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Post by token on Oct 27, 2016 8:13:37 GMT 10
Firstly, if you like steak, you should 'love' venison. Age you venison in the fridge if possible. Let the outer crust go black (this is just drying, nothing to worry about), cut it off and the meat underneath should be soft, red and pink. Venison fat is not desirable, and any lines of tendon or whitish tissue type stuff can make it chewy when cooked so remove them. Cut into thin (5mm) small glorified 50c piece size medallions. Cracked salt and pepper over the top, (dont over do it, just light) press into the meat and fry in a hot pan with a nob of butter. Wait till the upside bleeds a tad, then turn it over and only 1-2 minutes per side depending on how you like your meat. Set aside to rest on a plate for 1 minute. Serve this over a bed of steamed white rice and if you dont love it i will be assured that you are from another planet lol
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Post by token on Oct 26, 2016 22:29:44 GMT 10
im looking at checking temps out my way in summer as it gets hot and dry. stay tuned
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Post by token on Oct 26, 2016 19:59:02 GMT 10
I think a bit differently on this subject, as i know of folk who do well alone, and just get lost out bush and really dont like interaction with others much. Having been in another country also where people are poor i remember one indian fella telling me they just dig up some casava when they are hungry, which grows all over the place there. They live simple and humble. Under pieces of tin with no electricity or amenities, do a bit of fishing and sit on their thatched mat quiet all day alone. A lot of the scenarios of lone wolf here seem to imply being hunted down, or that huge amounts of bush will be covered looking for people, and that might be, but what if it isnt that scenario? Living in the bush with a knowledge of the flora and fauna etc you can survive, ive seen it, mongoose, bat and eel hunting, this plant for medicines and this plant for foods, picking up mangos in season from trees along the river, digging up edible roots, banana's, and fishing for small fish in the rivers under rocks, ive had the pleasure of being taken and seen how a people live. Lone wolf is not a threatening strategy to me, and if the right scenario occurs where they arent being actively hunted and or found where lots of people arent, then it would fit. For myself, with the family i am more of a protector, i dont have a choice and i wouldnt want it any other way. I would prefer to be of help to others, as sometimes i find myself worrying about how others are as i currently look over a number of people to ensure they are doing ok. Still, so much more to do from my side to have my BOL setup ready for 'some' scenarios. I dont think anyone can prepare for everything, there's a flaw somewhere thats for sure. The problem is though Token and as you well know like I do in ideal situations things are good but even if no one is actively hunting you down and resource's are rich the chance of survival of a lone wolf are still less over long term
Most animals know this as well which is why they seek out packs to be members of even lone wolves
It only takes a simple slip when you are searching for food and with no one to back you up things go from good to desperate or fatal very quickly this is the price of being a lone wolf
Yes mate, sickness, injury and accident is an issue indeed, and hence why i am a proponent of the group system, if even at a distance from each other rather than a communal type of living arrangement, even though i also think this can be done with the right people, structure and agreements.
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Post by token on Oct 26, 2016 19:12:53 GMT 10
I think a bit differently on this subject, as i know of folk who do well alone, and just get lost out bush and really dont like interaction with others much. Having been in another country also where people are poor i remember one indian fella telling me they just dig up some casava when they are hungry, which grows all over the place there. They live simple and humble. Under pieces of tin with no electricity or amenities, do a bit of fishing and sit on their thatched mat quiet all day alone.
A lot of the scenarios of lone wolf here seem to imply being hunted down, or that huge amounts of bush will be covered looking for people, and that might be, but what if it isnt that scenario? Living in the bush with a knowledge of the flora and fauna etc you can survive, ive seen it, mongoose, bat and eel hunting, this plant for medicines and this plant for foods, picking up mangos in season from trees along the river, digging up edible roots, banana's, and fishing for small fish in the rivers under rocks, ive had the pleasure of being taken and seen how a people live. Lone wolf is not a threatening strategy to me, and if the right scenario occurs where they arent being actively hunted and or found where lots of people arent, then it would fit.
