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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 8, 2020 23:56:28 GMT 10
So, in less than 2 months, the US holds it's Presidential election.
Who wins?
Why?
What happens if Trump wins?
What happens if Biden wins?
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bug
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Post by bug on Sept 9, 2020 9:06:12 GMT 10
Trump.
Democrats allowing the burning of city centers will scare many republican or fence sitters to vote when they normally wouldn't.
If the racist BLM crowd weren't out rioting, Trump wouldn't have a chance.
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Post by milspec on Sept 9, 2020 17:54:31 GMT 10
Trump wins eventually.
Ordinary people are shocked by how crazy left Dems have become and how much they've allowed violence to spread.
When Trump wins (after the extended interference & uncertainty phase) he makes more progress on supporting US economic policies. China recognises it faces an unapologetic US leader and backs down and waits for another Democrat president. Trade deals get cut in the mean time.
If Bidens minions round up supplementary postal votes in the marginal swing states to turn the election then you get prospects for right wing civil unrest if the left tries to undermine the constitution / 2nd amendment. China takes Taiwan.
I could see China & Russia fanning the flames to promote civil unrest in the US in order to distract the US from foreign affairs.
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Post by Joey on Sept 9, 2020 19:20:45 GMT 10
Trump wins again and the left goes into full meltdown down which would make the current riots look like kindergarten.
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Post by Stealth on Sept 9, 2020 21:26:57 GMT 10
If Trump wins, there's riots because the far left is pissed but the military gets sent out to squash it. I believe "LAW AND ORDER!" was his tweet.
If Biden wins, there's riots because the far right are pissed but cops aren't allowed to intervene and the military probably won't be involved because it'd set all the rabid leftists into a tailspin.
I'll say one thing. When you have a current president saying that he won't accept voting results if he doesn't win no matter what the scenario, you don't have a presidency. You have a dictatorship.
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Post by bug on Sept 10, 2020 9:14:05 GMT 10
People complain about our political system, but it's a hell of a lot better than the American one. They have a real 2 party system, where to vote for anyone other than Rep/Dem really does waste your vote. In Australia we have about 10 different parties with sitting MPs. The preferential system allows you to vote for who you really want, then put LibLab last and 2nd last.
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Post by sonic on Sept 12, 2020 1:45:31 GMT 10
I also think Donald Trump will win. The republicans have done what the Conservatives did over here and allowed the left to do all the shouting and railing and sat quietly on the side with a humungous smile on their faces. The left lost spectacularly and I don't see the Democrats doing any better for the same reasons.
The left has started to underestimate the sensibilities and intelligence of the average citizen and assume we all think like their 2%.
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 12, 2020 4:42:16 GMT 10
I think Trump will win. Why because I think the American people are more frightened of the violence knocking at the front door than they are Trump as President.
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Post by spinifex on Sept 12, 2020 8:03:41 GMT 10
Who is Joe Biden? LMAO.
It doesn't matter who 'wins'. The Prez is just a 'spokesperson'.
So many US 'politicians' come from a career in Hollywood for a good reason: they take direction on how to act.
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Post by shinester on Sept 12, 2020 12:05:54 GMT 10
Here's a fun one, Trump in the polls and the postal votes get highjacked and obviously interfered with leading to the speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi to become the next prez during the civil war that follows. Just to be sure the aliens lizardmen from mars take over.
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Post by bushdoc2 on Sept 12, 2020 15:11:58 GMT 10
I'll say one thing. When you have a current president saying that he won't accept voting results if he doesn't win no matter what the scenario, you don't have a presidency. You have a dictatorship. Didn't Hillary suggest Biden ought to do just that? (As well as last election, telling illegals immigrants to go and vote...) |
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Post by bug on Sept 12, 2020 15:47:42 GMT 10
The US is a weird place when it comes to immigration.
"Build the wall!". There already is a wall build by previous administrations. All Trump was going to do is fill in the big gaps that it has.
You can get a job, go to school etc. as an illegal immigrant. Give a fake social security number to your employer and you are in. (Just no tax refund). Schools don't require proof of citizenship to enrol.
