injuries after falling into the pits and or thirst because I reckon it'll take many days before the pit is dozed flat.
I also note it is an unlined pit so when all those pigs decompose the juices are going to either move into the groundwater or seep out somewhere down-hill. Or if there is heavy rain it can heave the ground up like an earthquake as the pressure of decomposition gas rises to the surface of the ground. I've seen what happens to big sheep/cattle disposal pits after bush-fires (but nowhere near the size of the Chinese one in the video) ... putrefaction at that scale produces a LOT of fetid juice and gas.
I have read that in a previous disease outbreak a few years ago they were dumping fuel in the pits and burning them alive. Looks like they are still at it. Sucks to be livestock in China.
There is something really wrong with the people involved in this. Those doing it and those filming it. The actual disease management benefit of this insanity is zero.
I thought twice before putting this link in ... but I did to demonstrate how people are capable of extreme brutality when it is 'officially sanctioned' or thought 'necessary'. It's not a big leap from doing this to animals to liquidating multitudes of people under the right conditions. WARNING : very graphic content. www.kinderworld.org/videos/meat-industry/pigs-burned-alive-china/
Last Edit: Jun 2, 2019 17:42:38 GMT 10 by spinifex