WA proposed firearms reform

Off topic, but those farking pickup trucks are everywhere now and they are useless and dangerous. You'll often see one towing a motorbike on a trailer, that would have been easily mounted on a 20 year old hilux single cab. So they can't even do the basic tasks of a ute. They are no good off road either as they don't fit down many 4WD tracks. They appear to operate very effectively as w anchor magnets at car dealerships though.

On topic, if that issue with the .338 is real then it is insane. There are plenty bigger calibres out there for buffalo (nitro express etc), so what of those? Ban them too?

Statement by a Liberal MP(missed his name)on 7 news tonight "We won't oppose restricting gun ownership to 5 firearms, we want to get ILLEGAL FIREARMS off the street".

Aditionally Liberal  MP Merome Beard said she would support the Nationals opposition to firearms reform. Going to be very interesting.

If someone breaks into you house and steals the firearms they only get 5 instead of 200.  ??!!!~~!!~...   The illegal's importers send entire shipping containers of guns at a time into the country - that is where the real illegal guns are coming from.  

For me all new purchase have been putting them other family members license.  So total firearm's held on site will not change.  

I mean, I can give you a direct, lived experience if that's what you're looking for.

It's all well and good to have ten firearms in your home, but one break in on a rural property where they're a bit relaxed about their security and suddenly that's 10 uncontrolled weapons in the environment. I had an ex do that many, many years ago. Guess how much longer we were together after I found out about his larceny. I'll give you the hot tip, it was about three seconds and a 'gtfo of my house and I never want to see you again' heh. I don't know what the outcome was for him but I DO know that he was caught because he had to get a lawyer to fight the charges. Or at least, his parents did. Pretty sure it was all pinned on his brother because it was 'his brother's idea'. Pffft. Anyway. Booted him out and the next day I had the cops at the door asking for him. Couldn't tell them where he was because tbh I didn't care and told them as such. Didn't find out the full scale of what they'd been up to and probably never will but I don't have contact anymore for good reason so it's not a me problem. 


But my point is, before I knew what was going on (in hindsight I should have realised but I was fairly young and innocent) he was talking with his brother in front of me about how many farmers in their area leave their gunsafes open and keep all the ammo in one place which is also not locked up. Apparently they all gossiped about it to each other at the pub in the afternoon, full of piss and vinegar and ranting about their one local cop who was just doing his job with inspections. Obviously it wasn't hard for one guy to figure out exactly how many places he could hit up and knock off in one afternoon. I heard five from one guy alone.



Now I realise that no one here is stupid enough to telegraph like that in public where others can hear. But the folks in this forum are a very small microcosm of the gun owning population. The average punter is unfortunately not quite that savvy. In one tiny Victorian town they gave up enough info in one sitting for one person to roll up thousands worth of guns that are then free for black market sale. But another thing to keep in mind is that my ex absolutely was not a career criminal. He was a stupid, fairly young guy who's even stupider and younger brother had a REALLY stupid idea and they both ran with the stupid. 

Career criminals aren't going to be so stupid as to steal guns in a town where they're well known and easily recognisable as the only person that's been through in the last month when things suddenly start going missing. Apparently all the old and bolds keep their safes well locked and side eye anyone before talking about guns anymore 😅.

But illegal guns and the danger involved in their existence is not just a made up story to keep the civilians in line and undefended. These kind of thefts do happen. The way I look at it is that it's a very fine line between having the tools you need to do the job, and the tools you want to satisfy your own tool (is that indelicate? that might be indelicate... hahahaha). I don't envy the people trying to work out where that line is because there's valid reasons to have more and there's valid reasons to have less. I can see both sides of the argument for this topic. 

Yeah you make very good points there. Idiot ex wouldn't have been able to do what he did if he didn't hear the olds gobbing off a the bar and then take advantage of their lack of personal security. I'm obviously pretty knee-jerk on securing your weapon but it's the folks who aren't that are the problem.

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Look, your point is valid. But to restrict ownership on the basis of that kind of thing is victim blaming. 
The very obvious and well known issue is that courts are consistently too soft on crime. Scumbags have a lot of trouble stealing guns when they are in jail.