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Post by sentinel on Jul 18, 2014 14:53:21 GMT 10
If you have access to coconut trees, you can actually extract oil from the coconut cream by cooking it until the oil forms I don't need convincing on the joys of coconuts - got hooked on em in the 90's - food of the gods.
Imagine my joy at finding we had 4 mature trees growing in our back yard when we moved here. (There is no emoticon that can match this big cheesy grin ATM).
But I then discovered two were 'Miniture' I suppose you'd call these in our yard - they are a smaller nut - any input on these OL???
And if you can can you give me some more info on 'how to' extract that oil - remember I love the K.I.S.S. principle for myself.
PM me or post it if you can - which ever - will appreciate that info.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 18, 2014 14:45:50 GMT 10
High ground can also mean landslides. I didn't mean to say that 15m tsunamis were nothing to worry about. I was just basing it on the concept of the book that a 15m tsunami would wipe out Australia. Yeah - I know. I was just pointing out (using your post) that we should not take any Tsunami warning lightly - I still don't trust the GBR as a be all end all - it's dying off so therefore it's compromised. If they dredge it then recent research indicates the silt flow can be disastrous (information only recently released - haven't had the opportunity to look into who funded this and who benefits - FYI - up in the Whitsunday region ATM dredging is a very, very touchy subject due to proposed expansion of a place called Abbott Point - if it gets full go ahead it will be the largest coal export terminal in the southern hemisphere - could even be the world - but not sure of the later) so the reef is looking to be coming to an end as our saviour.
Also here in Australia - we had not heard of Tsunamis really 20 years ago in general - this last decade has seen some large ones with devastating impacts - we now know what they are - at least I do. To be completely honest a continual wall of water that seems never ending would rattle the most confidant person to the core IMO. I hope I never need to face that challenge. (Yes in this situ I will admit my mortality).
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Post by sentinel on Jul 18, 2014 13:51:13 GMT 10
a 15 meter tsunami isn't that big and wouldn't have the power to wipe out a continent like Australia. The 2011 Japan Tsunami was 30 feet high (about 10 meters) and it only affected a small portion of Japan. I am on the coast. I can see water. I am doubtful if I'm 15mtrs above sea level.
After saying all that I do take Tsunamis extremely seriously. I know the GBR is a 'Buffer-zone' for us and has likely saved Qld more than once over the eons. But every natural or man made barrier has it's limitations. I regularly monitor for Tsunami threats and when 1 emerges - yes I have moved to higher ground. I would rather be safe than trying to swim in a blender type situation. I have even seen others take their kids out of the schools up here for the day when a warning comes out.
Think it was a couple o f warnings back a lot of people drove along the mangroves and tidal flats to reach one of the prime lookout locations - we watched them travel to there for a good 30min - I would think these would be the same people who venture out when the water recedes well out just prior a Tsunami hits.
(Perhaps it's a natural law of selection or a natural selection process - either way - high ground is good ground, preferably not across mangrove/tidal flats.)!!!
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Post by sentinel on Jul 18, 2014 11:04:42 GMT 10
Yep, something to keep an eye on. Will be interesting to see what happens with ISIS close by I think this is what may have prompted this assault - the fact that ISIS/ISIL are right next door -
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ISIS Already in Gaza Strip
by Khaled Abu Toameh July 4, 2014 at 11:45 am
Hamas seems to be losing control of the dozens of terror cells in the Gaza Strip.
Hamas prevented local journalists from covering the ISIS rally in the Gaza Strip last month as part of its effort to deny the existence of ISIS in the Gaza Strip. But Hamas seems to be trying to cover the sun with one finger.
The Gaza Strip is no longer only a threat to Israel, but also to Egypt. The only way to confront this threat is through security cooperation between Israel and Egypt.
Despite denials by Hamas, there is growing evidence that the terrorist group Islamic State of Iraq and Syria [ISIS] -- also known as "The Islamic State" -- has begun operating in the Gaza Strip.
Palestinian Authority [PA] and Israeli security sources are convinced that followers of ISIS in the Gaza Strip are responsible for some of the recent rocket attacks on Israel.
Hamas, they say, seems to be losing control over the dozens of terror cells belonging to ISIS and other jihadi groups.