You can literally walk over 90% of the US border with Mexico and Canada with nothing to stop you.
Stay long enough and have a child in a US hospital and they get automatic citizenship. There are even tours from China especially for this. At around 5 months pregnant, you book the tour, go shopping, relax, then show up with an 'unexpected pregnancy' at a US hospital. Born on US soil, your child gets citizenship. Eventually you can too.
It's a joke of a system. Most powerful nation on earth and it has an immigration system that has barely changed since the 1800s. Trump wants to do something about this and so do his supporters. The Dems just do not understand how pissed most Americans are with the open door immigration system.
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Post by Joey on Sept 12, 2020 19:41:11 GMT 10
Found this chart off a US forum that was taken from an antifa page for different roles people can take up during the "protests" I image we will see a bit more of the "mostly peaceful protests" closer to the election and afterwards.  |
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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 12, 2020 22:13:36 GMT 10
I'm not sure who will win - the last election I expected Hillary to win, and the world to go to hell in a hurry.
Now, I just don't know. I did hear that the last election less than 50% of eligible voters turned up to vote.
I think with the riots, more people will turn up to vote, and possibly for Trump. I think the media attacks on him will be relentless, and I can see him doing or saying something to destroy his chances of re-election.
If Trump wins, then there will be more riots and protests, and people will get sick of this, and retaliate, then it will all be Trumps fault!
If Biden wins, he'll be gone in no time, stepping down due to health reasons, then the far socialist Left will take over, and then the right will protest!
Either way, it will be ugly.
Not sure about a 'Civil War", more ideology against ideology. Some more conservative states may break from the US, and form their own state/nation. Then I see the Army being called in, who I don't think will fire on their own, so in come the UN and "Peacekeepers" to bring these rebel states into line. Then it will be on. I can only see this happening if Biden wins.
Then again, some states may 'break away' if Trump wins - California, Washington State etc.
What worries me the most, is what other nations will do when the US is in turmoil - China, North Korea, possibly Russia. Arab nations may go for each others throats, Iran may attack Israel, then it will be on!
Get your brooms ready, because I think there will shortly be a huge mess!
I hope I'm wrong, but..........
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Post by bug on Sept 13, 2020 12:01:21 GMT 10
It's an amazing situation that a person as detestable as Trump is the safer choice in an election for the most powerful man on earth.
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Post by spatial on Sept 13, 2020 12:10:00 GMT 10
Trump wins then postal vote fraud and endless vote counting and the dems fanning the flames civil unrest.
High probability Trump assassinated - the deep state cant deal with him anymore.
Also high probability the deep state crash the stock market to take Trump down.
Very high probability western civil society unravels before the end of the year.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 29, 2020 4:38:30 GMT 10
Many US local locations reporting mail in ballots found in dumpsters and other disposals, overwhelmingly votes for Trump.. It would seem this could not happen without interference from inside the postal system along the way somewhere.. ??
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We have had out own "events" also.. Trudeau suspended parliament, until his liberals and the NDP, and possibly others, struck a new sweet heart deal to keep the majority, then all normal again, nothing to see here... Not good, but at least not the expense of a federal election at this time.
Our province did the same.. But it appears there will be the expense of a vote. Seemingly the party in power thinks they can get votes to stay in power without the help of the other parties they needed to get into power this last election...
The whole of North America is going to suffer one way or another here it seems for a while..
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Post by norseman on Sept 29, 2020 7:37:19 GMT 10
If Trump wins hopefully he will send a massive formation of US troops to Oz and liberate the Australian People from their oppressors!
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Post by frostbite on Sept 29, 2020 13:22:45 GMT 10
If Trump wins hopefully he will send a massive formation of US troops to Oz and liberate the Australian People from their oppressors! And I'll swap a weekend hunt, a night with Susan and a case of VB with a Marine q'ey for some goodies. |
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Post by shinester on Oct 1, 2020 15:04:27 GMT 10
Looks pretty persuasive to me.
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