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Post by spatial on Sept 1, 2022 19:10:37 GMT 10
Good YT vid on what to do when a major collapse starts.
Many US prepper now in full panic as expecting imminent collapse.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 2, 2022 3:27:27 GMT 10
Thanks for sharing..
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Post by rastus on Sept 27, 2022 18:54:13 GMT 10
Speaking of a major collapse starting, I think it is (slowly) under way.
Nord Stream 2 was just blown up to prevent Germany (and Europe in general) from getting cold feet with winter coming. They now can't have pipeline gas even if Russia was willing to send any, so this removes diplomacy off the table. Already 40% of industry in Germany is offline.
Edit: Nord Stream 1 was also hit.
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 28, 2022 9:07:41 GMT 10
So much for "green" energy. German forests are being clear felled for firewood, and its gunna be green, so lots of smoke pollution. The greens have shot 'emselves in the foot me thinks.
Any landscape is a condition of the spirit.
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Post by bug on Sept 28, 2022 10:12:06 GMT 10
Speaking of a major collapse starting, I think it is (slowly) under way. Nord Stream 2 was just blown up to prevent Germany (and Europe in general) from getting cold feet with winter coming. They now can't have pipeline gas even if Russia was willing to send any, so this removes diplomacy off the table. Already 40% of industry in Germany is offline. Edit: Nord Stream 1 was also hit. Not sorry to hear this at all. Germany was arming Ukraine, yet funding Russia via gas imports. This sends very mixed messages.
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Post by bug on Sept 28, 2022 10:32:26 GMT 10
So much for "green" energy. German forests are being clear felled for firewood, and its gunna be green, so lots of smoke pollution. The greens have shot 'emselves in the foot me thinks. Any landscape is a condition of the spirit. Some level of gas generation is required alongside renewables, largely due to its ability to dispatch quickly. Emissions from it are far less dirty than coal or diesel too. At this stage there's really no such thing as a 100% renewable grid. Getting into the 90s is feasible, but not 100%
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 28, 2022 11:32:35 GMT 10
One of the 10 things to do will be not to go to town, or at least not go unarmed.
If we get some form of warning from the alternative media, or short wave radio, then a quick (ha, towns a 120 km round trip !), to top up fuel and whatever is left in the stores may be possible.
Our thinking when shopping is "what do we need to get supposing this was our last trip to town, ever".
As a result, the budget is often blown sky high !
Whilst she who must be obeyed is getting stuff from Coles etc, I'm in the gun shop stocking up on as much ammo as possible, and whatever else that may be on special to clear it out before the masses storm the shops and take it anyway.
War fixes a lot of social problems.
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Post by spatial on Sept 28, 2022 15:24:44 GMT 10
One of the 10 things to do will be not to go to town, or at least not go unarmed. If we get some form of warning from the alternative media, or short wave radio, then a quick (ha, towns a 120 km round trip !), to top up fuel and whatever is left in the stores may be possible. Our thinking when shopping is "what do we need to get supposing this was our last trip to town, ever". As a result, the budget is often blown sky high ! Whilst she who must be obeyed is getting stuff from Coles etc, I'm in the gun shop stocking up on as much ammo as possible, and whatever else that may be on special to clear it out before the masses storm the shops and take it anyway. War fixes a lot of social problems. I think it starts with a banking holiday, so one morning you wake up and all bank accounts across the globe are frozen. That is when you take cash and go bargain hunting. Supermarkets etc will need to get rid of fresh produce as there will only be a few buyers, it will be a buyers market. Received my annual bonus last month, being an evil coal mining it was quit good as coal price is at all time record. Drew the equivalent of a moths wage in cash an added to existing cash supplies, ready for the big horary and finial shop. Have a good mental list of what to get including adding more fuel.
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 28, 2022 17:48:40 GMT 10
We have been withdrawing cash for shopping for some time now, placing it in an envelope and that's the money for that spend, like grocery's, fuel, and so on. We have also been giving ourselves $20 each a fortnight, to spend as we wish. It makes budgeting a bit easier as that's the money, no more allowed, and gives the security of having cash for when the banks do implode. Also, it removes the Government spying on purchases, or potential for that over here. (No doubt its happening in America already).
