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Post by tomatoes on Mar 28, 2020 11:03:05 GMT 10
Grumble is pretty much spot on. My considerations Price - Had to be at or under $1k. It would be rarely used, so no need for a top of the line generator Capacity - Take the biggest load you need and triple it. You'll need this to cover inrush current. In my case the biggest load is the fridge. This sets the lower limit at 2kVA. Air Conditioning - This is generally too big to run on a genny unless you buy a very big model or are running a battery. Portability - Must be a one man carry/drag. Fuel - I chose petrol so as not to have to store two fuel types. But if you have a diesel car, definitely get a diesel genny. Use - Mine is to cover temporary outages or to run for a few hours per day to let the fridge run. If your intent is 24/7, get a more expensive one. I also plan to add a battery, for which the genny would be a top-up, not base load. This is pretty similar to my needs.
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Post by grumble on Mar 28, 2020 11:05:49 GMT 10
Has anyone tried a Cromtech generator? The reviews for the Cromtech brumby 3.0 are good. While I realise a Honda or one of the more expensive ones will be better/last longer, that is just not in the budget at the moment. One was delivered to my house yesterday. Will let you know how it goes. can you let us know what country it was made in? i suspect the brumbys are made in china as a whole unit rather then assembled in Australia with imported parts this makes a difference on end build quality little things like brass bushes rather than nylon bushes and better quality bolts which is handy if you have to strip it down
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Post by tomatoes on Mar 28, 2020 11:15:04 GMT 10
We have a little bit of solar (like a camping set up) but not enough, especially if it’s cloudy. I just want something for an occasional top up or appliance. I have manual backups for almost all appliances but it would be convenient to be able to use one for 5-10 min a day, so not much.
We also have very little room. We’re in a temporary rental between houses so not ideal.
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Post by bug on Mar 28, 2020 11:16:23 GMT 10
One was delivered to my house yesterday. Will let you know how it goes. can you let us know what country it was made in? i suspect the brumbys are made in china as a whole unit rather then assembled in Australia with imported parts this makes a difference on end build quality little things like brass bushes rather than nylon bushes and better quality bolts which is handy if you have to strip it down I'd say China.
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Post by grumble on Mar 28, 2020 11:33:06 GMT 10
just one thing on the diesel vs petrol genny
honestly if you need a small unit for light to general use buy a petrol unit unless you spend big dollars on a small diesel unit i say that because ive witnessed 1st hand many a time the small cheap diesel units fail they quite often shake themselves to bits , over heat , and just crap out way to soon not to mention quite often are problematic to get started
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Post by tomatoes on Mar 28, 2020 12:55:48 GMT 10
One was delivered to my house yesterday. Will let you know how it goes. can you let us know what country it was made in? i suspect the brumbys are made in china as a whole unit rather then assembled in Australia with imported parts this makes a difference on end build quality little things like brass bushes rather than nylon bushes and better quality bolts which is handy if you have to strip it down Description says China But they do get very good reviews.
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Post by bug on Mar 28, 2020 14:29:09 GMT 10
can you let us know what country it was made in? i suspect the brumbys are made in china as a whole unit rather then assembled in Australia with imported parts this makes a difference on end build quality little things like brass bushes rather than nylon bushes and better quality bolts which is handy if you have to strip it down Description says China But they do get very good reviews. That's why I bought it. Couldn't get a decent one for under $1k from anywhere else. The only bad review of it that I could find was by someone who was clearly trying to run far too high a load from it (dam pumps etc) then complaining that it wouldn't work. Remember folks, electric motors will draw around 3x normal power for a few seconds when they start up. This is enough to trip off a generator.
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Post by tomatoes on Mar 29, 2020 17:12:42 GMT 10
Has anyone tried a Cromtech generator? The reviews for the Cromtech brumby 3.0 are good. While I realise a Honda or one of the more expensive ones will be better/last longer, that is just not in the budget at the moment. One was delivered to my house yesterday. Will let you know how it goes. I don’t suppose you’ve fired it up yet?