Members of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, in Gaza. (Image source: ISIS YouTube video)
Eyad al-Bazam, spokesman for the Hamas-controlled Ministry of Interior, earlier this week denied reports ISIS terrorists had infiltrated into Egypt through tunnels along the border with the Gaza Strip. He described the reports as "lies and fabrications," adding that they are part of a campaign to "distort the image of the Gaza Strip," and that "There is no presence of ISIS in the Gaza Strip."
The denial came in response to a report in the Egyptian newspaper Al-Masry Al-Youm according to which Egyptian security forces arrested 15 ISIS terrorists who tried to enter Sinai from the Gaza Strip. According to the report, Palestinian terrorists in the Gaza Strip facilitated the infiltration of the ISIS terrorists into Egypt so that they could carry out a terrorist attack against Egyptians.
The report said that the terrorists had been entrusted with establishing terror cells and branches of ISIS in Egypt.
Hamas is obviously nervous about the presence of ISIS terrorists in the Gaza Strip and sees them as a direct challenge to its rule. ISIS believes that Hamas is "too moderate" and is not doing enough to achieve the destruction of Israel.
Last month, Hamas sent its policemen and militias to disperse a rally organized by ISIS followers in the Gaza Strip to celebrate the recent "military victories" of the terrorist group in Iraq. Hamas prevented local journalists from covering the event as part of its attempt to deny the existence of ISIS in the Gaza Strip.
At the rally, attended by dozens of Islamists, the crowd chanted, "Khaybar, Khyabar, Ya Yahud, Jaish Mohamed Saya'ud!" ("O Jews, Mohamed's army will return.")
This is a battle cry that many Islamists like to chant to remind the Jews of the story of the battle fought in 629 CE by the Prophet Mohamed against the Jews of Khaybar, an oasis in northwestern Arabia. The battle resulted in the killing of many Jews, and their women and children were taken as slaves.
Earlier this year, masked militiamen in the Gaza Strip posted a video on YouTube in which they declared their allegiance to ISIS. The militiamen are believed to be members of a radical Islamist salafist group that has been operating in the Gaza Strip for the past few years.
Then, Hamas also denied that ISIS had any followers in the Gaza Strip. But Hamas seems to be trying to cover the sun with one finger.
At the funeral of two Islamists killed by the Israel Defense Forces last week in Gaza, funeral-goers carried flags and banners of ISIS.
Over the past decade, it has become clear that Hamas is not the only terrorist organization operating in the Gaza Strip, which has become a base for dozens of jihadi groups, some linked to Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
The smuggling tunnels that used to link the Gaza Strip with Egypt (most have been destroyed by the Egyptian army over the past year) have facilitated the movement of thousands of Islamist terrorists in both directions.
The Gaza Strip is no longer only a threat to Israel, but also to the national security of Egypt.
The only way to confront this threat is through security cooperation between Israel and Egypt, which have a common interest in preventing the Islamists from exporting their terrorism beyond the borders of the Gaza Strip.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 18, 2014 7:12:56 GMT 10
(My deepest sympathies go out to the 27 Australians {and other Nationalities} killed in the jet that was shot down over the border region of the Ukraine and Russian Fed this morning). ............................................
www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/07/18/twenty-seven-australians-killed-in-mh17-crash.html
Twenty-seven Australians killed in MH17.