For myself, with the family i am more of a protector, i dont have a choice and i wouldnt want it any other way. I would prefer to be of help to others, as sometimes i find myself worrying about how others are as i currently look over a number of people to ensure they are doing ok. Still, so much more to do from my side to have my BOL setup ready for 'some' scenarios. I dont think anyone can prepare for everything, there's a flaw somewhere thats for sure.
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Post by token on Oct 26, 2016 12:49:29 GMT 10
My pic personally is a group of like minded folk in the same area with their own setup that can help and assist one another.
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Post by token on Oct 26, 2016 9:27:27 GMT 10
bahaha, i almost lost my coffee when i scrolled down and saw this bahahaa, funny as!
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Post by token on Oct 26, 2016 7:25:42 GMT 10
Its by far not a pointless post mate, its one which is needed to discuss and ponder over and over again imo for survival in case something does occur.
I'm not sure i fully agree though on a few basis's. Firstly if your a good bushman, you can live out in the bush quite well and leave little footprint in very full areas. There are places in Vic ive hunted deer that are so thick that you cannot see the sky from under the canopy. I purchased a PLB (Personal Locator Beacon) because i knew that if i got tagged by a snake or injured myself severely, id never be found. This would make for good hiding an living.
Also, a study of some ethnic wars reveals stories of being extremely well hidden. One mother and her 3 children hid in a dug out underneath a house and came out at night for a long time. Other such stories come to mind also.
Remember that fella who got loose i think up qld way for a long time on the run, he even shot a coppa in the head with a .22 i think, or shot at him when they went in after him, and they couldnt get him for ages. They sent special soldiers in after him as well but came up with nothing. The mistake he made was kept coming back to certain empty houses in the bush at night and they rigged the houses with sensors to detect movement and eventually got him that way. Had he have kept on moving to different areas and or stayed deep in the scrub, who knows how long he would have gotten by. After all, he was intentionally being man hunted, most lone wold preppers wont even be known to exist out there.
I am all for groups, id prefer to work with people personally and have a BIL and there is a lot of advantage, especially not being so tense all the time if your a loner. Having your supplies handy, knowing the layout of your area and more.
Good convo, look forward to the thoughts from others.
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Post by token on Oct 25, 2016 8:44:46 GMT 10
Getting into the situation in the first place... I could say so much, though I will focus on the scenario presented. I teach my clients fairly frequently about the use of anger, how anger can and should be used. I often deal with people who have been abused and teaching them to be angry with people who as a child might harm them [which is often why they can't be angry] isn't a good deal, rather I teach them the trick of 'inner anger', that is being angry without expressing it outwardly. The distinction here is your outwardly complicit, yet inwardly fuming with rage, waiting for the right moment. In this case with Rick we see an inability to do so, despite it being a good idea, yet I find that hard to imagine that being realistic as he was a police officer who would have been annoyed many times in his duty, yet had to hold back on that expression. Having said that we have what we have, his ego outwitting his intelligence. The cost? 1 extra death and an imprisonment of one of his best assets. Losing a battle isn't losing a war. I know most of this is obvious of course. Then there's a question of fighting back, the costs are clear. Is it worth it? You could run and go a very long way with very little further cost. With poor communications and seemingly a few hundred at most in his network, there's going to be a limit of areas of influence, traveling a couple of hundred kms/miles I consider to be a viable plan. Of course this ought to have been already planned, bug out vehicles ready and loaded for escape at a moments notice as well as the plan being known to everyone that if such a scenario happened that's exactly what they would do, aka everyone's ok with being left behind for the good of the group if no other choices are available, though I digress. It wouldn't be great to leave someone behind, though it might be the better decision in the longer term than trying to fight so many who are well resourced or submitting and being effectively enslaved and potentially killed at any moment, rather you fight, run or die than spend it on your knees. What if they did fight? Clearly some allies are needed and head on without the numbers would be suicidal. Who can you actually trust? I would think that a wiser action would be a simple one, to comply and go along with things until such time as an opportunity presented itself to take out the leader. The obvious solution to my mind is a scoped rifle, we have seen that other areas had spears because they had no ammunition/weapons, presumably because they were taken, so pre-planning with that intel is essential, hiding much of their cache essential! The snake without it's head will twitch, particularly as he rules via fear, infighting for the position would most likely happen. He has lots of potential enemies, has a great deal of confidence which sure is because of the power behind him, but it rests greatly on him ruling with an iron fist. Whilst the next guy will be just as bad [probably] the group would most likely fracture due to infighting and fights for the leadership, weakening them, perhaps enough. yer i agree, stuff just got interesting though for where the season heads too. I suspect the most brutal season yet.
