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Post by milspec on Aug 26, 2021 19:40:29 GMT 10
I recently detected sign of wild dogs on the property. Ive spent the best part of the evenings over 10 days looking for those puppies (pun intended). Ive seen 1 dog at times ranging from 6.30pm through 3 am. Its just the one animal and the sightings have been fleeting before he disappears into long grass. Ive put some baits out (rabbits) but they havent pulled him into those clear spots so I can take him out. Any suggestions on how to nail him?
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Post by Beno on Aug 26, 2021 20:23:19 GMT 10
1080 and traps. Otherwise you’ll be spending lots of hours chasing ghosts.
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Post by rgreenw on Aug 26, 2021 21:38:03 GMT 10
on heat 😀
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Post by norseman on Aug 27, 2021 3:14:06 GMT 10
I'm awash with Wild Dogs at my place they regularly run around my paddocks and my buildings, next door lost an expensive lamb of some yuppie sheep breed ripped from under it's mother inside a pen a week or two back. Other side lost two prize alpacas worth $20,000.00 total few years back. Working dogs and pets mauled to death too numerous to mention! If you can get this bloke's DVD's they will teach you heaps! You should try some predator calls if you've got the time and patience they do work. I think mine were called Coyote Howlers or something similar they are less fatiguing to use and louder than your average tin fox whistle, if you've ever sat for hours on a fox whistle you'll know what I mean!
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Post by spatial on Aug 27, 2021 7:49:37 GMT 10
1080 and traps. Otherwise you’ll be spending lots of hours chasing ghosts. Manage a large number of mining lease properties.. Fox baiting with 1080 is undertaken every 3 months, very effective against dogs. |
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Post by milspec on Aug 27, 2021 7:56:35 GMT 10
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not so interested in poison with my own dogs being on the property. Will look into some of the callers. Thanks norseman. |
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Post by Beno on Aug 27, 2021 8:18:59 GMT 10
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not so interested in poison with my own dogs being on the property. Will look into some of the callers. Thanks norseman . What i do is lay the baits and tether them so they can’t be moved. muzzle or restrain dogs for baiting period then when complete gather and bury baits Real deep, over the 500mm recommended. Dig deep hole, dump untaken bait, add a big rock on top of bait then bury. Safe, effective, dead dogs but not yours😁. And Milspec from experience you’ll always see the bugger when you don’t have your rifle. Meaning, always carry your rifle in your vehicle, tractor (particularly when slashing), atv, horse or whatever when on your block. I relearned that lesson this morning when piddling the dogs. I was down the driveway and a feral cat i’ve been seeing waltzed down the road not a care in the world. Ran back grabbed the rifle but the cat was onto me and i could not get a shot off by the time i returned. |
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Post by norseman on Aug 27, 2021 8:29:47 GMT 10
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not so interested in poison with my own dogs being on the property. Will look into some of the callers. Thanks norseman . And Milspec from experience you’ll always see the bugger when you don’t have your rifle. Meaning, always carry your rifle in your vehicle, tractor (particularly when slashing), atv, horse or whatever when on your block. I relearned that lesson this morning when piddling the dogs. I was down the driveway and a feral cat i’ve been seeing waltzed down the road not a care in the world. Ran back grabbed the rifle but the cat was onto me and i could not get a shot off by the time i returned. Agree 100% always happens and our dickhead gun laws make it virtually impossible to get a rifle out, up and working when your dog sighting is a fleeting flash of rough fur bolting through the pasture! |
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Post by spinifex on Aug 27, 2021 8:59:50 GMT 10
+1 for baits.
Safe when used properly. Number and tag bait stations precisely. Count baits in and out every morning and evening. Only leave them out at night when all good dog owners have their pets secured.
With a single dog it should be possible to discern a behavior pattern. A movement pattern. I've taken out foxes close to my house by placing a single bait where I know it will find it the first night I place it. And I have to be careful because we own a Beagle ... and it WILL find lost baits in record time given a chance.
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Post by feralemma on Aug 27, 2021 11:04:55 GMT 10
You can get direct injection bait stations that can't be moved around by animals and can be deactivated when you need to. Not sure on the laws in your state, but you can either get an LMPT in to set them for you (and check them), as well as set traps and put cameras in to monitor dog activity, or you can get a poisons ticket and do it yourself. Personally I prefer to shoot but dogs are far more cunning than foxes. As it's a loner it's probably a male, so if you can get some pee from a on heat you can lure it in with scent markers.