crashUpdated: 7:06 am, Friday, 18 July 2014
Dutch airport authorities have confirmed 27 Australians were on board flight MH17 which crashed in eastern Ukraine.Among the 295 passengers and crew on board were 154 from the Netherlands, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, six Britons and four Germans.The nationalities of the others on board are yet to be confirmed.An Australian passport is clearly visible in footage aired on Russian media which showed passports reportedly recovered from the crash site.A 24-hour hotline has been set up by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for people who have concerns friends or relatives may have been on board: 1300 555 135.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 18, 2014 6:58:53 GMT 10
I had hoped this would settle down some - look's like it hasn't. Oh - and this could well turn into another trigger to set off the M/E with the ISIS/ISIL right next door. ...................................... www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/israel-launches-gaza-ground-invasion-2014717192054899505.htmlIsrael launches Gaza ground invasion Columns of tanks enter Palestinian territory in major escalation of offensive, as Gaza faces heavy bombardment. Gregg Carlstrom Last updated: 17 Jul 2014 20:18 Israeli tanks entered Gaza on Thursday night after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered a ground invasion, a major escalation in a ten-day offensive that has already killed more than 230 Palestinians. Witnesses in Gaza reported heavy bombing from jets, warships and artillery stationed along the border, with much of the firing was directed at northern Gaza. The electricity was cut off across a large swathe of the strip, though it was unclear why. A statement from Netanyahu and Defence Minister Moshe Ya’alon described the invasion as focused on destroying tunnels connecting Gaza to Israel. A group of gunmen tried to enter southern Israel through a tunnel from Gaza on Thursday morning; the army said eight of the 13 attackers were killed, and Hamas claimed responsibility for the operation. It was the second such incident in the past ten days. "[The operation] will deal significant damage to the infrastructure of Hamas and other terrorist organisations in the Gaza Strip," they said. The escalation came not long after a five-hour “humanitarian ceasefire” requested by the United Nations, which gave residents a brief chance to venture outside before the bombardment resumed. Both sides largely stopped firing, and people ventured out to markets, grocers, barbers and banks, which opened for the first time in more than a week. At least 231 Palestinians have been killed so far, including 39 children, and more than 1,700 injured. One Israeli has been killed by rocket fire from Gaza. Media reports on Thursday afternoon, attributed to Israeli officials, suggested that a ceasefire had been agreed and would take effect the next morning. But diplomatic sources said that the parties were still meeting, and both sides have now denied the reports. 'No progress in talks' Later in the afternoon Sami Abu Zuhri, a spokesman for Hamas, told reporters there was no significant progress in the talks. He also denied that any Hamas leaders had even traveled to Cairo: Moussa Abu Marzouq, a senior member of the group, has been meeting with Egyptian mediators, but he has been a longtime resident of Cairo. Azzam al-Ahmad, a Fatah representative in Cairo, also told Al Jazeera that there was no agreement. The Israeli delegation in Cairo includes Yoram Cohen, the head of the Shin Bet security service, and Yitzhak Molcho, a close aide to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Avigdor Lieberman, the Israeli foreign minister, hinted at a long military campaign, telling a group of ambassadors to step up their diplomatic efforts. “The report on a ceasefire, allegedly for tomorrow morning, is far from reflecting reality,” he said. “I spoke now with the prime minister, and at least right now, this is unknown to us.” Hamas last week outlined a few basic terms for ending the conflict, demanding an end of the siege on Gaza and the release of dozens of prisoners freed in a 2011 deal but re-arrested this summer. Those concessions would be politically difficult and unpopular in Israel—and in Egypt, which would have to open the Rafah crossing with Gaza. The year-old military-backed government in Cairo has taken a hard line towards Hamas, declaring it a terrorist organisation and destroying the smuggling tunnels on which it relied for revenue. With no diplomatic progress, Israel resumed airstrikes shortly after the UN’s ceasefire ended. Three children from the same family were killed in a bombing in Gaza City, one day after a strike on a beach killed four other young children, cousins from a fishing family who were playing by the port. Palestinian groups fired more than 100 rockets into Israel, including two barrages at the Tel Aviv metropolitan area. No serious injuries or damage were reported. The army also said it shot down a drone launched from Gaza, for the second time the week. Source: Al Jazeera
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Post by sentinel on Jul 18, 2014 6:37:45 GMT 10
