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Post by dadbod on Jul 6, 2022 20:38:41 GMT 10
The biggest parasites of all are Ikea, Google and Amazon. Ikea? IKEA pay no tax and never have, send all profits overseas. I also hate how they have made fast fashion furniture. its single use crap that gets dumped on nature strips after every rental house gets turned over.
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Post by hd1340 on Jul 6, 2022 20:52:02 GMT 10
Your error is assuming that money is the motivator, my motivator is actually flexibility and by having an income which allows for me to achieve the goals I want for myself as well as extras like my charitable goals then that’s what I’ll do. But also if I can have 200k as opposed to 50k for the same 37.5 hours each week, I’ll take the 200 every time and not just for the money. My expenses are about 50k PA. So why work a full week if I can do the same in two days. It’s just more efficient. Money is absolutely a motivator for me. I have a family to pay for a future to build. A lot of folks here have already been through the part that takes egg sucking to get comfortable. Some of us haven't yet finished that part. I now go where the (stable) money is. Bugger loyalty, I had that for over ten years and it got me a stagnant wage and no career growth. Our plan is to pay off a house in the next 5-10 years. Once that's done, we'll start looking at finding a bush block that suits our needs. We'll also do a bit of travel... If the world hasn't popped off yet that is! Then it'll be the long and glorious comforts that come along with earlier-than-most retirement. Without the money to fund that we won't get to do what we want. So I keep a pretty strong contact list and touch base with people regularly. You never know when someone's going to mention that job with A 50K pay bump that'll get you to your goals a couple of years faster. Ended up being offered a job at my previous company just from touching base with a colleague, asked him about the job and his response was you're at the top of the list, replied I haven't applied for it yet to which he responded again no need to you're at the top of the list. I rang him back a couple of days later and said I'd like to apply he again said no need, advised I would still submit an application and would like to go through interview etc so nobody had any recourse. Got the job and nearly double the money I was on in Tassie. Got the missus in on the ground floor also as she was a qualified shunter in Tassie still $100k for her and a $10k referral bonus for me as she was already qualified, she'll probably be promoted to a coordinators role in the next few weeks with the push for diversity(she is more qualified than any other locals though and should be a similar salary to me). Does networking work - most definitively in our industry. All that aside flexibility is my motivation I come and go as I please as long as my works done.
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Post by tactile on Jul 7, 2022 9:19:35 GMT 10
IKEA pay no tax and never have, send all profits overseas. I also hate how they have made fast fashion furniture. its single use crap that gets dumped on nature strips after every rental house gets turned over. Paying no tax at all is incorrect...they have payed more here than the American tech companies.
We have a political system where we can actively lobby our members to get change on matters that really effect us - hence the recent $10000 cash limit legislation that got squashed because of organised and directed (at politicians) public outrage.
All I see here is smart corporates using legal loopholes to further their cause...is it moral? No, but it's legal - currently. We should expect that from them...their charter is to look after the shareholder(s) not taxpayers.
We are the ones doing this to ourselfs from inaction, we have a system where we can effect this sort of legislation but we do nothing. Who are the parasites here?
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Post by frostbite on Jul 7, 2022 10:49:47 GMT 10
Who cares about tax legislation. State of Origin is on, and then the new season of MAFS.
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 8, 2022 9:38:59 GMT 10
Who cares about tax legislation. State of Origin is on, and then the new season of MAFS. State of Origin - YES. MAFS - Pffft! You need to spend more time prepping and less time in fantasy land - LOL - GO BLUES!
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Post by frostbite on Jul 8, 2022 9:53:41 GMT 10
Who cares about tax legislation. State of Origin is on, and then the new season of MAFS. State of Origin - YES. MAFS - Pffft! You need to spend more time prepping and less time in fantasy land - LOL - GO BLUES! That was my attempt at sarcasm.
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Post by d on Jul 9, 2022 7:27:30 GMT 10
I think it’s prudent to be able to step into multiple industries easily as well. For example government want to cut spending on contractors/consultants (lol, good luck) but let’s say they pull it off- I can step back into the trade or indeed join local or federal government in a few capacities.
Career resilience is a big consideration these days.
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Post by bug on Jul 9, 2022 17:42:24 GMT 10
With the money tradies are getting now, you'd be mad not to be using/maintaining a trade if you have it.
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Post by d on Jul 9, 2022 17:53:12 GMT 10
With the money tradies are getting now, you'd be mad not to be using/maintaining a trade if you have it. Yeah I picked a dumb one though parts interpreter. Got the certificate from when they certified that sorta thing…
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 18:18:35 GMT 10
With the money tradies are getting now, you'd be mad not to be using/maintaining a trade if you have it. Yeah I picked a dumb one though parts interpreter. Got the certificate from when they certified that sorta thing… I used to be an interpreter, looked after about 9 makes. Not gonna say what auto parts place to maintain opsec, but it was a crap job and im glad i got out. Can earn some good money though, at one stage i was earning about 1200 a week, but working probably 50 - 60 hours. Doable for sure but desk jobs suck and you get fat and lazy.
