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Post by SA Hunter on Jan 28, 2015 23:00:30 GMT 10
Thing is Jay, Christian and Jewish people seem to have no issues reading the label and ingredients and knowing what they can and cannot eat. I'm not saying other group can't I have just noticed this to be generally true amongst those groups. Last I heard, Kosher was Jewish, Jay; so they do demand it Not all of course, I worked with a lady who was Jewish, but ate bacon. She was only worried about certification when she had seriously orthodox folks around that she was cooking for. That, or she crossed her fingers when they asked if it was Kosher...... I reckon if folks demanded a label that said "OK for Christians to consume" and it was a viable market, then such labeling would happen. And some chucklehead or other would make a buck of the back of it. Yeah, I see your point of view quite well now - I'll vote "Undecided"!!! But thanks for the explanations!!
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Post by Joey on Mar 31, 2015 12:34:09 GMT 10
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Post by Peter on Aug 17, 2015 13:58:58 GMT 10
It now seems that all Australian sugar is halal certified. Looks like honey sales will increase...
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Post by Matilda on Aug 17, 2015 15:16:17 GMT 10
I believe this is in the UK but eventually it will arrive on our shores. I'm totally opposed to this. This means that the pork producers can no longer offer their products for sale. Once again, a minority demanding their 'rights' over the majority. If you were a pork producer and you won a contract to supply into Subway then the product was pulled out because of 'demands' it can be pretty devastating if a good amount of a farmers income went to supply this product. I remember in Tasmania where McDonalds came into an area and persuaded farmers to grow a particular potato to meet consumer demand. They bought new equipment, planted the new potato and a few years later McDonalds no longer wanted that potato. www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1387503.htmThis is much different. Subway are removing a product, not to save money, but bowing down to bullying halal certifiers. Soon you will not be able to buy pork anywhere if Muslims have their way. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616576/Subway-removes-ham-pork-nearly-200-stores-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html
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Post by Peter on Aug 17, 2015 16:04:56 GMT 10
This is in Australia - our sugar is now all halal certified, with the exception of one "organic dehydrated cane juice" supplier. I'll chase up the link and post it.
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Post by SA Hunter on Aug 17, 2015 19:11:59 GMT 10
What a load of crap!!!!
Ooooh, we must bow to minorities-they might get angry and tell us off, Oooooh (In my best sarcastic Homer Simpson voice)
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Post by Peter on Aug 17, 2015 19:40:05 GMT 10
I've already started looking up how to grow & process sugar-beets, and learning to substitute honey for sugar in a wide range of recipes is soon to follow.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 18:43:05 GMT 10
Hey Frostbite, why should us Christians have to pay a halal tax on food because of a cursed religious belief?
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Post by Matilda on Aug 18, 2015 19:45:33 GMT 10
frostbite - there are thousands of Christians not just being persecuted in these middle eastern countries, but they are being crucified (even babies) , beheaded, skinned and burnt alive not to mention whole swathes of Christian women and young girls being sold into slavery and brutally raped.
The frightening thing is that the left (even politicians in our country) care not what happens to these Christians but are screaming down anyone that brings up that Australia is a target for terrorism. We have the taxpayer funded ABC giving a voice to a known terrorist and stack the audiences to appear that the wider community agrees with this terrorist. I'm not here to preach to you about religion, but I cañ tell you now that there is ONE aim and ONE only aim of Islam. To annilate Israel and the Christian along with them. Ask any Muslim what should happen to Israel. I can tell you what their answer will be and if they think you are 'on to them' they will use taqiyya to lie to you.
This fight has been going on for thousands of years; its not new. But, the ongoing caliphate was curbed around WW1 and has been resumed only in the last few years. Nothing will stop it, but the biggest concern I have is that the ignorance of non- Christians will see them duped into allowing bit by bit for Islam to permeate every aspect of Australian life. This is a method that has been used for thousands of years to infiltrate a country. It got a foothold in Australia when the war in Lebanon raged and the Arab nations opened their prisons as they didn't want these terrorists in their countries. Keating allowed them to come here. They have spent a generation simmering here in Australia and their offspring are the ones fighting with ISIS today. You mention that Muslims are killing each other. If a caliphate was called in Australia, those 'moderate' Muslims would be given a choice. Accept Sharia and join ISIS or suffer a worse fate than the Christians. It's called self preservation.
While the average western family have 2.3 children, Islam encourages more than 1 wife and many children. Osama Bin Laden was one of 56 children. They also encourage living off the 'host' country. For a country to maintain their way of life to support an ageing population and provide health, education, good infrastructure etc., the birth rate of countries must maintain that 2.3 child birth rate per couple. If that birth rate falls below that and Islam rushes in to fill the gap, the culture of that western country is tilted. If a country falls below 1.7%, it is near impossible to turn a country's culture and traditions around. France is sitting at 1.2% which means that in under 7 years, it will be a Muslim country. Their immigration and leftist policies has destroyed their culture and traditions in a matter of just 20 years. There are many other countries where the Muslim birth rate is outstripping those whose family have lived there for hundreds of years. England is not far behind as well as Germany and Norway.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 19:53:40 GMT 10
re-read my post Nobody: because it helps eradicate those that practice that "cursed religious belief". I have read it and i do not agree with it. I am a Bible believing Christian, i would rather see muslims denounce there faith in favor of Christianity and have Salvation in Jesus Christ, not through endless wars and blood letting, which the cursed quran and islam teach.
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Post by Peter on Aug 18, 2015 20:09:10 GMT 10
And here's the preemptive reminder that we show each other respect in this forum...
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