Don't know who IS responsible ATM for this - but if you were looking for a trigger to escalate this to a full on situation - this is it IMO; ............................ Malaysian jet 'shot down' over Ukraine - Europe - Al Jazeera English www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/07/report-malaysian-jet-crashes-near-ukraine-2014717151147473508.htmlMalaysian jet 'shot down' over Ukraine Malaysian Airlines fight MH17 carrying 295 passenger crashes in Ukraine's east, amid reports alleging missile strike. Last updated: 17 Jul 2014 18:07 A Malaysian airliner was brought down over eastern Ukraine, killing all 295 people aboard and sharply raising the stakes in a conflict between Kiev and pro-Moscow rebels in which Russia and the West back opposing sides. Ukraine accused "terrorists" - fighters aiming to unite eastern Ukraine with Russia - of shooting down the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with a heavy, Soviet-era SA-11 ground-to-air missile as it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on Thursday. Leaders of the rebel Donetsk People's Republic denied any involvement, although around the same time their military commander said his forces had downed a much smaller Ukrainian transport plane. It would be their third such kill this week. Journalists saw burning and charred wreckage bearing the red and blue Malaysia insignia and dozens of bodies strewn in fields near the village of Hrabove, 40km from the Russian border near the rebel-held regional capital of Donetsk. Al Jazeera's Rory Challands, reporting from Moscow, said the plane fell in an area controlled by pro-Russian separatists. "The investigation would be very difficult given that it's controlled by the rebels," he said. "Ukrainian officials are saying that many children were dead. Some are saying that all died. Reuters is reporting that body parts were found at the scene. It seems that it was a very gruesome scene." Despite the shooting down of several Ukrainian military aircraft in the area in recent months, including two this week, and renewed accusations from Kiev that Russian forces were taking a direct part, international air lanes had remained open. Dutch news channel RTL said at least 76 Dutch citizens were aboard the aircraft. A Ukrainian official said there were 23 US citizens. France said at least four of its citizens were on board. Wreckage and bodies Malaysia Airlines said air traffic controllers lost contact with flight MH17 at 1415 GMT as it flew over eastern Ukraine towards the Russian border, bound for Asia with 280 passengers and 15 crew aboard. Flight tracking data indicated it was at its cruising altitude of 33,000 feet when it disappeared. That would be beyond the range of smaller rockets used by the rebels to bring down helicopters and other low-flying Ukrainian military aircraft - but not of the SA-11 system which a Ukrainian official accused Russia of supplying to the rebels. "I was working in the field on my tractor when I heard the sound of a plane and then a bang," one local man at told Reuters news agency at Hrabove, known in Russian as Grabovo. "Then I saw the plane hit the ground and break in two. There was thick black smoke." An emergency worker said at least 100 bodies had been found so far and that debris was spread over 15 km. People were scouring the area for the black box flight recorders and separatists were later quoted as saying they had found one. "MH17 is not an incident or catastrophe, it is a terrorist attack," Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko tweeted. He has stepped up his military campaign against the rebels since a ceasefire late last month failed to produce any negotiations. Russia, which Western powers accuse of trying to destabilise Ukraine to maintain influence over its old Soviet empire, has accused Kiev's leaders of mounting a fascist coup. It says it is holding troops in readiness to protect Russian-speakers in the east - the same rationale it used for taking over Crimea. Ukrainian Interior Ministry official Anton Gerashchenko said on Facebook: "Just now, over Torez, terrorists using a Buk anti-aircraft system kindly given to them by Putin have shot down a civilian airliner flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur." The Buk is a 1970s vintage, truck-mounted, radar-guided missile system, codenamed SA-11 Gadfly by Cold War NATO adversaries. It fires a 5.7-metre, 55-kg missiles for up to 28km. Rebel accusation A rebel leader said Ukrainian forces shot the airliner down and that rebel forces did not have weaponry capable of hitting a plane flying 10km up. Ukrainian officials said their military was not involved in the incident. The military commander of the rebels, a Russian named Igor Strelkov, had written on his social media page at 1337 GMT, half an hour before the last reported contact with MH-17, that his forces had brought down an Antonov An-26, a turboprop transport plane of type used by Ukraine's forces, in the same area. There was no comment on that from the Ukrainian military. Several Ukrainian planes and helicopters have been shot down in four months of fighting in the area. Ukraine had said an An-26 was shot down on Monday and one of its Sukhoi Su-25 fighters was downed on Wednesday by an air-to-air missile - Kiev's strongest accusation yet of direct Russian involvement, since the rebels do not appear to have access to aircraft. Moscow has denied its forces are involved in any way. The loss of MH-17 is the second disaster for Malaysia Airlines this year, following the mysterious loss of flight MH-370. It disappeared in March with 239 passengers and crew on board on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. In 2001, Ukraine admitted its military was probably responsible for shooting down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea, killing all 78 people on board. A senior Ukrainian official said it had most likely been downed by an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises. Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 11:36:40 GMT 10
I'm going to try and keep the theory as simple as possible for you so to sum it up 1. grid goes down 2. your in the dark I loike simple!!
