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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 22, 2014 15:37:50 GMT 10
Hey guys, I'll make the first post and probably a few more but the idea is that we all post cheap but effective alternatives to expensive specially designed items. Cheap is good, free is better. But most importantly it has to be good, sure you can collect all the grass from your lawn for a salad but it's gonna suck. Water bottle. What's required for a good bug out water bottle? You want a decent capacity in a light weight container with a wide mouth to assist refilling from non-mains sources. I present to you, the Maximus sports drink. Coles has it on their website for $3.29, I picked up one instore yesterday for $2.99. I drank it when I was at the gym yesterday and it actually tastes pretty good, and it has about as much energy as two cans of coke. Something I realised after my work out... back on the treadmill for me haha. You can either put a fresh bottle in your kit and take the extra kJ or if you've already drank it just wash it out, refill with water and away you go. 1L size is preferable because if you carry water purification tablets, they are mostly designed for 1 tablet per L. Disclosure: I also have 2 Nalgene bottles that I love, however in my go bag I carry 2 1.5L Coles brand bottles of water and 1 Nalgene though I'm considering swapping this now for a Maximus bottle to save weight.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 22, 2014 15:41:28 GMT 10
Tinder. The best tinder is lightweight, packs small but can be fluffed up easily, takes a light well and burns for a decent time. I present to you.... (Not my photo, mine comes out looking nicer than that. Then I pack it in ziplock bags) Dryer lint! It's all of the above and also completely free, providing you use a clothes dryer and not hang things up on the washing line all the time.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 22, 2014 15:55:41 GMT 10
Multi-use. Ground wet and struggling to get a fire going? Want a clean surface to prep food, or lay out your firearm cleaning gear or place your medical items on while you patch yourself or someone else up? Forgot/don't have a pot to boil water? Want to wrap up half that rabbit you cooked and have some later? Want to reflect light and try signal an aircraft? You want.... Aluminium foil! This is the coles brand, it's pretty cheap at $1.10 and 10m for this purpose is HEAPS. I'd recommend just go into your pantry, hold the roll in one hand and the foil in the other, stretch your arms as wide as you can, and that's how much you need in a go bag. Fold it up nice and small until it's about the size of a credit card and throw it in with your fire or cooking gear.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 22, 2014 16:27:14 GMT 10
Okay seems like I'm plugging Coles, but all of these items will be available at similar prices at your favourite supermarket. Next up we have..... Multi-purpose. Up again is the multi purpose, because... well what's better than something cheap that can do one job? Something cheap that does heaps of jobs. I don't have enough time to write all uses for petroleum jelly, but google it (and I'm not talking about PAW tension release). I use it for burns, scrapes and minor cuts and when I've got dry lips. Can be used for chaffing, firelighting, various lubrication tasks, and about a million google links relating to it as a 'beauty product'. So put a tub in your bag and a tub in your cupboard... or 6 200g petroleum Jelly for $3.07
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Post by Nighthawk on Aug 22, 2014 16:35:05 GMT 10
Petrolium jelly on dryer lint = fire starter
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Aug 22, 2014 22:14:43 GMT 10
Tinder. The best tinder is lightweight, packs small but can be fluffed up easily, takes a light well and burns for a decent time. I present to you.... (Not my photo, mine comes out looking nicer than that. Then I pack it in ziplock bags) Dryer lint! It's all of the above and also completely free, providing you use a clothes dryer and not hang things up on the washing line all the time. I love this thread mate, great stuff. Also seeing as you mentioned zip lock bags, the biggest size zip lock bag you can find, that's a good cheap prep too, also a roll of garbage bags.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 22, 2014 22:37:22 GMT 10
I don't know how many rolls of heavy duty garbage bags I've got. Edit: speaking of rolls.. Duct tape. That statement goes for that too
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Post by Frank on Aug 23, 2014 8:28:20 GMT 10
Great thread austemplar, thanks for posting it up.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 24, 2014 17:02:16 GMT 10
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Post by PlanZ on Sept 4, 2016 19:51:55 GMT 10
Hey guys, I'll make the first post and probably a few more but the idea is that we all post cheap but effective alternatives to expensive specially designed items. Cheap is good, free is better. But most importantly it has to be good, sure you can collect all the grass from your lawn for a salad but it's gonna suck. Water bottle. What's required for a good bug out water bottle? You want a decent capacity in a light weight container with a wide mouth to assist refilling from non-mains sources. I present to you, the Maximus sports drink. Coles has it on their website for $3.29, I picked up one instore yesterday for $2.99. I drank it when I was at the gym yesterday and it actually tastes pretty good, and it has about as much energy as two cans of coke. Something I realised after my work out... back on the treadmill for me haha. You can either put a fresh bottle in your kit and take the extra kJ or if you've already drank it just wash it out, refill with water and away you go. 1L size is preferable because if you carry water purification tablets, they are mostly designed for 1 tablet per I'm a little late to the party (is 2 years late too late?!) but wanted to give this thread a bump given my current tight financial situation. i like the maximus bottle tip - not just for the drink but for the bottle - they are unusually robust for a throw-away bottle. and the aluminium foil tip is great too. anyone got any more?