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Post by d on Jul 11, 2022 5:41:17 GMT 10
Yeah I picked a dumb one though parts interpreter. Got the certificate from when they certified that sorta thing… I used to be an interpreter, looked after about 9 makes. Not gonna say what auto parts place to maintain opsec, but it was a crap job and im glad i got out. Can earn some good money though, at one stage i was earning about 1200 a week, but working probably 50 - 60 hours. Doable for sure but desk jobs suck and you get fat and lazy. tbh I felt like that was great money for a long time but compared to what’s available and the amount of effort..it kinda sucks, however it was pretty relaxed and I still had time to read on the job however there are pivots available and now as a contractor what was a weeks wage a few years ago is now a daily fee. For context, 1500-2000 is a common daily rate in my field and you are limited to 8 hours a day cause government but the desk sitting does need to be balanced but we have bike desks or treadmill desks available. Full transparency- When I was doing parts I my peak income was 1100 a week (after tax) with monthly bonus of 1500-2500 but the side stuff like supplier incentives, But that was at most 45 hours a week.
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Post by tomatoes on Jul 11, 2022 8:16:20 GMT 10
And the rest here probably don't care. I get where your coming from d but you have the wrong demographic for that question here. Career progression & networking within the current mainstream system? On a prepping site? "I would of thought it was self evident" One of the things many people prep for is difficult economic times, which could be as bad as an economic depression. So it does make sense to think about your work networks and versatility in employment to increase the likelihood that you will have income if times get hard. Actually, the possibility of deciding to leave employment because of conditions or duties of employment changing and your decision to take a stand and not go along with your changed work requirements is increasing greatly. Good to have a backup plan incase you decide you need to leave your current employment. It’s definitely been something I’ve been thinking about lately.
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Post by d on Jul 12, 2022 6:37:22 GMT 10
And the rest here probably don't care. I get where your coming from d but you have the wrong demographic for that question here. Career progression & networking within the current mainstream system? On a prepping site? "I would of thought it was self evident" One of the things many people prep for is difficult economic times, which could be as bad as an economic depression. So it does make sense to think about your work networks and versatility in employment to increase the likelihood that you will have income if times get hard. Actually, the possibility of deciding to leave employment because of conditions or duties of employment changing and your decision to take a stand and not go along with your changed work requirements is increasing greatly. Good to have a backup plan incase you decide you need to leave your current employment. It’s definitely been something I’ve been thinking about lately. Tbh I think an active engagement in building a resilient and highly paid income is just a bit too much work for some people. Taking to numerous people daily as I do now I’m amazed by the amount of apathy around it- as it’s now fair to say there’s no shortage of money out there I just don’t see a reason for someone with a decent had on their shoulders, I’m a strong field and a couple of years In the workforce full time shouldn’t be on a 6 figure salary and have a good network to fall back on, even if they didn’t go to uni.
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Post by dadbod on Jul 12, 2022 8:31:23 GMT 10
One of the things many people prep for is difficult economic times, which could be as bad as an economic depression. So it does make sense to think about your work networks and versatility in employment to increase the likelihood that you will have income if times get hard. Actually, the possibility of deciding to leave employment because of conditions or duties of employment changing and your decision to take a stand and not go along with your changed work requirements is increasing greatly. Good to have a backup plan incase you decide you need to leave your current employment. It’s definitely been something I’ve been thinking about lately. Tbh I think an active engagement in building a resilient and highly paid income is just a bit too much work for some people. Taking to numerous people daily as I do now I’m amazed by the amount of apathy around it- as it’s now fair to say there’s no shortage of money out there I just don’t see a reason for someone with a decent had on their shoulders, I’m a strong field and a couple of years In the workforce full time shouldn’t be on a 6 figure salary and have a good network to fall back on, even if they didn’t go to uni. Totally agree, I have mates who jumped into engineering roles after uni and hit a salary ceiling within 3 years. 10 years later they are sitting in the same seat doing the same role with no progression in career or wage. In their mind, tenure in a role matters and there is some weird loyalty there, i think instilled by their parents to not take risks. I on the otherhand have to lie on my cv and leave out a lot of experiences and roles, just so that it a readable document. you have to be prepared to move to get a real wage rise. i know what people in the workforce who have never changed jobs are like. they resist change and protect their little kingdoms. They would struggle to adapt.
