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Post by kenna on Nov 16, 2013 22:29:39 GMT 10
Can anything be done (legally) now to make standard home windows less vulnerable to "breakage"?
I've been looking at the roll down metal shutters but they are a tad pricey. I have three single pane "push up to open" style windows in the front of my home (older cottage) that I am concerned about (nobody is getting in the back or side windows unless they are capable of outrunning a rottweiler!). This may be a "girl" question, but it is a concern as we have a "creep" renting in this area at the moment - I don't go out the front at night now unless I have one of my dogs with me.
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Post by bigredtomatosauce on Nov 17, 2013 0:36:35 GMT 10
I was thinking about this over the last few weeks. I'm considering making up some plywood and sheet metal boards that I can screw into my window frames (made of wood) from the inside. With the boarded up appearance it should hopefully deter people and might at least give me a bit more time to arm up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 8:20:05 GMT 10
I guess it depends on how secure you want them to be and what you want to pay to do so. You can always improve the locks on the windows to increase the security, or try and find some security glass such as IntruderGuard. I've included the link below. www.viridianglass.com.au/products/intruderguard/default.aspx?ProductType=HouseHolderIf this concern is also just a general security concern, rather than a SHTF concern, than there are other simply measures you that can deter criminals. ie Make sure that your blinds are always down when you're not around. Remember, criminals thrive off opportunity and first impressions. If they see your house as an easy target then you may have problems. If they see too many deterrents than you will most likely be fine. |
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Post by Ausprep on Nov 17, 2013 8:50:18 GMT 10
As mentioned above kenna, this is dependent on how far you are willing to go with it. As @vorpal mentioned, are you more concerned with general, everyday security or something that will come into its elements should SHTF. I put 25mm x 25mm weld mesh on the shed windows, now it does not look that great up close but from a few feet back, you can barely see it. Pic taken on Oct 1 when it was done:  Pic taken this morning:  Once the passion fruit's take off, that will be one window that you wont be able to see. One thing you should remember though, if someone wants something, it does not matter how secure it is, they will take it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 9:02:20 GMT 10
Yeah awesome. Having trees in front of windows is a great way to remove interest from prying eyes.
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Post by bigredtomatosauce on Nov 17, 2013 10:58:47 GMT 10
Should specify that my method won't be any good for day to day, only SHTF.
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Post by kenna on Nov 17, 2013 16:17:24 GMT 10
Thank you Wayne, Ryan and bigredtomatosauce - lots of great idea's to look into. The dipsh*t that rents in this area will hopefully move onto greener pastures soon so I will remain wary of him, but it has made me think specifically of SHTF scenario's. The current situation with the dipsh*t (especially after watching American Blackout)has made me more aware of potential weaknesses in this building. Is it legal to put weldmesh panels in the front windows of a house? Or perhaps "pretty" decorative grilles (which would serve the same purpose as weldmesh) would be more acceptable (I'm not sure if there are any anti-fortification regulations in Australia). Otherwise the security glass looks like the go...
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Post by Ausprep on Nov 17, 2013 18:26:48 GMT 10
Thank you Wayne, Ryan and bigredtomatosauce - lots of great idea's to look into. The dipsh*t that rents in this area will hopefully move onto greener pastures soon so I will remain wary of him, but it has made me think specifically of SHTF scenario's. The current situation with the dipsh*t (especially after watching American Blackout)has made me more aware of potential weaknesses in this building. Is it legal to put weldmesh panels in the front windows of a house? Or perhaps "pretty" decorative grilles (which would serve the same purpose as weldmesh) would be more acceptable (I'm not sure if there are any anti-fortification regulations in Australia). Otherwise the security glass looks like the go... Could always paint them pink  |
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Post by kenna on Nov 17, 2013 21:35:30 GMT 10
Thank you Wayne, Ryan and bigredtomatosauce - lots of great idea's to look into. The dipsh*t that rents in this area will hopefully move onto greener pastures soon so I will remain wary of him, but it has made me think specifically of SHTF scenario's. The current situation with the dipsh*t (especially after watching American Blackout)has made me more aware of potential weaknesses in this building. Is it legal to put weldmesh panels in the front windows of a house? Or perhaps "pretty" decorative grilles (which would serve the same purpose as weldmesh) would be more acceptable (I'm not sure if there are any anti-fortification regulations in Australia). Otherwise the security glass looks like the go... Could always paint them pink Yeah, I could even paint them hot pink....... but I think that would be a giveaway that there was no bloke here......would any of you guys let your lady paint window weldmesh pink? LOL |
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 19, 2013 18:31:55 GMT 10
:PYeah screams lady on her own lives right here!
