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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 8:51:28 GMT 10
Funny to see not much on any of the Prepper/Survival sites about the cyclone considering it is a very real source of info on a "Real" event right here in Oz. We have just spent 3 days prepping our farm for what is to come. It looks like we will cop the very edge of the cyclones outer damaging wind and receive very high rainfall in its wake for a day or two . This will lead to localised flooding after the cyclone has passed. The rain will be heavier towards the cyclones centre. A look at the BOM web site will give you an insight as to what will happen. There has been a lot of panic buying shown on the news. But that always happens. We topped of our cars with fuel on Friday at the local servo and grabbed a few more of the perishable items that we needed. Hard to have these stocked for long term. Having been through over a dozen cyclones in the far north we pretty much have a good routine for getting ready. We have long term prepps and just generally need to do a very small shop as soon as it becomes obvious a cyclone is on its way. Generally we have a few days to get ready. Even then we still see people leave things to the last moment. Given the size of the cyclone (a cat 4 ) the roads south of us will be closed for anywhere up to a week or two depends on damage during and post cyclone. As all our fresh food, fuel and other commodities rely on road and rail to get here and I am sure people will be surprised on how long it takes to get the shops stocked again and rationing will be in affect. It was after Cyclone Yasie went through. Bet you didn't know that. I have been given a movement notice to assist with recovery as part of the QFES Rural Fire Brigade. That will depend on localised damage and flooding down to the cyclone impact site. Having been deployed twice before with a .gov agency on previous cyclone recovery, I have seen the best and worst of people. Its a very real eye opener. We are probably lucky in the sense we have advanced warning and experience of cyclones and we deal with them the best we can. I wonder how some preppers would deal with this given for most people its still all theory. Practise does help a lot. Maybe thats why there are not so many FNQ types on these forums. I will post up anything of interest when I can in the future for anyone that is interested.
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 11:14:27 GMT 10
I live 100km south of Sydney, and we've had flooding for the last fortnight. All sunny here now but ground still very waterlogged. Some roads were cut off for short periods (12hrs or so), entire suburbs isolated. Lots of people unable to get home, lots of damaged houses and cars, one person drowned. (11yr old boy). All too easy for this prepper. We live on a hill, flood proof. Sheltered by the hill behind us from high winds. On the day of the worst rain I saw the roads start flooding and rang the mrs to tell her to leave work early to avoid the road closures. Home safe, her sister's family cut off, 2 of them risked driving thru floodwater to get home, the husband had to find somewhere else to stay. We got heaps of food, a honda 2kva genny, 60l of petrol, four full 9kg gas bottles, candles, torches, gas fridge, gas cooker. Prepping isnt hard. If thats all you have to deal with your lucky. Try getting 2 meters of rain annually. Then you will know about flooding. I personally got 2316 mms of rain for 2015 and that was supposed to be a dry year according to the BOM. I've seen plenty of roofless houses that were built on top of a hill from cyclone damage. The wind can and does change direction. Its not a common practice to build on hill tops up here. When a cyclone hits. Its a waiting game of between 10 - 14 hours. In which you can't do a thing except watch the world fly by. Below is a piece of garden shed that flew from where it was originally (60 meters away) and penetrated a tree. We found it 6 months later when we were doing a clean up of that area. Thats not to mention the tree branches impaled into the ground. You don't go outside in a cyclone. I have spoken to plenty of tourists(australian and oversea's) after a cyclone has past and they are gob smacked at the ferocity of the wind and the devastation left behind. And this is generally where you spend most of your waiting hours. Generally in the dark as they hit very late at night or very early in the morning. In the smallest room in the house. We sat in here for a good part of cyclone Yasi in 2011 with 2 adults and two rottweilers. Notice whats sitting on the washing machine. Its not the washing. And the power is the first to go. We lost it for over a week that time.
