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Post by scoutmum on Nov 3, 2014 12:03:44 GMT 10
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Post by Ammo9 on Nov 3, 2014 13:00:02 GMT 10
Psychopaths get a bad rep I think. They're logical, efficient and are unlikely to panic in a crisis.
Though most aren't good team players...
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Post by Peter on Nov 3, 2014 14:57:46 GMT 10
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Post by wolfstar on Nov 3, 2014 15:26:04 GMT 10
Well its believed in some circles that sociopaths (the current popular term) and those with sociopathic tendencies are more common than you think because they're quite adept at blending in. Not all are loners, many do indeed play well in groups but are far more likely to be the leaders. They are also extremely protective of those they consider friends, allies and assets. I actually have a few friends who are sociopaths. They aren't always the violent scary people we are lead to believe.
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Post by wolfstar on Nov 3, 2014 15:26:48 GMT 10
Mind you some of those I'd trust with my life over most "normal" people I know.
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Post by Ammo9 on Nov 3, 2014 15:36:38 GMT 10
I helped a friend with her degree, she had to test people she knew with a quiz she created then assess the results and write about the types of people she had 'assessed'. Apparently I exhibit 17/20 or something like that of what are considered 'sociopathic traits' which sounds quite high I guess. I'm not sure I would consider myself a sociopath, though if I am it doesn't really make a difference to me. I'm still me in the end. I did read an interesting article that said a lot of successful business people and politicians are sociopaths or likely to be sociopaths.
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Post by Peter on Nov 3, 2014 15:49:20 GMT 10
I did read an interesting article that said a lot of successful business people and politicians are sociopaths or likely to be sociopaths. Politicians? I have no problem believing this. |
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Post by scoutmum on Nov 3, 2014 16:30:43 GMT 10
Well, here are my thoughts... I don't want anyone taking away my personal freedoms, especially someone who might decide that (for example) taking care of my small children or my older parents is not a good use of resources.
That is why I prep.
I have zero interest in living in a large urban area, and I can see how it would be very easy for things to go bad in a city; in fact, best case scenario for a lot of city people (especially un-prepped ones) would be a police state -- and I have zero interest in living in a police state.
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Post by Ammo9 on Nov 3, 2014 17:20:24 GMT 10
For the original poster, you've gotten off topic surprisingly quickly and inexplicably.
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Post by scoutmum on Nov 3, 2014 18:08:50 GMT 10
For the original poster, you've gotten off topic surprisingly quickly and inexplicably. How have I gone off topic? The basic premise is that in a survival situation, especially in a large metropolitan area, psychopaths should be put in charge, because they lack empathy and will therefor not be swayed by emotion. I'm saying I don't want someone making decisions for me that might, as I said below, decide that the weaker members don't justify resources. Not trying to be rude here, just don't understand how that's off topic. |
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Post by wolfstar on Nov 3, 2014 18:15:57 GMT 10
Often enough in survival situations the group is essential to the success of the socio themselves. So actually they are more inclined to do anything needed to ensure the survival of the group.
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Post by Ammo9 on Nov 3, 2014 18:17:55 GMT 10
That is already the case.
Also, I wouldn't follow any leader who put emotion before fact.
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Post by scoutmum on Nov 3, 2014 18:31:45 GMT 10
I agree that in a crisis situation you don't need a leader who is going to put emotion before fact. I just feel that that needs to be tempered by mercy and compassion. I guess my point (in my second post) was that I am not inclined to follow a leader (whatever his/her psychological state) and that is why I prep and why I try to be as self-sufficient as possible.  |
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Post by wolfstar on Nov 3, 2014 19:06:37 GMT 10
The only thing with socios, become a threat to the group and they'll kill you themselves. Or manipulate someone else to do it for them. But threats are always eliminated.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 3, 2014 19:13:45 GMT 10
I read that article too I believe. I think it was a British one that suggested that a high volume of Managers are sociopaths as they exhibit the right traits for Management positions. I take each person as they are.
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Post by Ammo9 on Nov 3, 2014 19:22:43 GMT 10
Haha wolf, working off the assumption that I'm a sociopath.. I haven't killed anyone.
However I don't have friends that aren't useful. If you're a waster with nothing going for you and no passion to change your luck then I've got no time for you.
If one of my friends or family is having a rough time and life is getting them down, I'm there for them 100%. But if you're a shit person and you're no good to anyone then I won't waste my time.
Doesn't mean I'll kill you, that's a bit too much. But I won't waste my time helping those who won't help themselves
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Post by wolfstar on Nov 3, 2014 19:29:24 GMT 10
Like I said not all are, but enough would just as happily drop you along the route with orders to never be seen again if you were perceived as a threat. Or worse from there. I know a few who would happily shoot threats to their groups on the spot.
The thing is with these guys, you're always going to get what you give. Treat them with respect and they'll be some of the best comrades you've ever had. Stab them in the back and you'd best have your funeral plans already paid for. Lol
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Post by Ammo9 on Nov 3, 2014 20:06:03 GMT 10
I wasn't talking about threats. Threats must be stopped
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Post by wolfstar on Nov 3, 2014 21:36:22 GMT 10
Big thing is the definition of threat level. Not willing to contribute but consuming resources and enjoying the group security? Nope. You're on the road on your a$$. Hurting members of the group especially anyone emotionally significant like kids and friends of the socio is cause for death usually. Just from patterns of reaction I've noticed myself. Some are more extreme and will shoot so you aren't going to come back with a gang instead of kicking you, making death penalty universal punishment. Then the only difference is in how long they make it take for you to die basically.
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Post by wolfstar on Nov 3, 2014 21:37:08 GMT 10
Oh and heaven forbid they catch you giving away supplies or info. Lol.
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