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Post by graynomad on Jul 28, 2014 14:47:56 GMT 10
This was just posted by Keith on the "Australian Preppers" FB page www.projectworldawareness.com/2010/09/life-on-this-earth-just-changed-the-north-atlantic-current-is-gone/As I said there, I aren't qualified to comment on the science, but I did see a show a year or two back where they stated that the Gulf stream is all that keeps the UK and parts of Europe habitable. If that's correct and the stream has gone they (and to a lesser degree us) are in deep shit. I'd better add an extension for my UK family and friends  Anybody know if it's for real? |
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Post by wolfstar on Jul 28, 2014 15:03:03 GMT 10
It's possible. The oceanic conveyors have been slowing at an alarming rate globally.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 28, 2014 15:10:03 GMT 10
I hope not.
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Post by Frank on Jul 28, 2014 15:17:07 GMT 10
I noticed the article was from 2010.....
"The ‘process’ of entering a new Ice Age could begin coming upon us in full force (rather like in the movie “The Day After Tomorrow”) at any time, or it could take three to five year to fully play out with early glaciation beginning in North America and Europe and Asia this winter (both models have existed in the beginnings of different Ice Ages in Earth’s past)."
If this is correct, should we have seen some pretty significant effects over the couple of years?
There have been some pretty severe floods, storms and winters, but overall nothing that hasn't really happened before?
(I am no expert though)
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Post by wolfstar on Jul 28, 2014 15:26:40 GMT 10
The odds of it being so sudden are slim to nil, you have to remember that for entertainment sake they have to sensationalize.
There is proof that even in the last ice age the equator was more like current temperate climates. So an ice age event would not mean global extinction. Just that things would get much much colder overall, forcing tropical species to have to adapt or die, and temperate species migrate or die. And yes even in an ice age there are still summer/winter cycles.
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Post by pheniox17 on Jul 28, 2014 16:19:56 GMT 10
OK..
Some looks a little fear based, one thing tho, have a serious think about the last 4 years, weather wise, australia, usa and the uk ( counting other majors in asia, europe, israel) have had really nasty weather patterns so it holds some weight, BUT there are other things like a blockage if the system in the golf of Mexico (the bp oil spill is been blamed)
But deserves some credit, weather isn't as extreme as expected (when it starts snowing in Brisbane I will be one of the first to cry about it)
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Post by wolfstar on Jul 28, 2014 16:30:13 GMT 10
That's exactly it Phen, most people are expecting it to be a sudden world wide snap freeze. The extreme weather has been identified to be a product of the climate change. Not Obama (as some morons in America apparently think lol), abs regardless of the cause the evidence is that things are changing rapidly. If the poles also shift at a vulnerable time, as the magnetic field is also weakening, I wonder if things will compound, causing more destruction? Regardless I believe our real worry in all of this is mass hysteria if things start changing noticably by the average folks.
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Post by graynomad on Jul 28, 2014 18:16:32 GMT 10
I posted this then went out to do some work, then thought I should have checked the date on the article.
There has been talk of the gulf stream stopping long before BP's stuff up I think, as part of the global warming thing. I don't know if it would have a direct effect on Oz but for sure if life gets too hard in the northern hemisphere they will all want to come down here, and that's a problem.
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 28, 2014 19:27:18 GMT 10
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Post by Nex Socius on Jul 28, 2014 19:48:40 GMT 10
Note to self: store some winter woolies just in case!
When I get a spare min, I'll do a Primo search on my uni's library database and see if there are any recent research on there.
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Post by wolfstar on Jul 28, 2014 20:22:31 GMT 10
Still moving yes, but slower than it was only 20 years ago by a long shot. While 20 years is a long time to us, it's almost a heartbeat in the earth's natural rhythms.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 4:22:06 GMT 10
This was just posted by Keith on the "Australian Preppers" FB page www.projectworldawareness.com/2010/09/life-on-this-earth-just-changed-the-north-atlantic-current-is-gone/As I said there, I aren't qualified to comment on the science, but I did see a show a year or two back where they stated that the Gulf stream is all that keeps the UK and parts of Europe habitable. If that's correct and the stream has gone they (and to a lesser degree us) are in deep shit. I'd better add an extension for my UK family and friends Anybody know if it's for real? No, I don't know much about this stuff. I've read that one of the fundamental concepts of the earths climate is that the Southern Hemisphere is warmer than the Northern Hemisphere however.... and that when this ocean conveyor stuff was being theorised circa 100 hundred and fifty years ago correct conclusions were being drawn from incorrect rationale... I will try and find the link I got this from. I posted it to the guardian website about a week ago so it should be on my profile if I dig around a bit! I don't really understand the 'THERMOHALINE' concept but that could be a good keyword to plug into google to get you started. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 4:23:08 GMT 10
I could have that all backwards btw ;>
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 4:26:48 GMT 10
I posted this then went out to do some work, then thought I should have checked the date on the article. There has been talk of the gulf stream stopping long before BP's stuff up I think, as part of the global warming thing. I don't know if it would have a direct effect on Oz but for sure if life gets too hard in the northern hemisphere they will all want to come down here, and that's a problem. I think if the gulf stream stops it is a very big deal for everyone everywhere period Like I read, one of the fundamental concepts was that the hemispheres have different temperatures... I suppose this allows flow to happen and ... stuff..!??! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 4:34:46 GMT 10
It's possible. The oceanic conveyors have been slowing at an alarming rate globally. This sounds troubling... if Frank says the article is from 2010 that is also worth considering but still I don't think I like the sound of an oceanic conveyor not doing it's normal thing. I also believe atmosphere is a more important conveyor of heat compared to the ocean depending on how far you are away from the equator i.e. one is more important than the other in different scenarios but as you can tell, I am no expert... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 4:38:50 GMT 10
Being called the THERMOHALINE process I suppose salt is being conveyed aswell,.. the importance of this to me is unknown of course! The atmosphere doesn't do it though so I'm just thinking out loud I suppose!!
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Aug 26, 2014 12:56:24 GMT 10
Isn't water a good conductor of heat compared to the atmosphere?
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Post by wolfstar on Aug 26, 2014 12:58:47 GMT 10
Daniel, you ate correct. That's why water coolers in computers are always leaps and bounds ahead of a fan/heatsink coolers in performance.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Aug 26, 2014 13:00:55 GMT 10
Daniel, you ate correct. That's why water coolers in computers are always leaps and bounds ahead of a fan/heatsink coolers in performance. my home pc is water cooled |
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Post by wolfstar on Aug 26, 2014 13:14:47 GMT 10
So is p.p's rig. Lol
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