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Post by frostbite on Oct 25, 2022 16:46:09 GMT 10
I got heaps of bees at my place looking for a place to nest, like in my walls or roof. They better bugger off or I'll hit them with the wasp spray.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 26, 2022 7:19:27 GMT 10
Time to start beekeeping as a survival skill. catch them and re-home into a Langstroth box. Then you will have another prepper supply, fresh honey from your own garden. As a side effect, the stings you get whilst working them boost your immune system for free !
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Post by frostbite on Oct 26, 2022 8:14:55 GMT 10
I don't have a sweet tooth, so have no need for honey. Have almost 100kg of sugar stored, that should last us a long time.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 26, 2022 8:19:07 GMT 10
Honey will be a tradable commodity after TSHTF. Sugar wont be available, and besides, honey just tastes nicer than raw sugar, not even counting the trace amino acids and pollen's etc it has as well that contribute to good health.
That’s how science works: ignore any evidence that goes against the popular narrative.
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Post by ausprep130 on Oct 26, 2022 11:10:51 GMT 10
Sugar, especially in large quantities or regualar intake is not good for one's health long term but it can be used in food preservation, or to make alcohol, not necessarily for drinking, instead it could be used for cleaning, sterilising or a fuel source. 100kg of sugar could make about somewhere between 40-50L of alcohol.
Honey, especially locally sourced has many benefits such as strengthening immunity, preventing/limiting hay fever and it has antiseptic properties.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 26, 2022 16:37:28 GMT 10
Dont forget the stings you will inevitably get whilst working them. I don't use gloves, just a veil and a little smoke if needed and get stung, usually from picking up a frame and squashing a bee. It does really help the arthritis and also I haven't had a cold or sniffle in years, let alone covid. The immune system gets tuned up every time and the effect seems to last for a few weeks, at least until its time to look at them again.
Raw honey, from your own property, can help to de sense you to pollen's and other things that cause allergies, as its loaded with it, as well as amino acids and just tastes good. Our Kids eat it by the spoonful.
Understand this great cosmic truth: The universe operates on an ecosystem of automatic abundance, where mass is abundant (and free), and mass can be converted into energy at nearly zero cost (via hot fusion, cold fusion, LENR, etc.). Automatic abundance is intelligently designed into the very laws of physics.
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Post by captain on Oct 26, 2022 21:18:22 GMT 10
Sugar, especially in large quantities or regualar intake is not good for one's health long term but it can be used in food preservation, or to make alcohol, not necessarily for drinking, instead it could be used for cleaning, sterilising or a fuel source. 100kg of sugar could make about somewhere between 40-50L of alcohol. Honey, especially locally sourced has many benefits such as strengthening immunity, preventing/limiting hay fever and it has antiseptic properties. You can still use honey to make alcohol…. Ever hear of honey mead? I also use honey to make bread -instead of sugar. It makes the bread taste that little bit better.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 27, 2022 7:21:51 GMT 10
We use honey for almost everything, except for jam making. Bread, sweetening tea, cooking and so on. Yes, mead is made on honey and a mate and myself are putting some down this week.
Besides, having your own honey from your own farm, gives an interesting insight into the different flowerings around.
It would appear that the Veroa mite breakout in Australia recently, is a strain that hasn't come from USA or NZ, as it is not resistant to the treatments they use over there. This means we may be able to control it simply with organic means, oxilic acid, and other simple ways, like ventilated bottom boxes that allow the mite to fall onto the ground when the bees are grooming themselves. It also appears that the disease the mites carry that affects wing growth of the bees, isn't harbored by this particular mite, as its not the mite that kills the bees, but the diseases the mite carry's. Simple solutions like the vented bottom box, and a handful of sugar thrown over the bees to encourage them to groom each other, may be enough of a control for a while. Other regulatory things, like having to carry out a alcohol wash of a certain number of your hives every few months, may also help to track the outbreak. Genetically, it looks as if the mite has been here for about 2 years, but I suspect its been here for a lot longer than that. It would also appear as if it didn't come through the Port, as the sentinel hives showed no signs of infestation. I don't think total eradication is possible, so we will have to get used to living with it. There are certain breeds of bees that are more resistant to the mite as well, but they tend to be more aggressive, so beekeeping just got harder. We live with the small hive beetle, which can destroy a hive in a matter of weeks, so Veroa is probably going to be the same. AFB and EFB are here, and we have procedures in place to cope with these pests.
Energy, in turn, can be used to create fuels and fertilizer, two inputs necessary for affordable food. In addition, the universe provides the sun which brings us heat, energy and photosynthesis, all for free.
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Post by ausprep130 on Oct 27, 2022 13:04:49 GMT 10
Sugar, especially in large quantities or regular intake is not good for one's health long term but it can be used in food preservation, or to make alcohol, not necessarily for drinking, instead it could be used for cleaning, sterilising or a fuel source. 100kg of sugar could make about somewhere between 40-50L of alcohol. Honey, especially locally sourced has many benefits such as strengthening immunity, preventing/limiting hay fever and it has antiseptic properties. You can still use honey to make alcohol…. Ever hear of honey mead? I also use honey to make bread -instead of sugar. It makes the bread taste that little bit better. My comments were in response to the comment about sugar not being tradeable which is why I pointed out a few uses for 100kg of sugar. And yes I have heard of mead, although I prefer a proper lager or ale. I also pointed out a few uses for honey but neglected to mention alcohol. Personally I think making alcohol from honey would be waste of honey, but that's just me.
