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Post by Ausprep on Nov 9, 2013 13:02:07 GMT 10
Just want to hear what others thought of American blackout?
Did it change the way you look at preparing?
Did it change the way your partners look at preparing?
What was your thoughts on the show itself?
I personally got to thinking about things..in a lot more depth.
First was self defense...yes, im talking Ammo. From each POV..be it the young couple, the young family to the single mum and kid to the full blown prepper family.
Each had one thing in common. They eventually NEEDED some kind of self defense. Not initially, BUT at around day 8 things were getting nasty.
Im not talking like the full blown prepper nut-bag (who can even afford to go to that extent?)but im talking some kind of firearm and sufficient ammunition.
Second thing i thought of, was how long it would take me from the moment i decided to bail, to the moment we were driving out the driveway. This has given me more incentive to ensure the shed is clean and organized at all times.
Next was food. We don't stock kg after kg of rice, or pasta or MRE's.. We have lots of canned goods and our cupboards are always full. I didn't understand how after two - three days the young couple (who live in a penthouse) were out of food? Water, were (i think) good for. The camper stores 76L in its tank and we have 2x 20L water containers on the front.
One thing that did concern me was fuel. I haven't made a great effort in this area. ie making sure the wife keeps my car full ( i have a company ute so hardly drive it)
All in all, i enjoyed it. It was over acted in some scenes but it was definitely plausible.
Thoughts?
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Post by kenna on Nov 9, 2013 13:21:17 GMT 10
Well, I've had some time to digest what I saw and my initial thought as I was watching was how quickly things got really ugly! It also got me thinking about self defense....still thinking about it! I also felt the need to buy 2 more (I've already got 2 of them) manual can openers when I went to the supermarket LOL! The house burning down scared the crap outta me, but I think the thing that really got to me was the behaviour of the "looters" who took the woman (the blonde one who was stupid enough to leave her apartment to peer down the stairs to see what was going on.....)*shudder*
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 19, 2013 18:42:34 GMT 10
Yeah have seen both this and uk version, it makes it seem that prepping is a waste of time, the prepping fathers desire to confront the looters who were going after his fuel was ridiculous!
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 20, 2013 14:53:46 GMT 10
What do you mean Rem? Are you saying that he should have let them take his stores or that his attempt at equipment defence was a joke?
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 20, 2013 16:55:19 GMT 10
The fact he was going out alone I guess! With that many raiders what would you do?
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 20, 2013 17:41:13 GMT 10
To be perfectly honest I guess it would depend on what mood I was in as to whether or not I would take them down with fatal shots or with debilitating wounding shots. Either way, in his position I would shoot the lot of them from cover . They came to take hard earned stores and equipment and who knows what they will want after the equipment usage has run it's course! Better not to wait and find out, better to be pro active and take care of the problem there and then. Trying to negotiate with a person who wants what you have and see's it as their only means of survival, is like trying to negotiate with a Drunk! It's impossible and a waste of time.
Smart men are always polite to others with guns. Rude plunderers are dead men.
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Post by Juz on Nov 20, 2013 18:10:46 GMT 10
Generally my concerns after seeing this echo some of the other members how fast normal people go from joe blow next door to psychopath knocking down people over a can if food just shows how thin the line which holds society together really is , Also I was watching the rich couple who just expects somebody is going to come save them I truly believe that if shtf a large proportion of the population would be expecting someone else to save them, today's society has become so reliant on services and having things done for them a lot I think would perish in a prolonged situation.
Another point I noticed is money, society is these days plastic dependant a lot of people don't even carry cash if the power goes out your bank balance means nothing, I would think it would be a good idea to keep some cash on hand + common items to barter if need be
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 21, 2013 12:18:36 GMT 10
To be perfectly honest I guess it would depend on what mood I was in as to whether or not I would take them down with fatal shots or with debilitating wounding shots. Either way, in his position I would shoot the lot of them from cover . They came to take hard earned stores and equipment and who knows what they will want after the equipment usage has run it's course! Better not to wait and find out, better to be pro active and take care of the problem there and then. Trying to negotiate with a person who wants what you have and see's it as their only means of survival, is like trying to negotiate with a Drunk! It's impossible and a waste of time. Smart men are always polite to others with guns. Rude plunderers are dead men. |
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 21, 2013 12:20:35 GMT 10
Was he stupid going out alone and confronting them directly? He revealed himself to easily in my opinion and I know nothing about this sort of stuff.
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Post by Big Ted on Nov 21, 2013 13:02:57 GMT 10
I think that he was stupid as well Rem. He went out there without any sort of real aggression what so ever & and in a typical weak as piss attempt to avoid letting rounds go, he tried to reason with them again and throw warnings at them when in fact he had already warned them verbally, he had already pointed his handgun at them and threatened to fire previously.......what sort of protector would this father be for his daughter and wife if the blackout had of continued and after the plunderers had used up the stores that they stole got bored and lonely and depressed and needed chearing up with something.......sayyyyyy, the attention of a few women! They took food and stores by force, whats to say that they would'nt take the women by force and make their life a living hell! I have seen what human nature is capable of and I trust human nature so much in that I know what it will do when put in situations of high stress and desperation so it must be stopped before being let loose.
And yes Rem, you're right! He revealed himself quickly and pathetically displaying his weak compromising nature.
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 21, 2013 13:44:20 GMT 10
Thats what bothers me about both these shows. They showed that preppers are just as weak as others and it is actually a big government propaganda piece. Less knowledgeable people may think why bother prepping! I watched it with my older children last night and my eldest daughter, who is 21, was quite affected by it. By the end she was begging me to buy a property as a bug out location to which she and her partner would be happy to contribute supplies. It was good to hear her talk like this as it is what I have hoped for. My 17 yo son still hasn't quite caught on though!
