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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 17, 2018 21:20:37 GMT 10
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Post by Peter on Apr 17, 2018 22:22:45 GMT 10
Just to be clear about jerry cans - and please correct me if I'm wrong...
Yellow = diesel
Red = petrol
Blue = water (ie don't put this in your fuel tank0
Green metal = Petrol
Green plastic = 2-stroke
Can anyone advise if plastic or metal jerry cans are best? I've had metal ones rust in the past...
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 17, 2018 22:39:51 GMT 10
I use plastic - only because they are about half the price of metal - I also put in an additive that says the fuel will keep for 20-24 months.
I'm not sure which is better.
And yes, I'm raiding the piggy bank in the morning to buy more fuel and more jerry cans.
I hope & pray this doesn't happen, but better to have too much fuel than none at all.
I guess I have 43 days to prepare even more than I would have normally.
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Post by Beno on Apr 18, 2018 18:26:00 GMT 10
As i understand it 2 weeks of that 43 days is floating reserves, oil or fuel that is on it's way to Australia in ships. those boats would be easy to stop so it's probably more like 29 days of supply before we run out if anyone is serious in disrupting our supply. It's ironic that Australia is awash with all forms of energy except the most strategic one, oil. When i see miles and miles of sheep lined up in traffic all with just the driver in the car i just shake my head and say why.
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Post by Peter on Apr 18, 2018 19:23:30 GMT 10
I grabbed a few 20L red plastic jerry cans at Bunnings in Melville today - $13 bucks each (down from $29.95). Unfortunately they had no yellow ones (for diesel), but I'll try other stores tomorrow.
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Post by spinifex on Apr 18, 2018 20:10:52 GMT 10
Just to be clear about jerry cans - and please correct me if I'm wrong... Yellow = diesel Red = petrol Blue = water (ie don't put this in your fuel tank0 Green metal = Petrol Green plastic = 2-stroke Can anyone advise if plastic or metal jerry cans are best? I've had metal ones rust in the past... I have a few ex DD metal cans with date stamps back as far as 1957. Replaced the rubber seals and they work great. I Never use additive; just make sure the cans are ultra full (minimal airspace). I've used petrol that's several years old in this way and it works fine. Diesel I turn over regularly as I hear stories about it being messed up by bacteria. |
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Post by Peter on Apr 18, 2018 20:22:29 GMT 10
That's good to know.
At work we have a couple of metal jerry cans that were bought in preparation for the Millennium Bug. They're quite rusted, but don't have any apparent leaks.
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Post by spinifex on Apr 19, 2018 17:44:14 GMT 10
I know a bloke who has converted an old 250 litre hot water pressure vessel into a fuel storage tank. Cost him a bit of time and about $30 worth of fittings. Bit tricky to fill but getting fuel out is easy as its gravity fed. Bonus is it still looks like a hot water unit so it's well camouflaged.
In a similar vein I've read of a Bosnian bloke smuggling fuel inside the tyres of a tractor. Dunno if its a long term storage option though.
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Post by Morgo on Apr 19, 2018 17:55:59 GMT 10
So what happened to that find of oil in the Arckaringa Basin around Coober Pedy?
From memory they were saying we would have more oil than all of Saudi Arabia.
So why aren't we digging that up, refining it and becoming self sufficient as a country in the oil sector? (let me guess, probably because that would cost money to do even though its better for the country and our countries security in the long run, the government is just a bunch of tight ass penny pinching thieves)
If we did though we would never have to worry about off shore fuel supplies again.
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Post by spinifex on Apr 19, 2018 18:58:09 GMT 10
I gather there is currently a lot of study going on to determine possible impacts of fracking on groundwater.
Probably we should have much more transport geared for running on LPG of which we have plenty of cheap and easy to get. (And which, so they say, can be bought in Japan for less than we pay for it here.) Our gas export/home use policies are messed up.
We do have heaps of uranium too ... time to start a micro-nuclear industry in oz? Nuclear powered trucks, trains, tractors and mining equipment!
