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Post by herbgarden on Mar 5, 2020 7:01:46 GMT 10
I know it's still probably early days yet but given the recent events with catastophic fires, floods and now pandemic threats what have you learned?
Is there anything you will change in your prepping going forward?
Stock more of a certain item? Stock less of another?
Updated how you store of preps?
Change your daily habits?
Talk more with friends and family about being prepared?
Changed your readiness level for bugging in/out/stocking up or priority level of last minute preps? Etc.
With supermarket shelves being cleared of certain items with panic buying it's one thing to know of it being a potential and another seeing it first hand, city wide and state-wide in some instances. There was a fairly slow responses to limited buying by stores and if push comes to shove is the average checkout person going to stand up to someone aggressive with a shopping cart full of limited items? People panic shopping in a just in case scenario verus how much worse it would be in a SHTF situation is a little more...real.
In a few months if/when everything settles down without a pandemic people will have a glut of items, and may not buy toilet paper, panadol, rice, breans, etc. for a few months possibly even years.
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Post by norseman on Mar 5, 2020 7:42:15 GMT 10
I know it's still probably early days yet but given the recent events with catastophic fires, floods and now pandemic threats what have you learned?
Is there anything you will change in your prepping going forward?
Stock more of a certain item? Stock less of another?
Updated how you store of preps?
Change your daily habits?
Talk more with friends and family about being prepared?
Changed your readiness level for bugging in/out/stocking up or priority level of last minute preps? Etc.
With supermarket shelves being cleared of certain items with panic buying it's one thing to know of it being a potential and another seeing it first hand, city wide and state-wide in some instances. There was a fairly slow responses to limited buying by stores and if push comes to shove is the average checkout person going to stand up to someone aggressive with a shopping cart full of limited items? People panic shopping in a just in case scenario verus how much worse it would be in a SHTF situation is a little more...real.
In a few months if/when everything settles down without a pandemic people will have a glut of items, and may not buy toilet paper, panadol, rice, breans, etc. for a few months possibly even years.
Some Key Takeaways:- 1) Running out and buying tons more "shit" doesn't necessarily deliver an upgrade to your security!! 2) Effective Situational Awareness is worth more than 250 kgs of stored rice! 3) An Oldy but a Goldy! Believe nothing that Politicians, Government Employees or MSM tell you! It's always agenda driven, corrupt or an outright lie!! 4) If it's safe to do so go look for yourself! 5) If you see the masses running in a certain direction then consider escaping at 90 degrees to their direction of travel! Hundreds of POW's on the Bataan Death March and the Burma Railway survived by doing this (an analogy)!! |
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Post by Joey on Mar 5, 2020 7:51:52 GMT 10
In a few months if/when everything settles down without a pandemic people will have a glut of items, and may not buy toilet paper, panadol, rice, breans, etc. for a few months possibly even years.
Hopefully this will mean more sales on these product lines once people aren't buying them for a little while once the shops get their supply lines back to normal and will have excess stock hoping the hoarding would continue and get caught with more stock then they normally carry
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Post by frostbite on Mar 5, 2020 8:11:22 GMT 10
The bushfire and corona crisis has caused me to do an honest self assessment of my preparedness for short term events, and provided the opportunity to see how my children and spouse react.
I found I was more geared for bugging out than in, relying more on procuring fresh meat by hunting than storing meat at home (apart from approx 60 meals of dehydrated beef and chicken). I now consider this plan to be less than ideal for a home quarantine situation, so have increased the amount of meat I keep at home. I'm planning for a home quarantine significantly longer than the 14 days the gooberment (copyright Norseman) recommend.
The mrs has really got on board with prepping because of the corona scare. She actively supports my prepping at the moment. My two adult children are both very capable and have independent minds, and both still think the current crises is a non event. I prep for them so they don't have to.
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Post by dadbod on Mar 5, 2020 8:20:12 GMT 10
I like how everyone is talking about it and hopefully becoming more prepared/resiliant. it has shown me how little the general public think about it.
Regardless of supply chain policies for just in time supply, you should never be caught short of nonperishables inside 3 months. people are complaining about having two toilet rolls left. I dont know how people lived with that prior to this. what if they had gastro and couldnt go out.
i also find it very interesting that the panic buying is so shallow. my local bunnings had a stocked shelf of bidet appliances, whilst the supermarkets are picked clean of toilet paper. also people thinking that they are going to bake bread without ever baking before.