I loike summing it up versions!!!
So - to do it right you'd need a axillary battery pack back-up to cover yourself.
Did I get that right???
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 11:32:27 GMT 10
Yup! Its sad when we have to get our news from foreign sites! Perhaps they would prefer us to remain in the dark and trust them implicitly!!! NOT!!!!
Seems to be a growing list of what's best for us not to know.
They forget - they work for us.
(Tonight - Thursday - ABC - Catalyst - story on Meteors and Air-Burst Meteors, I think will be covered as the one in RU exploded 35k above ground level and injured 1,000 ppl. Experts agree at a steeper decent and a lower air-burst would have been devastating. Considering the amount of 'Junk' and Natural items entering our atmosphere daily could be well worth watching).
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 10:29:22 GMT 10
This is a bit of a concern as there IS legislation in place to PROTECT whistle blowers in Australia.
It appears that they might be creating a 'GREY' area for their discretion.
Australian Securities and Investments Commission - Whistleblowers and whistleblower protection
www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Whistleblowers and whistleblower protection?openDocument#INFO 52
our current pollies seem well equipped to set legislation to make them all look good.
(I'm looking at info on this 'Illegal' boat load of boatpeople that's active in the Indian ocean ATM.)
Seems we are being kept well in the dark about these illegals as well.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 9:54:41 GMT 10
LOL you kids and your abbreviated chat *Rolls eyes* Ok, so what does he mean about delegation? LOL Hey - can't do all your work for you.
Need to leave you 1 or 2 challenges - keeps y'r mind active.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 9:48:37 GMT 10
No delegation through yet AFAICT. Did you just do it this morning? Sorry Rob, not sure what you mean mate? As Far As I Can Tell, it means - "As Far As I Can Tell"
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 8:49:07 GMT 10
When's the closing point again?? Another week and half or so! Thanks - I forgot the initial time frame that was mentioned.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 8:42:39 GMT 10
Not the first time Europe has faced total annihilation, in fact it has a long history of it. Have to remember the very enemy that is threatening us has proven that all you have to do is resist and no foreign army can hold an area forever when faced with an entrenched and determined local resistance, history has shown that quite clearly too. Unless you exterminate the local populace... Yes for some 2000 + years. You can conquer a land/civilization and hold it - the Mongol empire under Genghis Khan lasted from memory some 900 years (or there abouts) - The New world (the Americas) conquest of by European settlement, New Holland (Australia) by the British and N.Z. by the British - still technically are British as we and the Kiwi's still have the Queen as our head of state.
However - extermination of indigenous population makes it easier - look at the Canadians with blankets carrying smallpox given to natives and the US gov't placing a bounty on Buffalo to slowly starve out plains tribes, and south American indigenous tribes decimated by European diseases. (Bio warfare has been around for some time).
Although I can think of at least several countries in a certain region that could go to a 'Scorched Earth' policy. (I don't like them - I don't trust them - I don't like them trying to force their ideals/beliefs onto others. IMHO - some cultures just DON'T WANT TO LIVE PEACEFULLY!!!)
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Post by sentinel on Jul 17, 2014 0:35:05 GMT 10
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Post by sentinel on Jul 16, 2014 20:52:47 GMT 10
Thank you to all those who have replied so far! Really looking forward to more answers. When's the closing point again??
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Post by sentinel on Jul 16, 2014 16:37:13 GMT 10
re: F35 (F136, lighting... overpriced paper weight) I don't believe its a good choice for the RAAF, the USA commitment to our alliance should have released the F22 raptor to us... (Congress controlled sales as USA only) we should have thrown more weight around on that topic politically to get that fighter... when Australia has had enough of waiting for the stone, we have a next in line asap order for next gen f/a 18s... (that are getting old already, we have some tho) we should (we won't) have F22s as our backbone, and 2 A10s in our combat ability... it won't look like much, but gives us the technology "threat" we pretend to have as our diplomatic pissing contest defense .. but back to Turkey and the f35, if Isis captures any of them, China would gladly buy 2 at any cost, and Isis will have a stealth aircraft to deliver any mass payload they want re: golf balls (yes I can't spell its gulf.. but ) no comment F-35's - we only purchased these as a good will suck up and back scratch gesture!!! These planes are riddled with problems - the only saving grace is that they are simple and easy to install the US's latest technology with a minimal amount of inconvenience.