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Post by token on Oct 25, 2016 7:28:09 GMT 10
Putin is very well spoken most of the time and i like his direct tone. He made the US look like aggressors and idiots in that interview, but there is no doubt in my mind that mother russia and her kgb and plans are still lurking in the background behind such a front.
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Post by token on Oct 25, 2016 7:03:55 GMT 10
Great stuff. Pity we can't have them up here in QLD. Just get some long eared guinea pigs instead Gray lol
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Post by token on Oct 25, 2016 6:57:47 GMT 10
Before we dump spoilers, might want to change the title to include a warning, aka 'walking dead spoilers', Token Otherwise, I'm all for it as it gives an example of a possible scenario. Spoiler alert added guys. Go for it. It was an interesting watch imo. I'm still processing how i felt, and or my reactions tbh. I think Rick made a mistake with the 'im gunna kill you' line. Fact is, when your in that position id be looking for any moment of opp to take out Neagan as hes just a bloke, nothing special, to possibly take over the leadership through such. Although that might not work and his men might kill others, so not sure whether there was an opp, in the van i saw a plenty, gun or no gun from Neagan, one still had opportunities there. Back to the line of 'im gunna kill you', i would have played submission from that point and started the hostage negotiation style giving him what he wants playing subservient and broken. Time is whats needed to plan. Im not sure whether im a bit of a hard nut but when it comes to surviving something such as that, i dont think id be having flash backs on the roof of a truck for a while at that time. It would be to survive and save some others and to grieve later, but alas, thats just what my emotions and mind tell me now, maybe id be a slobbering baby. Its going to be an interesting season.
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 20:41:17 GMT 10
Great for ideas but at near $16k ill build my own lol Yeah, for $15k I would expect it to contain a year of food as well! And a box of coloured smoke grenades lol
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 20:40:13 GMT 10
Put in majority olive oil (tea spoon) and a few drops of either eucalyptus oil or tee-tree oil. Dont be anal about the mix, just majority oil. Can you please clarify this? I assume it's a majority of olive oil... If by measurement you grab a 1.25ltr soda pop bottle lid, just fill it 3/4 full of olive oil and put a few drops from a droplet or syringe into the mix, stir it and draw from the lid with the syringe and put it into the animals ear squirting it on the scabs. The measurement doesnt really matter than much, i add more eucalyptus and teatree oil in than a few drops generally, but in the bottle you see in pic, it was 4/5ths full of olive oil first then i filled it with the other, hope that makes sense.
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 20:36:52 GMT 10
Excellent in compost, and equally valuable if raising crustaceans in an aquaponics system. geeze, never heard of raising them in aquaponics, small thing in a shell aint it? do they eat the egg shells?
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 20:34:26 GMT 10
A lot of preppers want to get their hands on broody hens and for good reasons. Natural is best, but be aware, your going to need a lot of broody hens to keep up with a meat demand come the end of the world, so, incubators are a good choice.
Firstly, remember, your going to need to get a breed which has the broody instinct as many dont.
Second, test your hen to see if she actually is broody. Sometimes hens will sit a day or so and will then abandon the nest, so be sure to see that they arent moving. Even isolate them into their own nest away from other birds to be left alone.