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Post by frostbite on Oct 27, 2022 13:44:05 GMT 10
I'm not big on trading post shtf. Perhaps with my immediate neighbours, but I can see lots of risk associated with trading. I'd rather be in a position where I can lock my gate and not need anyone outside my group, especially if the event was a serious pandemic, where trading might infect you.
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Post by bug on Oct 27, 2022 14:21:52 GMT 10
Why would sugar not be tradable?
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 28, 2022 12:42:39 GMT 10
I envision trading to be after things stabilize, local groups, meeting to exchange surpluses, not necessarily at survivors home locations. A community market if you like.
I suspect during the collapse, people will be too busy keeping themselves and their groups alive to worry about trading. There may be some door to door bartering happening, but the risk of getting a 12 g shoved in your face is probably too great for this to happen too soon after the fall.
When geoengineering isn’t creating artificial droughts, rain falls out of the sky for free, and the rivers, streams and oceans are teeming with life and abundance (except for when we pollute them with pesticides, biosludge and plastics, of course).
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Post by bushdoc2 on Oct 28, 2022 16:42:37 GMT 10
I'm not big on trading post shtf. Perhaps with my immediate neighbours, but I can see lots of risk associated with trading. I'd rather be in a position where I can lock my gate and not need anyone outside my group, especially if the event was a serious pandemic, where trading might infect you. Up to a point, yes. you may have to trade for someone else's skills/meds/fuel if not enough yourself.
That said, very risky to be the guy who HAS stuff. Incentive to attack you. Be the guy who can GET or DO stuff, you're worth more to them alive and cooperative that way.
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Post by frostbite on Oct 28, 2022 16:54:27 GMT 10
I'm not big on trading post shtf. Perhaps with my immediate neighbours, but I can see lots of risk associated with trading. I'd rather be in a position where I can lock my gate and not need anyone outside my group, especially if the event was a serious pandemic, where trading might infect you. Up to a point, yes. you may have to trade for someone else's skills/meds/fuel if not enough yourself.
That said, very risky to be the guy who HAS stuff. Incentive to attack you. Be the guy who can GET or DO stuff, you're worth more to them alive and cooperative that way.
DO stuff, like having a long range rifle with a high end thermal optic and the skills to protect the neighbours stock from rustlers who would steal them at night?
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Post by frostbite on Oct 28, 2022 17:25:04 GMT 10
Quote: "I envision trading to be after things stabilize, local groups, meeting to exchange surpluses, not necessarily at survivors home locations. A community market if you like"
Maybe, but travelling to and from those markets in a world with no police force may make you the target of modern day bushrangers.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 28, 2022 17:37:38 GMT 10
You would need to go armed, visibly so, perhaps a 12 g shotty. Travel is an issue, especially if you are reserving your fuel supply's for essential use, like cropping etc.
Knowledge will be power, know how to fix a solar system, set up a garden etc, puts you in charge.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 29, 2022 7:27:38 GMT 10
I suspect just before the collapse, that the Govt pr..ks will go door to door, confiscating weapons. They know who has them and where they are, All in the one place, so defense of your people will take on a renewed importance.
Anyone notice when Australia started to go woke ? It seemed to get worse after the gun confiscation period after Port Arthur. Until then, I think people had a self defense mentality and the Govt jerks knew that if they messed with us too much they would be on the wrong end of a shotgun or similar. A disarmed population is ripe for tyranny. Also, it has left us open to invasion from outside forces.
Look up 'slamfire' on the net.
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Post by frostbite on Oct 29, 2022 7:36:59 GMT 10
Look up 'slamfire' on the net. I've never had a problem with premature discharge of my weapon.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 29, 2022 8:17:25 GMT 10
This is what Im talking about. Cost, about $25, availability of bits n pieces, Bunnings.
Or this commercially available 12 g slamfire
Used to have an Ithica 12G double barrel that had to be carried open (broken), because as soon as you closed it, both barrels went off at the same time. Big bang !
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Post by bug on Oct 29, 2022 8:56:50 GMT 10
I suspect just before the collapse, that the Govt pr..ks will go door to door, confiscating weapons. They know who has them and where they are, All in the one place, so defense of your people will take on a renewed importance. Anyone notice when Australia started to go woke ? It seemed to get worse after the gun confiscation period after Port Arthur. Until then, I think people had a self defense mentality and the Govt jerks knew that if they messed with us too much they would be on the wrong end of a shotgun or similar. A disarmed population is ripe for tyranny. Also, it has left us open to invasion from outside forces. Look up 'slamfire' on the net. Definition of democracy 1:when the elites choose two puppets for you to vote for and you get scr...d either way. Yes. This is a hallmark of authoritarianism. The Nastys went straight for registered weapons whenever they occupied a country. Modern day authoritarian regimes will all ban private ownership. Random stop and search of someone who has committed no crime is not legal for police to do to a regular citizen, yet if you have a registered firearm, the police can walk into your home without you having committed any crime. This is authoritarianism.
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