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Post by familyprepper on Sept 4, 2016 21:00:22 GMT 10
There are also little sachets of sports type drinks you just add to water I'll find the name and post here They are great for replenishing electrolytes small and that way you can just carry water and if you need the boost you have it
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Post by familyprepper on Sept 4, 2016 21:05:02 GMT 10
Bunnings has / had these they where .99c a pack not sure what they are now how handy depends on individual I suppose me I need them all the time to stay clean
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Post by Joey on Sept 4, 2016 21:43:45 GMT 10
There are also little sachets of sports type drinks you just add to water I'll find the name and post here They are great for replenishing electrolytes small and that way you can just carry water and if you need the boost you have it Sqwincher do both a powered electrolyte you pour a little sachet into a 600ml water, and also a on the go pack that you tear the top and pour in about 60ml of water up to the top of the packet for a quickie on the go. Not too sure on how cheap though.
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Post by shinester on Sept 5, 2016 1:44:59 GMT 10
$5 for 5 days of food - 3 packets of 750g Rolled oats and 1 tin of Coles/cheapo condensed milk = 4.7 days @ 8700kj. Good protein/fat/calcium levels, no cooking required. Will eventually need salt, vit & minerals.
$8 for 5 days of water 20L of coles/aldi water in 10L containers
$0 for free water Recycled well washed softdrink bottles with tap water kept in the dark.
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Post by Ammo9 on Sept 5, 2016 7:43:45 GMT 10
Those 10L boxes are cardboard, theres a 15L brand water but it's much more per litre than 600ml slabs or the 1.5L 8packs
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Post by Fractus on Sept 5, 2016 15:20:38 GMT 10
My understanding is quick cook oats are easier to digest and if cooking they are quicker so conserve energy. Just need a bit of vit c and good to go with that condensed milk.
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Post by PlanZ on Sept 5, 2016 15:26:54 GMT 10
$5 for 5 days of food - 3 packets of 750g Rolled oats and 1 tin of Coles/cheapo condensed milk = 4.7 days @ 8700kj. Good protein/fat/calcium levels, no cooking required. Will eventually need salt, vit & minerals. $8 for 5 days of water 20L of coles/aldi water in 10L containers $0 for free water Recycled well washed softdrink bottles with tap water kept in the dark. So what do you do? Just mix raw uncooked oats with condensed milk?
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Post by shinester on Sept 5, 2016 19:16:10 GMT 10
Condensed milk is basically somewhat dehydrated milk, that is it has 60% of the water removed and sugar. So yes, if you combine it with water, you'll have a sweet bland breakfast cereal with milk. If you had other ingredients like tinned fruit, it would be quite tasty. I came up with the combination with the requirements of; 'cheap as possible' - $1-1.20/day is insanely cheap! Add in some vitamins and other items and it will be even better. The amount of nutrients that a person requires varies depending on quite a few factors, though 8700kj/day is a good start. 'doesn't need cooking' - they are steamed [cooked] and rolled flat. This is important as grains [all] have enzymes that hinder digestion and will tend to bloat you out and give you gas also. This precooking also allows them to absorb moisture fairly quickly and transforms them into being more palatable. The problem with rice and pasta is that they need to be cooked so that you an absorb their nutrients properly, they are both still great to store if you have an ability to cook them of course. This is all important as we might be in a situation where the smell of cooking might bring people to your door. We also might not have run out of gas, have no electricity etc and be unable to cook. Tinned foods are another option here [and I have lots of them also] though they're also much more expensive relatively. Though it all depends, you might for instance use them all of the time, which would make more sense to store extra. Of course looking at the costing you can see costs that are 11 times that per 1000kj of rolled oats and those prices are for the cheapest items or on special. 'Stores well' Storage times for rolled oats seem to be well over 10 years, though that info is anecdotal as much of this seems to be. I find that recommended storage times are more about being 90-100% of the quality/colour/taste for best by dates, not how long you can safely eat them [probably forever]. I suppose you would be better using oxygen absorbers though I did have some rolled oats my wife is going through that is 4 years old, never stored properly and is still just like new. A couple of multi vitamin tablet would be a good combination to give you your micro-nutrients. ----------- Fractus - that might be true and it certainly turns into a slurry when soaked/cooked. I'm not sure on the storage time for them and my thoughts on that the more together that they are, the longer they will last, though I don't know one way or another. Nor do I yet know the method in which they're made, I would presume very similar to rolled oats and are chopped up in addition. Austemp - You might have a point on the new Aldi ones, are you referring to them? The Coles ones are more durable and they changed the packaging at Aldi a while back, to a thinner design I believe. I have the older Aldi ones stacked 4 high and they do bow out a bit, though none have broken. I might sacrifice one [coles] and see how high I can drop it from before it breaks ha ha just for you bro. I've also had 3 rolling around in the back of my wifes care for 18 months ha.
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Post by myrrph on Sept 5, 2016 19:28:35 GMT 10
I think I have said this before, I cook my oats with boullion (that settles your salt) and some dehydrated vege or beef (that settles _some_ nutrition).
A little bit of boullion goes a long way, even with oats. Might wanna boil the water with the boullion before adding oats. Abit of oats, abit of rice, abit of dried lentils + dehydrated beef with a bit of vege/chicken boullion.
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Post by familyprepper on Sept 6, 2016 10:18:37 GMT 10
Example of eating "raw" rolled Oates is musli bars
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