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Post by Morgo on Apr 19, 2018 19:14:05 GMT 10
We do have heaps of uranium too ... time to start a micro-nuclear industry in oz? Nuclear powered trucks, trains, tractors and mining equipment! Just as long as none of those vehicles goes over 88mph!  |
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Post by fei on Apr 19, 2018 20:29:19 GMT 10
We do have heaps of uranium too ... time to start a micro-nuclear industry in oz? Nuclear powered trucks, trains, tractors and mining equipment! Trains and some mining equipment are already electrically powered, so I guess they could be nuclear-powered if there was a nuke power station. If the east coast fast train passenger line ever gets built, you could substantially cut down on the need for av-gas as well...I believe the Sydney-Melbourne air route is the busiest in the country. The proposed fast train is offering this route in around three hours; which is pretty much what it takes by air once check-in etc times are factored in. |
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Post by grumble on Apr 19, 2018 21:12:35 GMT 10
So what happened to that find of oil in the Arckaringa Basin around Coober Pedy? From memory they were saying we would have more oil than all of Saudi Arabia. So why aren't we digging that up, refining it and becoming self sufficient as a country in the oil sector? (let me guess, probably because that would cost money to do even though its better for the country and our countries security in the long run, the government is just a bunch of tight ass penny pinching thieves) If we did though we would never have to worry about off shore fuel supplies again. Two things happened there
1. Quite expensive to recover but if oil is over $100 a barrel then it would be financially viable
2. The federal government made a deal not to extract it and export it. Yeah one of those behind the scenes crap on the average Australian type of deals that doesn't get front page coverage because hey why would we want 50 cents a litre fuel and make us less reliant on international consortiums
just like they signed a deal with the US and UN to be a non arms exporting nation so the US sent over its advisors to supervise the destruction of the lathes and equipment that was used to manufacture heavy weapons Just when the Australian small arms manufacturing was about to take off the shut the door mind you I was able to buy a lovely Australian made AK Meagun with a sportster kit and spare 30 round mags for $300 because the batch made for the USm arket was blocked by the arms agreement
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Post by Morgo on Apr 19, 2018 21:24:13 GMT 10
Yeah that sounds about right.
Though the deal about a non arms exporting nation must have changed seeing as we export arms these days.
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 19, 2018 23:49:39 GMT 10
...and petrol just went up .15c litre at home - now $1.54.9
Watch this space.
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 22, 2018 23:45:49 GMT 10
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Post by WolfDen on Apr 23, 2018 9:51:17 GMT 10
I personally think this story coming up lately in the media is just a bunch of fear mongering. Though, still concerned that we don't have a larger stock of reserve fuels in Australia. I am glad that I own a trucking company and have access to large amounts of diesel for personal use.  |
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Post by WolfDen on Apr 23, 2018 12:05:07 GMT 10
I personally think this story coming up lately in the media is just a bunch of fear mongering. Though, still concerned that we don't have a larger stock of reserve fuels in Australia. I am glad that I own a trucking company and have access to large amounts of diesel for personal use. That's the upside. The downdide is your business and I assume your financial security depends on fuel availability. Yes, of course, a fuel crisis would affect that business. But thankfully I don't have all my eggs in one basket. |
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Post by Peter on Apr 23, 2018 19:59:04 GMT 10
It's not just a case of personal problems in a fuel shortage.
If there is a major fuel shortage, NO-ONE will have fuel.
People won't get to work. Shops won't be restocked. Hospital staff won't be able to get to work. Emergency services won't operate. Workers who maintain our water, gas, electricity and sewage services won't get to work. Banks won't operate. Government departments will be stuffed.
As a nation we are completely and utterly dependent upon oil-based fuel for transporting everyone and everything. I can't overstate the extent of the problems that will arise if there's no fuel left.
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Post by SA Hunter on Apr 23, 2018 21:20:31 GMT 10
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