Cash will be king, at last for a while.
Already got the fuel covered, enough for several years plus bartering, all with additive in it.
We carry a list in the car of what to get for a final shop.
Its all manipulation, subversion and double speak.
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Post by ausprep130 on Sept 28, 2022 18:06:50 GMT 10
One of the 10 things to do will be not to go to town, or at least not go unarmed. If we get some form of warning from the alternative media, or short wave radio, then a quick (ha, towns a 120 km round trip !), to top up fuel and whatever is left in the stores may be possible. Our thinking when shopping is "what do we need to get supposing this was our last trip to town, ever". As a result, the budget is often blown sky high ! Whilst she who must be obeyed is getting stuff from Coles etc, I'm in the gun shop stocking up on as much ammo as possible, and whatever else that may be on special to clear it out before the masses storm the shops and take it anyway. War fixes a lot of social problems. I think it starts with a banking holiday, so one morning you wake up and all bank accounts across the globe are frozen. That is when you take cash and go bargain hunting. Supermarkets etc will need to get rid of fresh produce as there will only be a few buyers, it will be a buyers market. Received my annual bonus last month, being an evil coal mining it was quit good as coal price is at all time record. Drew the equivalent of a moths wage in cash an added to existing cash supplies, ready for the big horary and finial shop. Have a good mental list of what to get including adding more fuel. If bank accounts are frozen across the globe then Govts, banks and the media will down play the situation and it will take days or even weeks for the effects to trickle through to the point where supermarkets will discount their produce. When it does happen it would be best to pretend you have no cash and then only produce some in small denominations.
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Post by ausprep130 on Sept 28, 2022 18:19:29 GMT 10
We have been withdrawing cash for shopping for some time now, placing it in an envelope and that's the money for that spend, like grocery's, fuel, and so on. We have also been giving ourselves $20 each a fortnight, to spend as we wish. It makes budgeting a bit easier as that's the money, no more allowed, and gives the security of having cash for when the banks do implode. Also, it removes the Government spying on purchases, or potential for that over here. (No doubt its happening in America already). Cash will be king, at last for a while. Already got the fuel covered, enough for several years plus bartering, all with additive in it. We carry a list in the car of what to get for a final shop. Its all manipulation, subversion and double speak. With regard to fuel stockpiles. I did that earlier in the year. Treated the diesel with anti algae/water disperser. Kept it for a few months as no need to use it and then prices went down so purchased from the local station. Oh well, it was a gamble worth taking and didn't lose much. Then I decided to use it and almost immediately had issues with the vehicle (pre computer). Mechanics suspect dodgy fuel as the cause for issues despite changing the fuel filter twice. I'm hoping it was only because the seals were old but I have heard others with newer vehicles, both petrol and diesel, suffering fuel quality related engine issues.
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Post by frostbite on Sept 28, 2022 19:25:15 GMT 10
I've been storing diesel for a while. I rotate it every 6 months. Never bothered with additives. Never had an issue in my 2017 model dual cab.
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 29, 2022 8:39:59 GMT 10
The main keys to successfully storing fuel long term are.
1) Never put petrol into plastic Jerry cans for long term storage. The petrol attacks the plastics, even if "approved" and sends the petrol off. Always use metal cans for petrol.
2) Diesel is OK in plastic Jerry cans though.
3) Seal the cans well and store in a dark, cool place. Any air trapped in the cans will oxidize the fuel, sending it off. Fill them up with a small air gap at the top only.
4) The shed where fuel is stored must be well away from any dwellings, and fitted with a lightning arrester arrangement to dissipate any electro-static buildup.
5) Overhead tanks are good, but the vent must have some form of water or condensate trap as moisture will cause the fuel to go bad as well as air. The air inside the tank is almost 100% fuel vapor and hence wont oxidize.