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Post by kenna on Nov 19, 2013 18:43:53 GMT 10
:PYeah screams lady on her own lives right here! So, I'll keep my eyes open for motorcycle parts and biker jackets to hang inside the windows instead..... |
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 19, 2013 19:18:30 GMT 10
Haha and a few empty tins of beer strewn on the lawn! Make the place rough looking!
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Post by Ausprep on Nov 20, 2013 9:41:02 GMT 10
Haha and a few empty tins of beer strewn on the lawn! Make the place rough looking! Funny you mention this, i read an article once that mentioned putting an old pair of work boots at the front door when your not home. Gives the impression someones inside. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 23:06:50 GMT 10
Haha and a few empty tins of beer strewn on the lawn! Make the place rough looking! Funny you mention this, i read an article once that mentioned putting an old pair of work boots at the front door when your not home. Gives the impression someones inside. Haha - never thought of that before. Neat idea, Wayno. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 14:53:57 GMT 10
You could have some simple shutters made from steel and paint them to look like timber! Not PINK...LOL The other suggestions are good as well!!
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Post by alex on Nov 22, 2013 15:38:55 GMT 10
use marine ply , a good long bolt with washers and a piece of 4x2 ,
with your window closed drill a hole through the center of ally where the 2 windows meet effectively going through both frames.
fit your ply to the outside , make sure it over laps your window by about a foot all round and drill your hole to line up with the one in the frame in the center.
then the same with your 4x2 on the inside of your house making sure your 4x2 over laps a good foot past your window put your bolt through and tighten down from the inside.
i seen this on doomsday preppers and it withstood and axe and sledge hammer attack but i would not count on it stopping a good sized round.
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 26, 2013 2:49:47 GMT 10
Kenna, if you have no specific covenants in your suburb then you're good to go at whatever you want as long as it does not present a Danger to the public. IE, Spikes protruding from your windows might be an issue but other than things like this your cool to let rip and start experimenting. Good luck with it.
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Post by kenna on Nov 29, 2013 12:06:38 GMT 10
Thanks nate, I don't think there are any covenants here - I've done a walk around with the dogs and a few people have either the metal roll down shutters or decorative grilles (not many though) so I'm looking for second hand decorative grilles at the moment for the 3 front windows but if that option is a no-go (unavailable or too expensive) then I'll look at reinforcing the glass/replacing the glass with something stronger. (Planning on weldmesh for the back and side windows though) I've been very good - I put big screws through the inside of the window frames (all of them) and I can get the windows open about 2-3 inches or so to let cool breezes in. I'd like to be able to see out of the windows so boarding them up would be a last resort (I feel better if I can see what is going on outside)
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Post by wolfstar on Dec 31, 2013 7:37:51 GMT 10
Funny that, everyone busts my ass for letting the front of my house look as derelict as i can possibly let it, from the street it looks like the sort of house you dont want to break into because the risks outweigh any potential gains  and theres almost always shoes out the front, whether my bf is working or not, so nobody can be sure whether anyones home or not XD im also big on those decorative security screens, and my no. 1 fave home security measure is home surveilance, pretty affordable these days, and its good just to see if anyone is taking more than a passing interest in your home, or lurking about etc  |
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Post by Nex Socius on Dec 31, 2013 20:31:45 GMT 10
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and theres almost always shoes out the front, whether my bf is working or not, so nobody can be sure whether anyones home or not XD im also big on those decorative security screens, and my no. 1 fave home security measure is home surveilance, pretty affordable these days, and its good just to see if anyone is taking more than a passing interest in your home, or lurking about etc 