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Post by grumble on Mar 5, 2020 9:13:08 GMT 10
What have i learned from this?
Not to much to be truthful apart from i was surprised a little how much WHO dragged its heels on stating the obvious
apart from that the government has acted the way i thought it would by following a course of gradual information dispersion so it has a better uptake by the general public
The reasons for having preps for real world probable situations such as this work as an effective buffer
I've always prepped for what I've classed as real world probable situations like a major disruption to supply chain , global recession , loss of employment , long term illness or localized natural disaster.
like everyone i have weak points and strong points to my plan nothing is perfect to think so is dangerous
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Post by milspec on Mar 5, 2020 10:17:23 GMT 10
1. .gov will treat people like children in an emergency.
2. People are more stupid than I thought.
3. WHO & authorities in general prioritise calming vague language over dissemination of facts.
4. We must locate decent news/facts sources independent of the MSM.
5. Politicians (USA, China, Iran) will put their nations at risk while maintainig their party political & face saving agendas.
6. Agencies we ought to be able to trust, can't be relied upon ( US CDC, WHO)
7. You can lead a horse (sheeple friends) to water but you can't make them drink.
Things I added to preps:
1. Boosted overall holdings
2. Added fingertip pulse oxy meter so We can avoid heading to doc until necessary
3. Partner increased her thyroid meds supply to 18 months.
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Post by frostbite on Mar 5, 2020 13:00:44 GMT 10
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Post by norseman on Mar 5, 2020 13:15:25 GMT 10
It just further validates the fact these fukktards just make it up as they go along!! |
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Post by Nex Socius on Mar 5, 2020 17:48:54 GMT 10
I’ve been living in Western Sydney for 5 years. Before Sydney, I lived in country Vic, and always had my bushfire plans and bug out options. Not once did I get some good filter masks though (I had basic dust masks byt not for smoke). I have learnt that with my shitty lungs, I should always have a decent filter mask on hand and not be shy to wear it in public. The smoke was so bad that it came inside the shopping center where I work. So I will endeavor to have a spare mask in my workplace just incase I forget or lose one (same as asthma meds). My household is ok-ish at the moment, but my food stores are lower than I like. I have TP LOL. I wish hubby was on board with this a bit more, but whatever I buy he doesn’t question me which is good  |
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 5, 2020 18:19:24 GMT 10
1. Having something specific to prep for has assisted in getting a few more items to add to my supply.
2. The Govt is panicking - whenever they say they have things under control, it means they have no control whatsoever. Believing the Govt is like believing there's plenty of hot water in the showers at Aushwitz.
3. This thing is worse than the flu, and the death rate is a lot higher too - be good to invest in an undertakers business right now.
4. The Mrs, who has always been anti prepping, is now telling everyone they need a minimum 2 weeks of food and supplies "Just in case".
5. In my morbid way, I take daily jaunts to the local supermarkets to watch people panic when there is no toilet paper, rice or pasta (like today at our local Foodland).
6. Alas, I still can't convince the Mrs I need a new gun.
7. I need to get my bol finished in a hurry, in case I need to go there for an extended time.
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Post by frostbite on Mar 5, 2020 18:25:54 GMT 10
Quote: . Alas,I still can't convince the Mrs I need a new gun.
My evil plan, which worked perfectly, was to invite a mutual female friend with a dominant personality to come for a girls weekend at my retreat. She wanted to have a shoot, so I said she would need to get a licence. Next thing I know she has booked herself and my mrs in for the safety course. Now they both have AB licence, and my mrs says we need more guns now that both of us shoot.
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Post by bug on Mar 5, 2020 18:36:19 GMT 10
In a few months if/when everything settles down without a pandemic people will have a glut of items, and may not buy toilet paper, panadol, rice, breans, etc. for a few months possibly even years.
Hopefully this will mean more sales on these product lines once people aren't buying them for a little while once the shops get their supply lines back to normal and will have excess stock hoping the hoarding would continue and get caught with more stock then they normally carry Exactly what I've been saying. Wait for the specials, then buy. |
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Post by frontsight on Mar 5, 2020 18:41:04 GMT 10
4. The Mrs, who has always been anti prepping, is now telling everyone they need a minimum 2 weeks of food and supplies "Just in case". 6. Alas, I still can't convince the Mrs I need a new gun. Even after panicking about supermarket having no stock and ppl have gone crazy, my Mrs and most of my family still think I over reacted.... What over reacting, I go to supermarket to buy beer and grilled chicken, not to fight with them over toliet paper.... And nope, not another gun neither, she said I can buy another if I could find space in the safe, but I can't upgrade my safe..... |
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Post by jo on Mar 5, 2020 18:46:12 GMT 10
Things I have learned:
1. As prepared as I am to get flooded in /evacuation due to bushfires / local disaster / local pandemic (gastro, flu, other disease) in reality not prepared for widespread panic (although now have a better grip).
