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Post by sentinel on Apr 9, 2014 16:48:38 GMT 10
This recent article caught my attention (I think it's the Chinese way of politely saying 'Mind your Own Business').;
China to US: Stop meddling in region.
A senior Chinese official has warned the United States and its allies against stirring up troubles across the volatile Asia-Pacific region.
On Tuesday, Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan warned the United States to "keep (Japan) within bounds and not to be permissive and supportive.”
"It is Japan who is being provocative against China," Chang told a news conference after talks with US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel in Beijing, adding, "If you come to the conclusion that China is going to resort to force against Japan that is wrong ... we will not take the initiative to stir up troubles," Chang added. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hong Lei had recently said Washington needed to be more responsible and stop spreading rumors put about by "right-wing Japanese forces." This comes as Beijing has long been engaged in a dispute with Tokyo over the sovereignty of the group of the uninhabited islands in the East China Sea, which are known as Diaoyu in China and Senkaku in Japan. Senior Chinese officials have repeatedly called on Washington not to take sides over the issue. The developments come as Washington and Beijing have locked horns over a range of issues. On Sunday, China warned the US not to interfere in Hong Kong’s affairs, following a meeting between US Vice President Joe Biden and anti-Beijing activists. A Chinese government spokesman urged Washington to “proceed discreetly” regarding the affairs of Hong Kong to avoid damage to China-US ties. Beijing has demanded a clear explanation from Washington over reports of espionage by the US National Security Agency (NSA) on Chinese companies and institutions. Senior officials in Beijing say they are gravely concerned about the claims and demand that any such spying be stopped. JR/PR/SL
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Apr 11, 2014 21:51:22 GMT 10
Post by sentinel on Apr 11, 2014 21:51:22 GMT 10
Our illustrious leader appears to be playing a dangerous game - I wonder if he is up speed on this level of diplomacy? (His previous record with Vlad - {putin-power-ranger}left a lot to be desired on the international stage, oh and of course there was that debacle with Indonesia - think I will stop here as I may get depressed)!!! (Not that I favour any other political mob either - I recently told a radio DJ friend of mine that the easiest way to know if there is a good politician is to ask yourself - "Would I hire this person to work in my business for me" - bet you get more NO's than YES's!! Actually would be surprised if there's a YES!!)!! ................................................................................................... US unsettled by China's 'three warfares' strategy: Pentagon report Political News Date April 11, 2014 (2) John Garnaut The US and its military partners are reaching for new tools to counter an unconventional ''three warfares'' strategy that China is using to advance aggressive territorial claims, according to a Pentagon report. It says the People's Liberation Army is using what it calls ''legal warfare'', ''media warfare'' and ''psychological warfare'' to augment its arsenal of military hardware to weaken the resolve of the US and its regional partners to defend islands and oceans in the East and South China seas. ''They have introduced a military technology which has not previously been considered as such in the West,'' says the report, China: The Three Warfares, which was commissioned by the Pentagon's most senior strategist, Andrew Marshall, and circulated to the US Pacific Fleet. This technology has ''sidestepped the coda of American military science,'' it says. The report's warnings of China's use of ''coercive economic inducements'' and other non-traditional methods underscores Prime Minister Tony Abbott's challenge in balancing economic and security interests, as he prepares to meet China's President Xi Jinping at the Great Hall of the People on Friday night. This week Mr Abbott signed a landmark agreement to develop military technology with China's arch-rival, Japan, while Australian business leaders joined a forum at Bo'ao that was initiated by representatives of a PLA ''influence'' platform, as revealed last year by Fairfax Media. The ''three warfares'' stratagem is rooted in ancient Chinese strategies of ''perception warfare'' as well as the Communist Party's origins as an underground and guerilla organisation. It was modernised and codified a decade ago but appeared to escape serious Western military attention until China began to adopt a far more muscular stance over its contested borders from 2009. Some well-placed Western defence strategists question the efficacy of Chinese ''three warfares'' and broader ''political warfare'' strategies, saying efforts to intimidate have been counterproductive and that military contests will continue to be determined by traditional capabilities. But the lead author of the report, Stefan Halper, told Fairfax Media that Western military strategists had been slow to respond because they were unduly fixated with the PLA's traditional military hardware. Read more: www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/us-unsettled-by-chinas-three-warfares-strategy-pentagon-report-20140410-36g45.html#ixzz2yZq8Xub9
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Apr 12, 2014 9:10:50 GMT 10
Post by sentinel on Apr 12, 2014 9:10:50 GMT 10
Naval Weapons
PACOM chief says China will deploy long-range nuclear missiles on subs this year.
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore.
