alan308
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Post by alan308 on Mar 18, 2023 20:41:58 GMT 10
How will people react to the proposed highly survalenced 15 minute cities. They are proposed for Newcastle, Maitland, Lake Macquarie, Muswellbrook, Dungog, Cessnock, Port Stephens, Singleton & Upper Hunter.
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Post by Stealth on Mar 19, 2023 0:08:46 GMT 10
Meh. People who are ok with it will live in them. People who aren't, won't. I don't feel particularly energetic about the concept either way. I've lived in the very definition of a conspiracy theory 15 minute city. It was fine. In some ways it was really actually very good. I could go for a run at dusk and come home an hour into dark in total safety. I've never experienced that before or since. Probably seems unbelievable to someone that hasn't lived with that concern, but it was a breath of fresh air for the short time I lived that way.
To be honest I'm far more concerned about the state of the world economy and the potential for armed conflict right on our doorstep. A couple of years ago the idea might have been mildly concerning although I'd have avoided that by simply not living there. Given none of them are in locations I'd want to live anyway the fact that where we plan to buy in a few years is considered rural, I don't think anyone's spending that kind of money around where I'll be.
I think we've got bigger problems on the horizon than a bunch of folks moving into a petri dish housing scenario, no matter whose binoculars are pointing in their direction.
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Post by tactile on Mar 19, 2023 13:09:26 GMT 10
I'm already living it. What do you want to know?
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Post by Joey on Mar 19, 2023 15:40:18 GMT 10
No way it'll work for major cities where you have to travel 1hr each way to get in and out of the city for work due to the poor town planning designs of the last century.
For it to work to perfection, there would have to be a lot more shopping centres, at least one for each suburb and a lot more businesses operating remotely or having mini CBD's scattered through the suburbs for big businesses to have remote offices. The government would also have to invest in a lot more schools seriously around the suburbs.
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Post by spatial on Mar 19, 2023 16:13:30 GMT 10
Meh. People who are ok with it will live in them. People who aren't, won't. I don't feel particularly energetic about the concept either way. I've lived in the very definition of a conspiracy theory 15 minute city. It was fine. In some ways it was really actually very good. I could go for a run at dusk and come home an hour into dark in total safety. I've never experienced that before or since. Probably seems unbelievable to someone that hasn't lived with that concern, but it was a breath of fresh air for the short time I lived that way. To be honest I'm far more concerned about the state of the world economy and the potential for armed conflict right on our doorstep. A couple of years ago the idea might have been mildly concerning although I'd have avoided that by simply not living there. Given none of them are in locations I'd want to live anyway the fact that where we plan to buy in a few years is considered rural, I don't think anyone's spending that kind of money around where I'll be. I think we've got bigger problems on the horizon than a bunch of folks moving into a petri dish housing scenario, no matter whose binoculars are pointing in their direction. I suppose when the economy fails and people are rioting and looting, it will be of little use. |
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Post by spatial on Mar 19, 2023 16:16:40 GMT 10
How will people react to the proposed highly survalenced 15 minute cities. They are proposed for Newcastle, Maitland, Lake Macquarie, Muswellbrook, Dungog, Cessnock, Port Stephens, Singleton & Upper Hunter. Hi and welcome... Surveillance helps the police and security maintain control with reduced workforce, and when things go bad the anarchy will start sooner. In South Africa street lights and security cameras kept some semblance of crime down, but when there are blackouts!! the criminal know it is party time and go completely berserk. One would have to add to your preparedness emergency response blackout procedures in the so called surveillance cites, to deal with added security concerns,. |
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Post by Stealth on Mar 19, 2023 20:19:18 GMT 10
That's a very good point. Especially if things are getting really desperate I'd expect the second the surveillance goes there'd be people taking advantage of it. Another reason to simply not live in it if it can be avoided.
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Post by tactile on Mar 19, 2023 20:27:27 GMT 10
On another note...has anyone else noticed that Woolies seem to have the cameras on all the time with their self checkout machines these days? When you start your transaction your own image is in the top right hand part of the screen?
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Post by Stealth on Mar 19, 2023 20:34:23 GMT 10
Yep! Apparently it's a mechanism to stop people from 'accidentally' selecting the wrong options so as to under-purchase on a pricier item (mostly fruit and veg) because people are less inclined to steal if they believe that they're being watched. Putting it on the screen is supposedly more likely to make you aware that you're being monitored. But it sounds like we're all monitored from the second we walk into a store to the second we walk out anyway.
I know that I get offered things on the basis of things I've been purchasing in the past through the flybuys scheme and they even track down to which store I bought it at.
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Post by Joey on Mar 20, 2023 18:26:02 GMT 10
Remember that bunnings runs facial recognition cameras in all their stores
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Post by Stealth on Mar 20, 2023 20:32:52 GMT 10
So does Big W I believe. I think a lot of those chain conglomerates do now.
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 21, 2023 6:52:39 GMT 10
Hmmm, maybe its time to wear a mask again !!
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Post by tactile on Mar 21, 2023 11:52:03 GMT 10
Baseball cap will do the job...or carry piece of tape or bent card to sit over the top of the screen while you do the deal. Probably all pointless because if you use a card they know who you are anyway.
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Post by malewithatail on Mar 21, 2023 12:27:45 GMT 10
Same goes for rewards cards.
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Post by tactile on Mar 21, 2023 14:20:25 GMT 10
Yep...if its free, you're the product.
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Post by milspec on May 10, 2023 6:56:59 GMT 10
I saw a clip recently which basically made the case that governments will declare fertain regions 'uninhabitable' due to climate change and force relocate people to smart cities. Once again this concept is tied to WEF agendas and NZ is playing the role of test bunny.
Sounds absurd ... so it fits right in with the rest of the absurd concepts which are unfolding in reality.
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Post by tactile on May 10, 2023 11:51:51 GMT 10
Yep! Apparently it's a mechanism to stop people from 'accidentally' selecting the wrong options so as to under-purchase on a pricier item (mostly fruit and veg) because people are less inclined to steal if they believe that they're being watched. Putting it on the screen is supposedly more likely to make you aware that you're being monitored. But it sounds like we're all monitored from the second we walk into a store to the second we walk out anyway. I know that I get offered things on the basis of things I've been purchasing in the past through the flybuys scheme and they even track down to which store I bought it at. And another thing I forgot to mention - look up...they have a camera above you too! |
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Post by frostbite on May 10, 2023 20:01:34 GMT 10
I saw a clip recently which basically made the case that governments will declare fertain regions 'uninhabitable' due to climate change and force relocate people to smart cities. Once again this concept is tied to WEF agendas and NZ is playing the role of test bunny. Sounds absurd ... so it fits right in with the rest of the absurd concepts which are unfolding in reality. Like in Lismore where the govt deems flood affected houses to be unviable for habitation and buy them off the owners? That is a whole different prospect to forcing people out of viable, million dollar rural properties just because it fit a UN agenda. That’s how civil wars start. |
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Post by malewithatail on May 11, 2023 8:13:39 GMT 10
"Like in Lismore where the govt deems flood affected houses to be unlivable for habitation and buy them off the owners? "
But they haven't bought them, and its not compulsory to sell.
Gunna flood again as sure as eggs. People build on a flood plain, what do they think is gunna happen ? Even Bunnings got done over.
Since nobody knows who invented bitcoin. Is it possible it was the government slowly implementing a virtual currency to control our every financial moves?
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Post by milspec on May 11, 2023 11:12:47 GMT 10
frostbite ... as we've seen in the Netherlands governments will try it on, in that case trying to erode farmers viability with emissions controls was likely a first step in trying to get farmers off their land.
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