2. Have realised that will have to prep better if family are planning to come to stay (previously had preps in the event of being “inconvenienced “ for a couple of days to a week).
3. Starting now need to organise meds better (buy every 3 months even if I don’t need it) rather than buying when I have 3 months left.
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Post by frontsight on Mar 5, 2020 19:23:28 GMT 10
I have learnt
1) sheeple either don't worry at all or in full panic mode, very few learn from close calls....
2) Sheeple are normal people, they can be your partner, your parents, best friends.... In my eyes they maybe unwise but far from evil/retarded
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Post by bce1 on Mar 5, 2020 19:53:15 GMT 10
1.Transient smugness when the public started to panic - change to quiet despair as has gone on.
2.Misinformation from reliable sources
3.Panicking government as described above
4. Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
5. Genuine anxiety about pandemics - not this particular one - I am under 50 and no heath problems beyond being 10-15kg overweight. Sounds stupid but an enemy you cannot see is scarier than one which isn’t.
6. Revisiting how much is to much and how much do you carry purely to share?
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Post by jo on Mar 5, 2020 20:44:45 GMT 10
1.Transient smugness when the public started to panic - change to quiet despair as has gone on. 2.Misinformation from reliable sources 3.Panicking government as described above 4. Dunning-Kruger effect in action. 5. Genuine anxiety about pandemics - not this particular one - I am under 50 and no heath problems beyond being 10-15kg overweight. Sounds stupid but an enemy you cannot see is scarier than one which isn’t. 6. Revisiting how much is to much and how much do you carry purely to share? So you have done some prepping as you have a classification of being “over weight “you stand a better chance than the “normal weight peeps |
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Post by wanderer on Mar 5, 2020 21:45:35 GMT 10
In a possible shtf scenario like a pandemic, the sheeple are more worried about wiping their asses with toilet paper. Absolute phenomenal reaction. I went to the stupid markets today for a look, and yep the shelves had been stripped bare, even the paper towel and tissue paper was fair game.
I mean when you take a step back and look at that mental behavior, its "oh no the world might end soon, quick get some toilet paper!".
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Post by herbgarden on Mar 8, 2020 13:41:42 GMT 10
I wonder if people will want to keep more items on hand now or if nothing catastophic eventuates people will just shrug their shoulders say it was a waste of time because nothing happened and go back to life before toilet paper almost became currency.
It is easy to want to do something when there is a perceived threat but harder to maintain the desire to keep at it particularly when friends, family, coworkers and people in general label you as a doomsday prepper for having at least two weeks of food, water and general supplies put away. If the new norm (well not new but new for some people) will be better prepared for various situations will it become a new social norm as people keep posting about their well stock and well organised pantries and emergency supplies and interest increases?
Listening to people at work sneering about anyone buying more food or toilet paper really makes me wonder what they consider a normal amount of items in their own homes. While I don't think people need to go to the hysteria that it has been with shelves constantly cleared out and random people getting abused or assaulted. If everyone went back to buying (or growing or making) a few extra items every shopping trip and that was normal then maybe, just maybe, next time there is an emergency it won't come to that extreme quite so quickly. More prolonged situations will always escalate but the level of panic buying and hysteria being promoted in social media and mass media is mind boggling and unfortuantely, contagious.
The last two years or so we have watched around the world (or experienced in some cases) avian flu, swine flu, ebola, SARS, zika virus, localised gastro outbreaks, volcanic erruptions, catastophic floods, catastophic fires, mud slides, tornados, plane crashes, earthquakes, tsunamis, mass job losses and financial crashes in some countries, locust swarms, dust storms, drought & terrorist attacks to name a few off the top of my head and corona virus was the catalyst to panic? Was is the straw that broke the camels back or is it so much more threatening than the "normal" bushfires and floods?
I think I will post a few things I have learned in another post or this will become TLDR.
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