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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 9, 2014 12:56:26 GMT 10
So people who are into being prepared are often referred to as "Preppers" and more often than not if you tell someone your a "prepper" they imagine you hiding a kilometre under the ground wearing a gas mask and sitting on top of a hoard of weapons and ammunition while the world above burns. They also imagine that you are bat shit crazy. I have taken on the attitude of being prepared as a life skill. That is that I'm always preparing for something, whether it be a job interview, what to cook for dinner, doomsday, being first to arrive and render assistance at a car accident, etc, etc...
For instance we are planning a holiday to Europe next year and in preparation we are saving money, learning some basic language skills for the intended countries, reading up on good places to visit, assessing different variations on what type of luggage to haul our stuff around in. You see it's not all about Doomsday, I would say to anyone who is a little new or unsure to consider this, the Scout motto is "Be prepared, be prepared, be prepared" Now if people think you are bat shit crazy for being prepared just tell them your not a "prepper" your a scout and your just being prepared.
Some further reading. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scout_Motto You are never to old to learn the ideologies and skills of a scout, though they are best learned young.
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Post by StepfordRenegade on Jul 9, 2014 13:09:33 GMT 10
Yeah I wish there was another term for people that are just regular prepared. "Storm damage prepper" or "Losing my job prepper" doesn't sound as cool as "Doosmday prepper."
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Post by sentinel on Jul 9, 2014 15:10:07 GMT 10
So people who are into being prepared are often referred to as "Preppers" and more often than not if you tell someone your a "prepper" they imagine you hiding a kilometre under the ground wearing a gas mask and sitting on top of a hoard of weapons and ammunition while the world above burns. They also imagine that you are bat shit crazy. I have taken on the attitude of being prepared as a life skill. That is that I'm always preparing for something, whether it be a job interview, what to cook for dinner, doomsday, being first to arrive and render assistance at a car accident, etc, etc...
For instance we are planning a holiday to Europe next year and in preparation we are saving money, learning some basic language skills for the intended countries, reading up on good places to visit, assessing different variations on what type of luggage to haul our stuff around in. You see it's not all about Doomsday, I would say to anyone who is a little new or unsure to consider this, the Scout motto is "Be prepared, be prepared, be prepared" Now if people think you are bat shit crazy for being prepared just tell them your not a "prepper" your a scout and your just being prepared.
Some further reading. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scout_Motto You are never to old to learn the ideologies and skills of a scout, though they are best learned young. Personally - I hate the term 'PREPPER'. Even though I tick all the boxes that puts me into this category - I don't refer to myself as one for a lot of those reasons 'dannyboyds' pointed out.
However I might start saying I'm a 'Homesteader - in - Training', and hope to become a full time homesteader. That should be sociably acceptable - but I'm not comfortable with people knowing what I do at the best of times. (Years ago, - on my little farm-let - my cousin payed a visit and what ever we were doing needed something from the storeroom so I told he to go in and grab whatever it was - when she emerged she said 'F*#@ Me. Larry (to her partner) if something ever happens were coming here'. 'You should see how much stuff he has in that room?' Lesson learned - they likely told others as I was very well known in that area, and loike all small country towns - 'Gossip' is the primary pass time, so I was no longer secure IMO. (This is one of the couple of primary reasons we moved North over 2k - here I am not known so can do what I do with out being noticed. I go about doing what I do and stay on the look-out for others who may be of the same thought process and see if they are and are ready for guidance. As they may well be valuable allies if things went bad.
(Dannyboyds - FYI - A thing I did while going into some very remote areas of Ru years ago was get two dictionaries 1 was Eng/Aust translation into Ru. and the other was the reverse - turns out that was the best $60 odd bucks I had spent in a long time - it became very handy too often. As my ru language skills are really bad.)
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 9, 2014 15:14:40 GMT 10
A homesteader, now that's something I can relate too. Maybe i'll adopt that term. What do you think Stepford?
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Post by graynomad on Jul 9, 2014 15:18:04 GMT 10
So far I have not told anyone, and I doubt I ever would until I decide they are of similar mind.
I also wish that there was a better word, but even if I could think of one it's too late, prepper is too entrenched now.
EDIT: Yes homesteader/ing is the word I now use, that sounds nice and old-world quaint and non-threatening, and TBH that's largely what I'm doing anyway.
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Post by StepfordRenegade on Jul 9, 2014 16:20:34 GMT 10
Yep, I like homesteading, I also like self reliant or self sufficient.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 9, 2014 16:31:05 GMT 10
Maybe we can start it off as a group of wanna 'B' "Homesteaders" - at least we will know what we are and it may actually get other outsiders asking 'What it's all about?' - Sort of feeling out the water for future net-work potential allies/candidates. What do other 'homsteaders' think of this?
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Post by graynomad on Jul 9, 2014 17:23:08 GMT 10
Not sure what form it would take but I think it's a good idea. There is already a "Food, food storage & homesteading" board. Did you have any thoughts on implementation?