Thirdly, you will get the odd hen that will go broody without having a rooster service her, but generally they know when they are fertile because the rooster has been treading them, thats when they will go broody, so no point getting some fertile eggs from a neighbour and putting them under a hen not serviced by the rooster, it will be a game of luck if so.
A rooster can service up to 15 girls, so do the math and ensure youve got enough roosters to make sure your girls are all going to be giving fertile eggs.
Fourthly, after the rooster has been in a week or so, crack the eggs you get and check if their is that all familiar bullseye in the yoke. After your getting good fertility rates in eggs, mark the eggs with a greyled pencil as to the date and store them in a carton on the bench (not in the fridge) and point down.
Do not keep eggs more than 10 days until setting them under a broody hen.
Fifthly, before setting the eggs under the broody hen, warm the eggs up by putting them next to your body. Some broody hens will reject the eggs because they are cold.
Six, put some food and water near the hen so that she can feed and drink well.
Seven, ensure if you use fake eggs to encourage chooks to lay that you remove them. I had a broody hen jump up off her nest for a quick bite to eat and drink and then got in the wrong nest, with 3 fake eggs and started incubating them. They seem to get lost sometimes, so ensure as well that you take away any other eggs in nests daily.
By marking the eggs you set under the broody hen, when she gets off, or when you have time to check without disturbing her too much, you can know the new eggs she has laid there because they dont have your mark of date on them, set them aside according and make sure you mark in your farm diary the dates you set the eggs under her so that if she gets off them and doesnt go back, checking daily will ensure you can get them under another hen, or into an incubator for the remainder of time so you dont lose stock.
Just a few thoughts, for others with experience or knowledge in this area, throw up your thoughts and experiences, love to read them.
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 19:58:35 GMT 10
Great for ideas but at near $16k ill build my own lol
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 18:21:47 GMT 10
Now that I know the date, why yes I'm hanging out for it. The big build up at the end of last season, where [redacted] is [redacted] and [redacted] and I really think [redacted] is [redacted]! Thanks Shiney, I was wondering how that played out. haha, no spoilers shiny, i think i overheard Peter loading his 12g lol
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 18:20:13 GMT 10
My kids, stepkids, nephew are big fans. My daughter bought me the series but I haven't watched it yet. As I explained to my nephew, in the land of the M4, if 80% of the population are infected the remainder simply fire 8 times, problem resolved in a couple of minutes. Ad for ricky boy, why dont his group have shoulder fired missiles, 40mm automatic grenade launchers, up armoured humvees, 50cal machine guns. They'd be freely available to anyone who isnt a complete moron. Youll love it i reckon, apart from the emotional stuff every 60 seconds in the middle of serious drama lol, and apart from it being drama with some sttttuuuuuupid actions which most of us here probably would never engage in. Id be a lot more hostile and defensive as well as anticipating serious enemy attacks and thinking all the time, plus trying to grow heaps of food, trap and hunt parties, but thats just me, everyone is different, for me its thought provoking as well as engaging getting to know the characters and see them evolve.
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 18:06:47 GMT 10
I dont think it would be an issue Gray. Scrub turkeys can stay together but not like guinea fowl do. They are like a bunch of birds connected together lol.
The guineas i have get along well with all the chooks and the dogs, quail, cats goats and sheep without any issues mate.
You just have to orient them. That means lock em up for 2 weeks on your block in a pen (nuttin fancy) and give them feed and water, then open the door and put a little feed and keep a bucket of water there, or put it near a dam. Leave the door open from there and then youll find they perch at night in a tree.
Youll know about it if theres a predator on your block in the daytime though.
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Post by token on Oct 24, 2016 17:57:00 GMT 10
Noticed a few brushed potatoes sprouting at my neighborhood fruit market, so I grabbed one, cut it into a few chunks and buried them in the corner of my herb garden as a bit of an experiment. As far as ive learned, your meant to let the cut pieces sit and dry out for 24hours before planting, but it is a spud and boy do they have a strong survival ratio.
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