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 21, 2013 13:52:06 GMT 10
Another question sorry! In my eyes as a woman my main protector has just left to confront a group of raiders, I would be feeling very vulnerable at this stage. If they had all gone out together armed in some way (even bluffing force multiplier) would this make the raiders feel more vulnerable and back off or place everyone in more danger?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 14:34:16 GMT 10
You are all right! I think in this dramatised version they did not want to many dead bodies! LOL You will have a 24hr window to get out of dodge! 9 meals to anarchy.. 3rd day SHTF! if your lucky! Your fuel and supplies need to be secure! a drum or two like some food in the pantry while main supplies are secure! Having a kid walking round with a camera is not security! or allowing him to be in harms way!  If you need to go out, go as a group! Nate is right, shoot first, they are trespassing, give warning at your gate and fence line! One foot over deserves a head shot day or night!  If you are generous with your supplies, they will keep coming back  ! Even I would give food to kids, but every one has to prep for there families! And even though it breaks my heart!! My family first!  There will be a lot of preppers that will be like the people on the show! Having food and supplies is just one part of prepping and until people wake up to that fact then they won't survive!  There are so many things that can go wrong, even with a near perfect plan, so no we are not perfect, again it comes back to individual mind set and the will to survive!  We will have to wait till thing go wrong before we know what we need to do  , but in the mean time, plan, practice, evaluate, practice and keep ya powder dry!  |
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 21, 2013 14:37:35 GMT 10
Love the emoticons Dr Gaz!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 14:43:20 GMT 10
Yes I get a bit dramatical sometimes but I just want everyone to be safe!! |
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Post by beckles on Dec 5, 2013 18:22:51 GMT 10
Watching the show is what has taken me down this path of prepping - because whether it is a cyber attack (maybe here in Oz) or a natural disaster(more likely), given how financially strapped our state governments are, I think that maintenance to the grid is at a minimum. So I fully expect there to be no power for a week or two at some point. Just in our area in the Jan 2011 floods, even though our house wasn't flooded, we are near a river that flooded and lost power for 3 days. Now I happened to see the signs, watched the news and thought it was possible we'd be flooded in, and that morning, did a big shop at the local woollies for water, tinned food, gas for the bbq, extra LED lights, batteries etc. To be honest, I thought I was over reacting until I noticed that there were all these elderly people doing the exact same thing.
So it was nice to have those supplies on hand when we lost power the next morning. And while everyone else in the neighbourhood were sticky beaking at the flood water, I went to the only open service station and bought enough bags of ice to fill our eskies - the attendant was happy to sell the ice before it melted!
Hmm guess I have been a closet prepper for some time lol
I didn't understand how after two - three days the young couple (who live in a penthouse) were out of food?
Wayne, I think you would find that would be the case for a lot of young people - they eat out a lot, so don't have a lot of food to hand.
The one thing I thought silly with the prepper was that he went to all the trouble of having food hidden underground - why wouldn't he have done the same for the fuel? And if he had cameras around the compound that could be watch from in the bunker, then why not have the family sleep in the bunker at night and have someone on duty to watch the cameras at night? Surely that would have been a safer task for his son? Personally if I had the money to build an underground bunker on a remote rural property, then I would have all my supplies underground, nothing in the house and live in the bunker. That way, if someone did come and search the house, they would find nothing of value and move on. They do that enough times, word will get around (hopefully) that the place is deserted and not worth going back to.
Of course the only problem is if someone decides its a safe place to stay and moves in. So maybe no house at all?
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 5, 2013 22:36:38 GMT 10
My 2 bobs worth;
The positive from the show was that it highlighted the need to have some supplies on hand - even a non electric can opener, unlike the 2 knuckleheads in the penthouse.
As per the Doomsday preppers show, Mr Prepper was made out to be a tool. Yeah, I couldn't believe his power source and fuel for the bunker was so easily compromised. Lucky for him the power went back on when it did, and after a few hugs everyone was fine again!
I agree re the younger generation - the 23yr old stepdaughter and her oxygen thief boyfriend survive day to day - Maccas, Pizza, Fish & Chips etc. I doubt they have more than 1-2 days worth of food. Tried to talk to her re the importance of having a stash, but her attitude is that the govt will look after her, and if they don't she'll sue them ( so when i picked myself up off the ground from laughing so hard, I explained that if the SHTF good ol' govt will have more than enough worries than to keep her fed).
I found so many negatives with the show, but on a positive side, seeing the stuff ups by those people, I guess it helped me to be better prepared, and to be more aware of what is going on around me.
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Post by SA Hunter on Jun 29, 2020 0:39:09 GMT 10
Anyone else watched this movie??
Thoughts? Comments?
What did you learn from it?
Positives? Negatives?
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Post by frostbite on Jun 29, 2020 8:13:08 GMT 10
I watched this movie several years ago. I liked the filming techniques they used, added to the realism.
My main takeout was the prepper with the retreat made fundamental mistakes. You do not take untested or unknown people with you when bugging out, and his deep seated chauvinism resulted in a 50% reduction in his defence. His wife and daughter could have been just as capable of defending the perimeter as his young son.
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Post by spatial on Jun 30, 2020 21:08:00 GMT 10
It has been a very long time since I watched it, can't remember what all that happened, some crowd stuck in a lift, was a regular occurrence in Mongolia, I would walk 6 flights of stairs rather than take the lift.
There is a UK version on YT for free that I thought was much better. They also make the prepper look bad. This has been discussed before,might of been on another forum, they are both good watching for people not into prepping.
Not sue if this is the right vid.
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! Even I would give food to kids, but every one has to prep for there families! And even though it breaks my heart!! My family first! 
, but in the mean time, plan, practice, evaluate, practice and keep ya powder dry! 