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 9, 2014 18:01:10 GMT 10
Too many sub boards make things confusing in my opinion. Since the facility for discussing homesteading is already present here isn't it enough that we simply recognise what we are and participate in said already existing location?
Just my two cents anyway.
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Post by Ausprep on Jul 9, 2014 18:02:19 GMT 10
The few people that know im a "prepared individual" say nothing about it. Theres times now and then someone will make a joke about it, but then its brushed off and the conversation is changed. As most you know i also hate the word and the label "prepper" hence why it wasnt used in the forum when i created it. But to be honest, i dont care what anyone calls or labels me
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 9, 2014 18:08:20 GMT 10
The few people that know im a "prepared individual" say nothing about it. Theres times now and then someone will make a joke about it, but then its brushed off and the conversation is changed. As most you know i also hate the word and the label "prepper" hence why it wasnt used in the forum when i created it. But to be honest, i dont care what anyone calls or labels me Too true, I was being general in my original post, I don't exactly go declaring to all around me that I am a self reliant homesteading type person. I just wanted to address the stereotype and how I feel about it, I also wanted to hear how others felt and it seems I'm not alone and nor are you.
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 9, 2014 18:36:29 GMT 10
The few people that know im a "prepared individual" say nothing about it. Theres times now and then someone will make a joke about it, but then its brushed off and the conversation is changed. As most you know i also hate the word and the label "prepper" hence why it wasnt used in the forum when i created it. But to be honest, i dont care what anyone calls or labels me So, we can call you whatever we want then? ? But, the term prepper does bring to mind fruitcake Yanks armed to the teeth. That's why I like the term Wayne uses - Preparedness. Homesteader: Broadly defined, homesteading is a lifestyle of self-sufficiency. It is characterized by subsistence agriculture, home preservation of foodstuffs, and it may or may not also involve the small scale production of textiles, clothing, and craftwork for household use or sale. Pursued in different ways around the world — and in different historical eras — homesteading is generally differentiated from rural village or commune living by isolation (either socially or physically) of the homestead (Wikipedia). Don't think we fall into this defenition.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 9, 2014 18:42:11 GMT 10
The few people that know im a "prepared individual" say nothing about it. Theres times now and then someone will make a joke about it, but then its brushed off and the conversation is changed. As most you know i also hate the word and the label "prepper" hence why it wasnt used in the forum when i created it. But to be honest, i dont care what anyone calls or labels me It's all about 'Perceived Perception' IMO.
Being tagged as a 'Prepper' now means that this person is a regular 'Aladdin's Cave' to an outsider thanks to shows like DDP's.
Although as a 'Homesteader,' you generate the image of being a 'Wanna-Be-Gardener' to the average person on the street - I reckon most don't even know what homesteading is - some likely still think of the T.V. show 'Little House on the Prarie' with the Ingles family.
So it would likely gather less attention from the masses.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 9, 2014 18:50:21 GMT 10
Too many sub boards make things confusing in my opinion. Since the facility for discussing homesteading is already present here isn't it enough that we simply recognise what we are and participate in said already existing location? Just my two cents anyway. I wasn't meaning start another sub-board. Just an insider way to refer to one another and perhaps work out an 'in-house' way of identification so should things go bad and we cross each others path then we will know friend from foe.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 9, 2014 19:10:22 GMT 10
Too many sub boards make things confusing in my opinion. Since the facility for discussing homesteading is already present here isn't it enough that we simply recognise what we are and participate in said already existing location? Just my two cents anyway. I wasn't meaning start another sub-board. Just an insider way to refer to one another and perhaps work out an 'in-house' way of identification so should things go bad and we cross each others path then we will know friend from foe. Got ya mate, I wasn't sure and I often get confused when reading a conversation as opposed to hearing it, so that's my bad. As for not being exactly homesteaders, I like to think we could at least partially fall under the category of Urban Homesteaders. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_homesteadingOr something like that.
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Post by Ausprep on Jul 9, 2014 19:19:03 GMT 10
A conversation looking for a label after discussing the displeasure of being labeled...lol
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 9, 2014 19:34:27 GMT 10
A conversation looking for a label after discussing the displeasure of being labeled...lol I didn't think I ever had an issue being labeled, more the misconception that comes with the existing label. In either case the Irony is still amusing.
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Post by sentinel on Jul 9, 2014 19:54:28 GMT 10
A conversation looking for a label after discussing the displeasure of being labeled...lol Oh - Very good!!
I see the irony there also.
However - we still have our dignity!!
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Jul 9, 2014 19:55:41 GMT 10
A conversation looking for a label after discussing the displeasure of being labeled...lol Oh - Very good!!
I see the irony there also.
However - we still have our dignity!!
What? Dignity? how come I don't have any? where are you people getting all this dignity from?
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Post by sentinel on Jul 9, 2014 19:58:18 GMT 10
Oh!! Grasshopper!! - for me it's -
By claiming that we should not be called P-r-e-p-p-e-r-s!!!
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