6) Same goes for storage of kerosene, oil, metho and turps, keeping moisture and air out is the key to long term storage.
I have 60 liter drums of turps and metho that were filled in 2007, and are still usable.
Globalists are terrorizing humanity with artificial SCARCITY of everything: Food, energy, fertilizer and more… When we defeat the controllers, we unleash ABUNDANCE for all
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Post by spatial on Sept 29, 2022 14:16:22 GMT 10
If bank accounts are frozen across the globe then Govts, banks and the media will down play the situation and it will take days or even weeks for the effects to trickle through to the point where supermarkets will discount their produce. When it does happen it would be best to pretend you have no cash and then only produce some in small denominations. In 2008 the world was hours away from a total banking collapse, Yesterday the British banking system nearly collapsed, the British gov had to do emergency intervention to keep the financial system stable. 100% of all currencies across history have collapsed. When the Roman financial system collapsed the rulers were throwing coins in the streets for free to try and stave off the mad panic. Hyperinflation got them.... When the so called modern banking system collapses it will be total pandemonium, no amount of media fake news will be able to do anything. No one will be able to use credit or debit cards. Cant put in fuel or purchase food etc... If your fuel tank happens to be low you will be walking home. 9 meals to total chaos will be on the cards. After major storms a few years back and power outages the supermarkets immediately put perishable goods on for sale as had no way to maintain used by dates and no refrigeration. Cash will be king for a few days till the riots destroy everything. Things always fail catastrophically - slow grind then suddenly nothing. That how it has played out in history.
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Post by frostbite on Sept 29, 2022 14:41:13 GMT 10
Stop it Spatial, you're getting me all excited.
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Post by ausprep130 on Sept 29, 2022 14:42:43 GMT 10
My local supermarkets regularly have power outages of a few hours. When it occurs they simply put the perishables out back in the larger cold storage area. No discounting. They seem more willing to throw it out rather than sell it at a discount. I suspect it is something to do with legal liability if they sell something that has not been refrigerated properly.
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Post by spatial on Sept 30, 2022 14:40:06 GMT 10
Stop it Spatial, you're getting me all excited. Jonny BRAVO, "All your dreams for the end of the world are coming in a day. China ready to sell all it US holdings (Bonds) perhaps getting ready to invade Taiwan. World financial markets are imploding it is getting very real..
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Post by malewithatail on Sept 30, 2022 16:09:43 GMT 10
Of the 3 things mentioned to get before TSHTF, no 3 is interesting choice.
No 1, Precious metals, includes gold, silver etc. Understandable as gold always was a means to store wealth.
No 2, Bitcoin. I have some, and its a hedge against a collapsing currency, at least for a while.
No 3, Food, or more specifically, a garden or land for a garden. You can have 20 shipping containers full of food and water, eventually it will run out and you need a resupply plan. A food garden is it.
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Post by frostbite on Sept 30, 2022 16:56:12 GMT 10
Is that Bravo guy thick? He bangs on about paper 20 and 50 pound notes no longer able to be used. But the news article in his video states they are being replaced by polymer notes. Much better from a preppers perspective, as the polymer notes will be more durable when stashed.
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Post by Tim Horton on Oct 1, 2022 4:06:54 GMT 10
But the news article in his video states they are being replaced by polymer notes. Much better from a preppers perspective, as the polymer notes will be more durable when stashed. --- --- There seem to be a lot of alarm videos about ...take advantage of this, that before the market tanks... They may be totally correct about what will happen every step of the way.. Doing there plan may benefit a person ...xxx% of gain, etc, etc... But will any of this be useful trying to keep your refrigerator full or running ?? ??
Canada has had plastic bills since 2011 (?)... I think the first batch were printed in Australia until we got our own printing ability.. They do last.. Are kind of a pain in the neck to use in and out of a wallet.. The different colors make it easier to use.. There is brail on the notes for those who need that..
Sweetie found $20-$40 (?) of old paper money in an old book.. Exchanged it for plastic at the bank, no problem..
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