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Post by milspec on Aug 27, 2021 12:20:45 GMT 10
It appears to be a loner.
The 6.30 pm sighting was an unexpected one, I had the thermal in hand but the rifle was in the safe awaiting me to get it out for the night!
Thanks for the tips re 1080 management. Will have to revisit that topic with she who sets commandments regarding poisons on the property.
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Post by Joey on Aug 27, 2021 16:34:38 GMT 10
In the meantime, while awaiting a decision on the baiting, grab a couple of traps. There's a bit of info around for setting traps and even just to "cure" them to remove human/factory scents from them before use.
But when ready, drop a roo or pig and place a couple of traps around the carcass
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Post by steve0 on Aug 28, 2021 0:46:47 GMT 10
what do you reckon is the cause of so many wild dogs in australia? Over breading and just irresponsible people i suppose?
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Post by norseman on Aug 28, 2021 4:36:58 GMT 10
This monster was taken in the state forest that forms my back fence! The bloke in the photo is the local ranger his job is killing wild dogs!  |
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 28, 2021 9:00:03 GMT 10
I can have lead going down range in less than 30 secs from leaving the house, getting the rifle from the gun safe, loading and exiting the shed. Practice does it.
Gun control is: Having the right stance, using the right ammunition for the task and being able to hit your target !
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Post by norseman on Aug 28, 2021 9:29:25 GMT 10
I can have lead going down range in less than 30 secs from leaving the house, getting the rifle from the gun safe, loading and exiting the shed. Practice does it. Gun control is: Having the right stance, using the right ammunition for the task and being able to hit your target ! Yep I can do that! Even better would be your loaded rifle under the bed when the dogs are really active, but you wouldn't do that because it is highly illegal and I absolutely do not condone breaking the law! Does anyone know the legality of sleeping with your rifle slung and cradled in your arms with muzzle down between your legs, technically wouldn't that be maintaining safe control of the firearm while being ready for immediate use? That you need to ask a question like this just illustrates the fukking idiocy of our current gun laws! |
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Post by spatial on Aug 28, 2021 10:28:54 GMT 10
My father in law back in South Africa used to put a wet mat with a steel grid on it and hang some meat above it from a tree. DC currant to the steel mat and wire holding the meat - animal standing on the mat biting into the meat got fried.
That was in a domestic neighbourhood. My father would put snares in the fences where the holes were and dogs got through. Not much is old legal in the old penal colony.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 23:00:26 GMT 10
I can have lead going down range in less than 30 secs from leaving the house, getting the rifle from the gun safe, loading and exiting the shed. Practice does it. Gun control is: Having the right stance, using the right ammunition for the task and being able to hit your target ! Yep I can do that! Even better would be your loaded rifle under the bed when the dogs are really active, but you wouldn't do that because it is highly illegal and I absolutely do not condone breaking the law! Does anyone know the legality of sleeping with your rifle slung and cradled in your arms with muzzle down between your legs, technically wouldn't that be maintaining safe control of the firearm while being ready for immediate use? That you need to ask a question like this just illustrates the fukking idiocy of our current gun laws! It's your property and you are allowed to hunt so dont see any issue with having your rifle loaded and ready as long as you are "hunting". Staking out a position waiting for a wild dog is hunting in my book, even if that position is in a somewhat comfortable "hide" |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 11:14:24 GMT 10
This is one way to get the job done
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Post by Beno on Sept 9, 2021 11:38:03 GMT 10
Yep I can do that! Even better would be your loaded rifle under the bed when the dogs are really active, but you wouldn't do that because it is highly illegal and I absolutely do not condone breaking the law! Does anyone know the legality of sleeping with your rifle slung and cradled in your arms with muzzle down between your legs, technically wouldn't that be maintaining safe control of the firearm while being ready for immediate use? That you need to ask a question like this just illustrates the fukking idiocy of our current gun laws! It's your property and you are allowed to hunt so dont see any issue with having your rifle loaded and ready as long as you are "hunting". Staking out a position waiting for a wild dog is hunting in my book, even if that position is in a somewhat comfortable "hide" This is where having a property diary comes into play. Record all pest sightings, tracks, scats, stock losses etc and record all the efforts you apply to solving the problem including being ready to respond quickly to a problem. This is essentially evidence as to why you are doing what you are doing. |
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