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Post by Pasta Deefa on Mar 27, 2017 11:30:15 GMT 10
I also thought it was odd that people weren't discussing it. This is the exact sort of thing I am stocked up for, not the one in a million edge cases. This press release from the state government is pretty motivational to make sure you are squared away in case you ever need to be evacuated. mypolice.qld.gov.au/blog/2017/03/26/evacuation-residents-burdekin-coastal-communities/* Don't bring too much stuff. * Have a plan for your pets * Don't count on getting fed. * Have something to do to keep yourselves occupied. I heard that they are concerned about storm surge flooding low-lying coastal areas and that's why they are pushing so hard for people to leave the area.
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 11:42:36 GMT 10
I also thought it was odd that people weren't discussing it. This is the exact sort of thing I am stocked up for, not the one in a million edge cases. This press release from the state government is pretty motivational to make sure you are squared away in case you ever need to be evacuated. mypolice.qld.gov.au/blog/2017/03/26/evacuation-residents-burdekin-coastal-communities/* Don't bring too much stuff. * Have a plan for your pets * Don't count on getting fed. * Have something to do to keep yourselves occupied. I heard that they are concerned about storm surge flooding low-lying coastal areas and that's why they are pushing so hard for people to leave the area. All good points Pasta. I remember hearing stories from the people that went into a cyclone shelter in Cooktown a few years ago. I was up there on post cyclone clean up. The residents that I spoke to said they will never go into a cyclone shelter again if they could avoid it. They pretty much got locked in and left to there own until the all clear was sounded. Imagine the diversity of cultures in a confined space. They said it was not pleasant. Reinforced my point of staying home. If your on the coast tidal surge is a big problem pre cyclone then the rain comes straight after it passes and doubles the impact.
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 11:45:35 GMT 10
Oh and just on your last point Pasta. "Keep your self occupied" I have down loaded 6 post apocalyptic fiction novels to read. Should keep me busy for a while. On a side note. I wonder how people would deal with a cyclone and a pandemic at the same time. Both not predictable.
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Post by thereth on Mar 27, 2017 12:52:10 GMT 10
I aam notnsure if there are differences between WA and QLD cyclones in terms of strength bht when i was a young fella we had plenty of cyclones in the pilbara region and we all had a fairly laid back attitude to them.
Everyone had the essential supplies already and the biggest run was on the bottleshop before blue alert became yelllow and you are not allowed on the streets anymore.
Do they have that system in QLD? Over here they had a system of Blue alert if the cyclone was 24 hours away, yellow for 12 hours and red for "oh shit, its here"
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Post by graynomad on Mar 27, 2017 13:43:21 GMT 10
I was living in Townsville when cyclone Althea trashed the place, we lost various parts of the house but overall got out of it pretty well unlike many of our neighbours. We would have suffered the same fate I think if we didn't have a door open on the lee side when the lounge room plate glass windows exploded inwards. Not something I particularly want to do again. I hope you guys up north get through it OK.
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Post by Pasta Deefa on Mar 27, 2017 14:06:36 GMT 10
I have down loaded 6 post apocalyptic fiction novels to read. Should keep me busy for a while. You're game. We have a rule in our house about anyone watching reruns of "Air Crash Investigators" 72hr before anyone is due to take a flight. I imagine reading apocalyptic fiction during a natural disaster may fall into that same category.
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 14:44:13 GMT 10
I was living in Townsville when cyclone Althea trashed the place, we lost various parts of the house but overall got out of it pretty well unlike many of our neighbours. We would have suffered the same fate I think if we didn't have a door open on the lee side when the lounge room plate glass windows exploded inwards. Not something I particularly want to do again. I hope you guys up north get through it OK. Building codes have changes significantly since then and continue to get better as long as the builder complies of course. My aunty lived beside the old main airport entrance and she witness a few plains flying around with out pilots. She said she was scared out of her mind. Her house got pretty banged up. We also learned to have the door open on the lee side. Man hole covers in the ceiling is a good sign pressure is building in the roof space as well as your ears popping. We always have window tinting on our windows for glare and head problems in the tropics, also works well with holding the windows in place as well. You can't put tape on them though as my better half found out. From memroy the windows on our last place had to be of a particular wind rating due to the location of the house and surrounding park land.