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Post by bug on Jan 3, 2022 16:27:35 GMT 10
One was delivered to my house yesterday. Will let you know how it goes. I don’t suppose you’ve fired it up yet? I fired it up a few times recently. It had no trouble running the place, fridge includes. The only thing is I told my partner not to turn on the air con. The starting current on that motor would definitely trip the generator. It works just fine. Starting involved a lot of swearing, so I'll be starting it every couple of months to make sure it's ok. There are a couple of 'made in china' crap parts, such as the recess where the starting handle sits being made of crappy plastic. I let go of the handle and when it retracted, it punched straight through the plastic. Didn't affect the operation, just annoying. I like the fact that it's got both 240V and USB ports on it.
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Post by Tim Horton on Jan 7, 2022 13:25:36 GMT 10
We got our portable a couple years ago now.. I don't recall the numbers for size, load and such.. One person can handle moving it, hook it up to fuel and an appliance as needed.. It is dual fuel.. Propane and gas with battery start.. We have never needed it for an outage, but of course have run it several times.. We have never used gas in it, always propane.. I do like the propane option as it is easy to keep a quantity of tanks on hand..
It has all the usual switches and outlets it seems.. It also has an "RV" outlet that is 120Vx30A.. I have a converter plug ($8) to step it down to 120Vx15A.... One more useful outlet..
Multiple reasons for getting this model is we got our rebate check from our Costco spending for the year and for using our Costco credit card rebate.. The generator was a Costco product and only about $50 out of pocket more than the check, so it was essentially close to free... Besides doubling down on our credit card bonus dollars.. I have never looked close, but would suspect it is a China product... Then again for the price, what can I say...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 12:26:48 GMT 10
We have been using a Yamaha EF3000iSe ( global.yamaha-motor.com/business/pp/generator/lineup/220v-60hz/1-3/ef3000ise/ ) for about a year now, and have been impressed so far. It's inverter type so no worries about dirty power damaging appliances, though it is only 3kW. This does mean it is single person portable (67kg) and very quiet in operation. Good for low profile "bugging in" on a smaller acreage with neighbours in sight. We also went electric start since my elderly parents are on site, it needed to be something either of them can start if I am out of action. The following has been the test load: - 501 litre fridge only (Westinghouse WRB5004SA) - 700 litre chest freezer (Westinghouse WCM7000WD) With a wattmeter constantly inline, the largest usage spike I have seen is 850 watts, though I predict a momentary load on start up that could double or triple that. I was quite surprised at the low draw given the size of the units involved, but they are only a couple of years old and the fridge unit is "fridge only" with no freezer compartment. This means it is feasible to run the fridge and freezer and have capacity spare for running laptops and device charging once the load settles down. The one potential issue we have spotted is that although the electric start battery is 12v, and the inverter has 12v output, it doesn't self charge this battery. It needs to be manually charged and maintained. Of course it has regular pull start also, but this could be a "gotcha" for anyone who just skims the instructions and doesn't go looking to download the full documentation/spec sheets. I can't fault it in use though, it is quiet enough (51db according to specs) to run 24/7 in suburbia without annoying neighbours, but they will know it is running. In a small acreage setting is where it really shines though, a neighbour 100 meters away would hear nothing. Pricewise... well, it's an inverter so how many kidneys do you need? If you can find this model in stock it will be around $4000. (We have a usage preference for inverter that is not discussed in this post)
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Post by tactile on Jan 8, 2022 17:05:48 GMT 10
Interesting to see that Yamaha don't sell their natural gas powered one anymore...must of not sold many of them. That would of been the one I would of used - no fuel stability issues. Unless there was something else going wrong with them ie. gas waxing like LPG car system can do...Anyone know if natural gas has any issues for long term as a fuel?
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Post by grumble on Jan 8, 2022 20:08:23 GMT 10
Interesting to see that Yamaha don't sell their natural gas powered one anymore...must of not sold many of them. That would of been the one I would of used - no fuel stability issues. Unless there was something else going wrong with them ie. gas waxing like LPG car system can do...Anyone know if natural gas has any issues for long term as a fuel? Economic reasons pretty much LNG and LPG generators hardly sell in Australia so the big guys stick with what does sell there are still the odd one like these around www.elgas.com.au/appliances/lpg-clothes-dryers-lpg-refrigerators-lpg-generators/lpg-generators/greengear-generator.html
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