25 March 2014
The People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) will likely equip its submarines with long-range nuclear missiles for the first time by the end of 2014, according to a 25 March statement to the US Senate Armed Services Committee by the head of US Pacific Command (USPACOM), Admiral Samuel Locklear. "China's advance in submarine capabilities is significant. They possess a large and increasingly capable submarine force," the admiral told the committee. "I think they'll have in the next decade or so a fairly well modernised force of probably 60 to 70 submarines, which is a lot of submarines for a regional power." He added that the latest class of PLAN submarines would be armed with a new ballistic missile with an estimated range of 4,000 n miles (7,500 km). "This will give China its first credible sea-based nuclear deterrent, probably before the end of 2014." Locklear was referring to the production of China's Jin (Type 094)-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine and the JL-2 missile. The JL-2 is a three-stage solid-fuel stellar-inertial guided missile that can travel over 4,320 n miles (8,000 km) while carrying a single 1 MT nuclear warhead. A single Jin-class submarine can carry 12 JL-2 missiles. According to IHS Jane's Fighting Ships , the PLAN currently operates four nuclear-powered ballistic submarines (SSBNs), five nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs) and 53 diesel-electric submarines (SSKs). Satellite imagery viewed by IHS Jane's confirms that China has built at least four Jin-class boats. A Pentagon report to Congress in mid-2013 claimed three were operational, which would confirm imagery showing three alongside at Yulin naval base on Hainan island in early 2014. Meanwhile, a fourth was seen at Bohai shipyard No. 431 at Huludao in January 2013 but is since believed to have finished construction ahead of commissioning.
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Apr 12, 2014 9:58:13 GMT 10
Post by shinester on Apr 12, 2014 9:58:13 GMT 10
If the US embargoed China [and they could easily with their navy] and/or had economic sanctions with them, there economy would collapse. Of course the only recourse would be war, perhaps with Russia on side and then things get reallllllllly messy. China being a one party dictatorship are a particularly scary country [the number of people killed by the state is thought to be in the thousands/year, though it's a national secret], are not dumb and crave the expansion and power so as to maintain their grip on their population.
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Apr 12, 2014 10:50:10 GMT 10
Post by sentinel on Apr 12, 2014 10:50:10 GMT 10
By last count China owns a very large chunk of USA's debt. Both China and Russia are 'dumping' that debt now - what happens next wont be good.
China has been working on other coutries to accept the 'Yuan' as currency. Last to do so was France around the middle of last year. Russia is also building their 'Ruble' to be an international currency - with the inception of the 'BRICS' bank they are well on the way to achieve this goal.
Germany wanted an audit on their gold reserves held in the US. The US said no (As it is gone) they have since struck a deal to 'pay back' this gold in several instalments.
The US 'green back' looks to have a very dodgy future.
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Apr 12, 2014 18:23:39 GMT 10
Post by shinester on Apr 12, 2014 18:23:39 GMT 10
I'd agree with most of that. What I am saying is that China requires selling it's cheap product to the rest of the world for it's main income stream [and why they wont float their own dollar, as it would price them out of the market over night] and would be unlikely to give that up. Also China itself has MASSIVE debt which is spiralling out of control. The main reason for it's growth isn't good fiscal spending, but due to the ridiculous debt it's getting itself into and because they're a communist dictatorship, the wasteful, the corrupt and party members who pocket a great deal of this. Note all of the empty cities. 95% of all money is debt in the world, leaving very little for actual assets/brick and mortar, nobody can cash it all in as there's nothing to substantiate the debts anyhow. One of the main reasons I prep is because of financial issues and the more you look the more ridiculous and out of control the money situation seems to be.
So China are working with Russia, have massive debts, have a corrupt system of government and wasteful spending and are themselves not in the greatest of spots. They're rattling sabres perhaps to keep the growth going with expansion [very scary] so as to starve off the inevitable time to pay, or to grab resources whilst they can.
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Apr 12, 2014 21:24:19 GMT 10
Post by sentinel on Apr 12, 2014 21:24:19 GMT 10
Chinas rapid rise in the Global Stakes and Manufacturing has come at a hefty price - pollution (outlined below) a massive drought last year and the need to relocate something like 250 million country people within the next few years ( you may have heard the term 'Ghost Cities' - well they are for the coming mass relocation - they also signed a huge deal with one of Russia's former satellite countries for millions of acres of farming land for a few decades - this is because they have heavily poisoned some of their farm lands. ............................................................................. Overview Sources Treatment Distribution Atlas
Location Introduction Treatment Pollution in China
Also See Treatment Processes Agricultural and Industrial Pollution
Agricultural and Industrial Pollution in China China’s booming economy and massive population are posing some difficult environmental challenges for a nation of some 1.2 billion people. Water pollution and waste management are among the most pressing issues.