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 14:51:26 GMT 10
I aam notnsure if there are differences between WA and QLD cyclones in terms of strength bht when i was a young fella we had plenty of cyclones in the pilbara region and we all had a fairly laid back attitude to them. Everyone had the essential supplies already and the biggest run was on the bottleshop before blue alert became yelllow and you are not allowed on the streets anymore. Do they have that system in QLD? Over here they had a system of Blue alert if the cyclone was 24 hours away, yellow for 12 hours and red for "oh shit, its here" Not a colour system. Just lots of warning on the Radio,TV and mobile phones now. As for the cyclones, same, same. Just lucky the North West coast is not as populated as the North East coast. Funny you should mention it but the alcohol is always on the list for a cyclone shop before it arrives. In the past when there is no power, and you can't go anywhere due to fallen powerlines its pretty much drink o'clock. I don't have the problem of power lines just big trees. So its out with the chainsaw and start clearing now. drinks after we finish.
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 15:01:54 GMT 10
Here's a question for you mozzie: can you call yourself a savvy prepper if you choose to live in an area that suffers cyclones and regular flooding? Yep. Putting up with a bad cyclone in QLD beats living in NSW anyday champ.
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 17:08:54 GMT 10
Yep. Putting up with a bad cyclone in QLD beats living in NSW anyday champ. I disagree. We don't get cyclones or crocs or stingers or ross river fever. We can't have folding stocks on our guns, but we can have a .50 cal. Please refer to my signature box for a reply to your comment "TwoDogs"
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Post by mozzie101 on Mar 27, 2017 17:16:18 GMT 10
Here is the latest track map for cyclone "Debbie". No more maps as it is going in where its going in. If anyone is in the affected area. Stay safe and good luck.
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 27, 2017 17:36:32 GMT 10
ausprep.com/thread/3345/storm-safety-informationIn our TEOTWAWKI section under storms/floods there are a few links that may be of use. Anyway, yes, we are keeping an eye on it ( from SA ) - hope all our Qld members are safe and well prepared.
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Post by Beno on Mar 27, 2017 19:40:00 GMT 10
i reckon SEQ is in for a bit ot a pizzling as well. It's trajectory says it will head back out to sea near harvey bay and will possibly intensify again. its then projected to swing back towards the coastline south of brissy. Heavy rain on top of a full catchment could mean flooding for SEQ and northern rivers catchments.
could be a bit of a double whammy for QLD.
good luck mozzie.
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Post by graynomad on Mar 27, 2017 21:30:42 GMT 10
... head back out to sea near harvey bay ... That be near me
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Post by overlord on Mar 27, 2017 22:30:24 GMT 10
How are you, guys? Be safe everyone.
Situations like this are what we also prepare for.
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Post by Joey on Mar 28, 2017 0:58:09 GMT 10
I just drove back home from Brissy today and got here around 11pm. Could see it building up from when I got through Gladdy. Then I hear that my small town is now in the direct inland path of the beast, even though my unit is on the lower side of town, I'm lucky that it is solid concrete and elevated off the street level a enough to avoid any flooding. I'm on call to go help out some friends at Charters way with farm rebuilding if it hits hard out that way, as soon as I can get out there when the road reopen. In the mean time, got my waeco ready and the battery fully charged should power go out, and alternative ways to cook my canned stews and noodles
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Post by Nighthawk on Mar 28, 2017 8:49:13 GMT 10
I'm moving to Mackay next week. My folks and brother and his horde are all there. So far so good. I also have a mate in Bowen who is hunkered down and ready to ride it out.
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Post by blueshoes on Mar 29, 2017 9:10:11 GMT 10
Any updates from anyone? I hope everyone is ok
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