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Post by bug on Jul 12, 2022 8:53:19 GMT 10
Tbh I think an active engagement in building a resilient and highly paid income is just a bit too much work for some people. Taking to numerous people daily as I do now I’m amazed by the amount of apathy around it- as it’s now fair to say there’s no shortage of money out there I just don’t see a reason for someone with a decent had on their shoulders, I’m a strong field and a couple of years In the workforce full time shouldn’t be on a 6 figure salary and have a good network to fall back on, even if they didn’t go to uni. Totally agree, I have mates who jumped into engineering roles after uni and hit a salary ceiling within 3 years. 10 years later they are sitting in the same seat doing the same role with no progression in career or wage. In their mind, tenure in a role matters and there is some weird loyalty there, i think instilled by their parents to not take risks. I on the otherhand have to lie on my cv and leave out a lot of experiences and roles, just so that it a readable document. you have to be prepared to move to get a real wage rise. i know what people in the workforce who have never changed jobs are like. they resist change and protect their little kingdoms. They would struggle to adapt. I made that mistake. It's terrible for salary, but if someone is smart about it, they then use that knowledge that they've gained to sell themselves to a much higher paying employer.
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Post by malewithatail on Jul 12, 2022 8:56:22 GMT 10
"Totally agree, I have mates who jumped into engineering roles after uni and hit a salary ceiling within 3 years. 10 years later they are sitting in the same seat doing the same role with no progression in career or wage."
I came up through the ranks first as an indentured electrical apprentice, then a certificate trainee, finally a graduate engineer specializing in lightning protection. As such, I have a tradies certificate, 5 different electrical licenses, ranging from 500 kv live line working to the humble domestic sparky, and tertiary qualifications. I have had many jobs over the years, from heavy industry (Australian Iron and Steel, to maritime engineer, local Council and then rural industries such as saw-milling, renewable power installations and harvesting equipment maintenance. I was not after the money, but lifestyle. I still have people chasing me to fix their problems, even after retirement some time ago.
I get phone calls from all over Australia and often can fix an issue over the phone. And sometimes, people are so grateful they send me money for it !
If I didn't like the job, I could do something else with all the experience I had, usually stepping out of one job Friday to a new one on Monday morning.
I think that knowledge will be the new currency after TSHTF. Those who can repair or design gear will be those who are sought after by those left and will be in the position of being able to barter or charge for their knowledge.
Its not just a hobby, its an obsession !
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Post by d on Jul 24, 2022 7:06:51 GMT 10
This past week I took two meetings with other firms- Not looking for more/different work but rather just making connections and getting a wider view of the landscape. Both of these meetings got very… job interviewish quite quickly and I’m confident I could leverage these positions into job offers but having spent time with them I’m comfortable in saying these firms aren’t for me. Still great connections to have I think.
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Post by grumble on Jul 24, 2022 19:11:53 GMT 10
By moving sideways a few times to gain extra training and getting some out of field training as well has paid dividends when it comes time to negotiate salary especially with some of the smaller outfits when a contact puts your forward
I remember once getting an extra $10 an hour simply because i had one thing that no one in the crew or company had but was a requirement for the job that they were about start
Oil spill response certification
so for the extra $840 a week i had to once week check all the oil spill kits which there was a massive total of 3 to ensure they were still there and ready for use
then combine that with my tag and test certification , QMS3 ticket, confined space , remote area lvl 3 workplace 1st aid i was in the end getting an extra $1100 a week in my pay and this all came through because a contact put me forward
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Post by Stealth on Jul 24, 2022 22:45:15 GMT 10
One thing that I would suggest is that if you're looking at changing industries to make a pay jump and you're waiting for the sign to do so... Do it now. My other half is hiring for tech related roles (IT, but also customer relations) and he's getting people that are asking WAY above a reasonable wage for the workload.
For example, in the last 6-12 months, he would have been taking people on at higher than they really warranted with their skills and abilities because they were desperate for people. He said that he's noticed in the last couple of months that he's getting far more applicants. Rather than a couple of inexperienced folks with some transferable skills from other industries, he's now getting 4-5 at that level, and then 1-2 of experienced, high quality candidates. Now he's hiring people at the same wage but he's getting quality in the door rather than waiting for 12 months for them to get fully up to speed. Most of the hiring managers around him have been saying the same thing.
His observation was that as an entry level role that has some skilled elements he's seeing better quality candidates who're willing to take a reasonable wage instead of being able to demand higher because there's a labour shortage. Does that mean every industry is the same? Not likely. But I'd be inclined to think that it's the start of a sign of the market changing from an employee's market to an employer's market. While inflation means that people need more money to get by, it also means that employers are going to have more people willing to work for that same wage just to be getting any money in at all.
I personally think that if you're planning a job change, now is the time to get moving on it while there's still room to negotiate a better wage or better conditions if you're still in the working world.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 25, 2022 5:05:58 GMT 10
You guys want to talk about networking? Forget a few extra dollars per hour, what about having a network that can supply items that are rarer than an honest politician, like pistol powder?
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