I would have preferred the A-10's - bloody near indestructible and almost needs a missile hit centre of the @#$%pit to stop one .
Huh???
That's a real word!!
Is this the Strike of the Grammar Nazi?
We need an 'In Total Fear' emoticon!!!!
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Post by sentinel on Jul 16, 2014 15:39:18 GMT 10
re: F35 (F136, lighting... overpriced paper weight) I don't believe its a good choice for the RAAF, the USA commitment to our alliance should have released the F22 raptor to us... (Congress controlled sales as USA only) we should have thrown more weight around on that topic politically to get that fighter... when Australia has had enough of waiting for the stone, we have a next in line asap order for next gen f/a 18s... (that are getting old already, we have some tho) we should (we won't) have F22s as our backbone, and 2 A10s in our combat ability... it won't look like much, but gives us the technology "threat" we pretend to have as our diplomatic pissing contest defense .. but back to Turkey and the f35, if Isis captures any of them, China would gladly buy 2 at any cost, and Isis will have a stealth aircraft to deliver any mass payload they want re: golf balls (yes I can't spell its gulf.. but ) no comment F-35's - we only purchased these as a good will suck up and back scratch gesture!!! These planes are riddled with problems - the only saving grace is that they are simple and easy to install the US's latest technology with a minimal amount of inconvenience. As for the rest - I think we will be sorry for getting them in the first place. I would have preferred the A-10's - bloody near indestructible and almost needs a missile hit center of the @#$%pit to stop one . not to mention the awesome firepower they have (I worked out for a 1.5 or 2 second burst it would cost me about 9k - but money (if I had it) well spent - I am drooling dribbling mess over that firepower). Why the yanks are talking about decommissioning them leaves me totally baffled - for what they were designed for they need some beating).
F-35's International Debut Is Canceled - WSJ online.wsj.com/articles/safety-concerns-force-cancellation-of-premier-u-s-jets-air-show-appearance-1405450432
What annoys me most is that we knew it was a dud before 2012 - yet still persisted in the purchase of this flying lemon. (From the SMH - 2012). Why the Joint Strike Fighter is a calamity in progress
www.smh.com.au/world/why-the-joint-strike-fighter-is-a-calamity-in-progress-20120509-1ycjt.html
I can't help think we were 'sucking up' to obey-me's mob - our allies - and were paying off their national debt..
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Post by sentinel on Jul 16, 2014 15:18:18 GMT 10
re: golf balls (yes I can't spell its gulf.. but ) no comment WHOOOOOoooooossssssSSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Must be slow!!!
Went over my head!!!!!!
In the words of an Immortal Redhead - "Please Explain?"
(I reckon she was great - the only person I ever seen unit the ALP & LNP in one cause - to sink her as she was gaining a lot of votes in that election when her party started - it varied from approx. 15% to 20% in many rural NSW electorates).
I've crossed the line - I mentioned politics OOPs!!!!
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Post by sentinel on Jul 16, 2014 11:03:43 GMT 10
first (sorry can't quote) the F35... yep we are on the list, but look at the f/a 18, its no longer USA issue its Australian modified... I believe after we get the fighter give it 5 years and it will be the top version of the fighter, it doesn't mean it will be good, just better than what it is (the USA has nothing that can dog fight a "Commy" jet) and isis /isil is a nasty threat, if the middle east unite under one banner, it will make ww2 look like a amateur war Jury still out on the F-35's IMO as a happy future war machine (they are sadly lacking though in a face off now with other comparable jets of similar concept). And any others that are slotted as opposition will also be 'improved over time' so I think we backed a looser on this just to support an ally - it all came down to 'Back-scratching' IMO.
As for those Black pyjama wearers (isis /isil) - I think we need to stomp very hard on this before they spread further. Gloves off - go for their jugular.
They are already a problem I believe.
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