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Post by spatial on Nov 22, 2021 20:42:41 GMT 10
Survivor Lilly interviews an Austrian blackout researcher. Some very interesting facts.
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Tim Horton
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Post by Tim Horton on Nov 23, 2021 9:36:18 GMT 10
Watched the first 16 minutes so far.. Will have to finish it later..
However in this time they outline more details of the system and the vulnerability of the system than I knew and likely many didn't know.. The vulnerability of the system by the fact of its simplicity and its wide spread connections to the rest of the whole country ..be that North America or Europe... This compounded by no clue interference with managing and improving the systems has created the potential for bad events, like mentioned..
For so many reasons there is the potential for events we can't imagine right now.. It ..could.. be a rough ride campers.. Sadder than that will be the wasted energy with finger pointing, and blaming of all sorts when so many own a part of that..
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 23, 2021 12:42:13 GMT 10
Its all coming down folks, best go off grid now and avoid the rush !
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Post by Tim Horton on Nov 23, 2021 15:47:05 GMT 10
Watched the rest of the video.. Being as electrical illiterate as I am about how to do the work and use the parts, there was much of the overview I understand.. The devil in the system will be things like one of the big hydro transmission line towers goes down by weather or what ever means.. Or the place that had the tornado hit a major sub station that supplied other sub stations.. Or here where the tree went down over the fence into a local area sub station... A million thing that if the right amount of things, or the one worst thing that could happen will put many in a tough spot ...in my 5 cents of opinion.... Like the floods, slides, snow that has shut down areas of the lower province here.. Power is one of the many things that needs fixed, and will be slow going at best..
Going off grid is one option... Having alternatives is always a good idea.. I find out my mother in law is having a transfer switch wired in.. She will be generator shopping soon I suspect...
A funny thing.... At about 42 minutes in the video they are talking a little about how all this will apply to the US also.. Lilli askes her expert something about Canada.. He replies he doesn't know about Canada as it is always cold there..... Chuckle...
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Post by Stealth on Nov 23, 2021 16:17:00 GMT 10
I think if you can go offgrid and you're so inclined, it wouldn't be a bad time to do so. Unfortunately there's a decent number of us that don't have that option right now so prepping as best we can is the best solution we have for now. That being said, I think offgrid is the perfect ultimate plan.
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Post by drjenner on Nov 24, 2021 2:34:47 GMT 10
Hoping to go off grid in the next 6 months. Lots of planning involved, and trying to design a house that is set up for off grid living.
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Post by bug on Nov 24, 2021 7:42:27 GMT 10
I bought a generator about 18 months ago. Not the easiest to start, but runs fine. We used it when the storms came through and were the only house with lights on for a while. A bit annoyed that my solar array won't treat the generator as the 'grid' and shuts itself off though. We plan on getting an electric car soon, which can act as a home battery that lasts for a week, which would take care of that problem.
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Post by Tim Horton on Nov 24, 2021 10:35:41 GMT 10
Hoping to go off grid in the next 6 months. Lots of planning involved, and trying to design a house that is set up for off grid living. <<< >>> A number of years ago.. There was something in a magazine like Popular Mechanics, Popular Science about someone building an on, off grig house.. Also similar articles a number of years later in a US publication called Mother Earth News.. I know Mother Earth News is gone now and likely the others also..
Basically... What they did was wire the house for grid, mostly because that is what a mortgage lender would require... But at that time they also wired for 12 volt lights, and plumbed for gas lights.. I suspect propane fueled, as I don't know if natural gas lights exist.. Anyway, I'm sure the technology of all these systems has improved a lot since that time...
Thought to ponder....
There have been times here in the bush, I have looked at the basement with thoughts of installing a propane kitchen range that does not require power to light burners or the oven.. Over a longer haul that would be a nice advantage over other options during power grid down.. Especially for an old guy..
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Post by drjenner on Nov 24, 2021 10:48:49 GMT 10
Hoping to go off grid in the next 6 months. Lots of planning involved, and trying to design a house that is set up for off grid living. <<< >>> A number of years ago.. There was something in a magazine like Popular Mechanics, Popular Science about someone building an on, off grig house.. Also similar articles a number of years later in a US publication called Mother Earth News.. I know Mother Earth News is gone now and likely the others also.. Basically... What they did was wire the house for grid, mostly because that is what a mortgage lender would require... But at that time they also wired for 12 volt lights, and plumbed for gas lights.. I suspect propane fueled, as I don't know if natural gas lights exist.. Anyway, I'm sure the technology of all these systems has improved a lot since that time... Thought to ponder.... There have been times here in the bush, I have looked at the basement with thoughts of installing a propane kitchen range that does not require power to light burners or the oven.. Over a longer haul that would be a nice advantage over other options during power grid down.. Especially for an old guy.. I was hoping to build a small cabin type place for cash. Will look into that. Also wanted to build a summer kitchen, for canning and the like, plus get a woodstove that doubles as a cookstove for the house. Something to be said for going back to basics.
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Post by Tim Horton on Nov 24, 2021 11:31:41 GMT 10
I was hoping to build a small cabin type place for cash. Will look into that. Also wanted to build a summer kitchen, for canning and the like, plus get a woodstove that doubles as a cookstove for the house. Something to be said for going back to basics. <<< >>> Yes... Back to the basics is fine, but a lot of work in a lot of ways where a small convienence like the stand alone range is so nice to have.. Summer kitchen... In our brief, but can be somewhat inense summers, I would love, love to have a summer kitchen..... This for Sweetie to do some of her canning and such to keep heat out of the house.. Our old house was built "super insulated" for the far north climate, so it doesn't take much to seemingly over heat it sometimes.. Anyway... Sweetie isn't crazy about that idea.. I may just do it anyway.. Just an 8x8...8x10 on skids.. "Man Shack".... That way I can furnish it as I want and pull it with the tractor out site past the barn.. A place to put up my WW2 bomber "nose art" prints..
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Post by Stealth on Nov 25, 2021 7:57:52 GMT 10
Anyway... Sweetie isn't crazy about that idea.. I may just do it anyway.. Just an 8x8...8x10 on skids.. "Man Shack".... That way I can furnish it as I want and pull it with the tractor out site past the barn.. A place to put up my WW2 bomber "nose art" prints.. Absolutely do it Tim! I reckon a couple of summers in and Sweetie will notice how much nicer it is to be pottering around outside but still in the kitchen and you'll find her gradually 'move in' lol.
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Post by drjenner on Nov 25, 2021 10:22:39 GMT 10
Anyway... Sweetie isn't crazy about that idea.. I may just do it anyway.. Just an 8x8...8x10 on skids.. "Man Shack".... That way I can furnish it as I want and pull it with the tractor out site past the barn.. A place to put up my WW2 bomber "nose art" prints.. Absolutely do it Tim! I reckon a couple of summers in and Sweetie will notice how much nicer it is to be pottering around outside but still in the kitchen and you'll find her gradually 'move in' lol. Totally agree. She will see the benefits soon!
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Post by tactile on Nov 25, 2021 12:14:45 GMT 10
Bit of info on how the Euro system works and where its heading...
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Makes me think its not as vulnerable as the US...will be interesting to see how it plays out in the next few years.
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Post by bug on Nov 25, 2021 12:44:08 GMT 10
In Australia, HV transmission lines are going up all over the place to cater for the fact that generators are scattered, rather than being concentrated in Gladstone, Hunter Valley and Latrobe valley. Same has to happen in any region wanting to transition to renewables. There's no single country in Europe big enough to do it on their own.
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