China is not a water-rich land. The country’s per-person water supply is actually quite low. The water that does exist is unevenly distributed across China’s massive landscape. So, too, are treatment facilities adequate to mitigate high levels of agricultural and industrial contamination.
China produces over 3.5 million tons of sewage waste per day. To treat just half that amount, they would need to invest in 10,000 treatment facilities. Some modern wastewater treatment plants and sanitation systems do exist, but many more are required.
Perhaps half of all Chinese—a staggering 600 million people—drink water that is contaminated by human or animal waste. These people are subjected to waterborne disease and a myriad of human health concerns related to the use of polluted water.
China’s major river systems exhibit the scope of the problem. Perhaps 70 percent of their water is so polluted that it has been deemed unsafe for human contact. In addition to untreated sewage released into these waterways, high-growth industries such as textiles, paper manufacturing, chemicals, and pharmaceuticals account for a large share of this pollution.
At dumps, toxic runoff often percolates through the earth to contaminate groundwater aquifers. Untreated mining and industrial waste leaves some waters contaminated with such high metal content that they literally run red with rust-colored water. Lead levels have been recorded in Chinese rivers that are some 44 times greater than accepted norms.
Clean water is essential to the nation’s agrarian economy, which consumes about 75 percent of China’s total water resource. Heavy metals that persist in water can be taken up by food crops grown with that water and may cause cancer, kidney stones, or other health problems.
China’s cash crop—rice—has seen reduced yields in some locales and many consumers are wary of eating food that they believe was grown with tainted water.
According to the United Nation‘s Food and Agricultural Organization, China also is the world’s largest consumer of synthetic nitrogen fertilizers. When an excessive amount of nitrogen and other chemicals used in fertilizers is introduced into a waterway, an imbalance of organic materials can occur which leads to increased algae blooms. Increased algae blooms negatively affect the water supply and have already led to the temporary closure of drinking water plants in some areas of China.
Solutions exist for China’s problems, yet implementing them on the required scale will necessarily be a massive undertaking.
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May 2, 2014 19:14:26 GMT 10
Post by sentinel on May 2, 2014 19:14:26 GMT 10
(This is the first 'official' notification to a problem we are well aware off already. - DON'T buy Chinese imported foodstuffs!!!!) L.
China just revealed a major state secret: nearly 20% of its farmland is polluted
By Lily Kuo @lilkuo April 18, 2014
Almost one-fifth of China’s farmland is polluted, according to a government report released this week. Officials have acknowledged the country’s problems with water and air pollution, but the extent of soil contamination has been a closely guarded “state secret,” for fear of incriminating certain provinces or companies.
About 19.4% of China’s farmland is polluted by cadmium, nickel and arsenic, according to the seven-year study that analyzed a little over half of China’s entire land area. One-fifth of China’s total arable land is about 26 million hectares (64 million acres), the same area as the United Kingdom, by the most recent estimates.
The pollution is concentrated around the Yangtze and Pearl River Deltas—key sources of water in the country and home to millions of people—as well as in parts of the south where much of China’s rice is grown. Last year, half of all samples of rice in Guangzhou were found to have poisonous levels of cadmium, a chemical that can cause kidney failure when ingested. The main causes are agriculture and industry, the report said. (Farmers contribute to soil pollution with their use of fertilizers and pesticides and improper disposal of animal waste.)
Why officials chose to release the results isn’t clear. Authorities have recently admitted environmental mistakes, like the existence of villages near industrial plants where cancer rates have soared, which they had long denied. Still, the soil study results may be optimistic. In December, an official said 3 million hectares of Chinese farmland are now too polluted to even grow crops on. Other estimates of China’s soil pollution are as much as 40-70% of total land, as we’ve noted before.
The worst part may be that the brunt of pollution is borne by villagers, whose farmland and animals are closest to the factories and mines that release contaminants. They are also the most likely to be punished for protesting. Last week, a school teacher in Hunan province was given three years in prison (paywall) for organizing a protest against a local chemical plant. One reason may be that local governments often depend upon these factories or other industrial projects for revenue.
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May 11, 2014 19:11:23 GMT 10
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May 11, 2014 19:12:26 GMT 10
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May 11, 2014 20:00:06 GMT 10
Post by remnantprep on May 11, 2014 20:00:06 GMT 10
Hubby and I have often wondered about the difficult position Australia has placed itself in! Its concerning when articles like this (about Australia) keep appearing in the media. I wonder if China would ever attack Australia in any way and would USA come to our defence? During ww2 Menzies struggled to get Churchill to send troops to Singapore when Australia came under threat from Japan.
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May 12, 2014 5:02:34 GMT 10
Post by sentinel on May 12, 2014 5:02:34 GMT 10
IMO - While we are useful to them they will support us - either by basing forces on or territories or supplying us equipment/supplies to 'Go it Alone'. Here are the reasons I opt for the first;
* We have been their strongest consistent supporter and ally for over 60 yrs (we go where they go).
* We provide full base access on our soil for their bases, and there are quiet a few, to my knowledge (unlike their other foreign in 'use bases'), we still do not charge them for these leases - they are here at no financial cost from their gov't to our gov't and we are/were(I assume this is still the case) still the only foreign country to do so - the rest where/do receive financial remunerations.
* Our weapons Technology is a carbon copy of their weaponry - upgrades are then much simpler to carry out (our front line jet-fighters are/were being upgraded soon or already have been. (Systems like Oculus for example will be almost as simple as being 'plugged in' as ports and spaces are already incorporated in overall design for future upgrades {NB - Oculus was/is a new tech recently made public so I quoted this as an example of new technologies that will become operational systems}).
* Australia was basically used as a forwards operations base by the US during WWII - masses of troops were billeted in this country prior the pacific campaign and literally tons upon tons of stores were in readiness for supplying troops.
* They presently need some of their bases here as a key element in their war in the Middle-East and Afghanistan, Australia provides this security and freedom to use their technology to it's maximum capability. (With out access to our radio telescope facility the US may have not been the first to reach the moon all those years ago, this should indicate the importance of a 'friendly' Ally on the other side of the globe).
* One of the most crucial factors though is simply logistics - the distance from the US to China is approx;-
Distance from United States to China is 11646.7 kilometers This air travel distance is equal to 7236.93 miles.
Distance from China to Australia is approx;-
Distance from China to Australia is 7473.99 kilometers This air travel distance is equal to 4644.13 miles.
(A little over half the distance - distance is important in supplying military units).
(The above are based on my knowledge and are in my opinion - you may or may not agree with my examples or my statements - your choice).
Distance between United States to China: km = miles
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May 12, 2014 9:19:37 GMT 10
Post by remnantprep on May 12, 2014 9:19:37 GMT 10
Thanks sentinel that was really interesting! My concern is if the USA becomes busy elsewhere, like Mid East, Ukraine/Russia, also the possibility of war on thier own land! Is Australia capable of taking on someone like China and would the Asia nations be willing to cooperate with us?
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Jul 8, 2014 22:35:07 GMT 10
Post by sentinel on Jul 8, 2014 22:35:07 GMT 10
globalnation.inquirer.net/107647/chinas-new-territorial-law-could-spell-disaster-analyst?PageSpeed=noscriptChina’s new territorial law could spell disaster – analyst By Bong Lozada |INQUIRER.net 5:51 pm | Monday, July 7th, 2014 MANILA, Philippines – China’s new territorial law could mean disaster if it is implemented in the encompassed territories in the nation’s nine-dash line. Defense analyst Rommel Banlaoi said that if China chooses to implement their new law in their claimed areas inside the dotted lines, which covers 80 percent of the South China Sea, the nation could use its military in enforcing the law. “It’s problematic since there are so many claimants in the disputed areas that the nine-dash line has surrounded,” Banlaoi said Monday at Camp Aguinaldo. According to a report from the South China Morning Post, China can use military force in its coastal territories near Hainan province where they suspect tourism facilities set up in the area are used for spying purposes. SCMP added the Standing Committee of China’s National People’s Congress has enacted the Law of People’s Republic of China on the Protection of Military Installations, which would be implemented on August 1. Countries like the Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, and Malaysia also lay claim to territories in the South China Sea. Banlaoi added the new law is to strengthen a previous one, of the same name, which was implemented in 1990. “With those small steps, it could really alter the status quo in the South China Sea,” Banlaoi said. Also, if Beijing implements the law in the South China Sea and the tension there escalates to military actions, not only would it affect the claimant-countries, it would also dent the “whole world.” “That’s the epicenter of maritime traffic going to the Persian Gulf, the Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, around 50 percent of sea vessels pass through that area,” Banlaoi said. He added that China should identify what the restricted areas that they mentioned in the law, as there are no clear definitions of the term. Practicing caution Still, Banlaoi said that China would practice caution in implementing the new law and that it would only stay in its 12 nautical mile coastal zones. He added that there would be no cause for alarm as the law’s text did not mention the South China Sea. “If we interpret the media reports from China, they are really being cautious in mentioning other countries, and mentioning the South China Sea,” Banlaoi said. He added that China is free to pass any legislation that would protect its sovereignty, as long as they practice it in their own waters. Business as usual Banlaoi said fishermen that they should still go to their work normally even with the implementation of China’s new law. “It’s business as usual for them,” Banlaoi said. “They have rights inside our own waters to fish especially inside our 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone.”
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Jul 9, 2014 1:20:47 GMT 10
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Jul 9, 2014 1:21:48 GMT 10
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