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Post by krull68 on Nov 4, 2014 22:24:47 GMT 10
ABC news: World 9-10 pm 4/11/2014
Due to the reduction in fuel production in Australia, we are 72 hours away from a catastrophe through lack of fuel.
Australian Govt has fallen on their promise to hold reserves of fuel for emergencies. Cost to get back to a proper level of fuel supply of 90 days, 6.5 Billion approximately.
Commercial Companies are not bothering to keep a higher supply.
Islamic groups are making direct threats towards Australia's supply lines, IE: bombing the ships bringing fuel, especially from the Middle East.
Those were the highlights from the program.
From the experts: If a natural disaster or terror attack on any of our supply depots here, food would run out in 4 days, transport would grind to a halt in 72 hours, water treatment and supply would stop, power stations would stop working (need front end loaders to get coal to the burners, and diesel electric trains to get it to the plants.)
In otherwords, the experts are saying we are on the verge of a catastrophe and they are scared.
The federal minister for energy (or whatever the dept is called these days) is not worried, as he said fuel is available for certain sectors (military, police) (think martial law).
Anyhow, this just shows that we are one disaster away, in one area, that can bring the whole system to a halt and drive us back to the dark ages.
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Post by Nighthawk on Nov 4, 2014 22:46:51 GMT 10
Well that's encouraging.
Not!
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Post by Fractus on Nov 4, 2014 22:50:43 GMT 10
Extreme exaggeration. It would take at least 96 hours to be a problem. Even then it is only a problem for those who want to eat and drink also those who did not prepare. Cavere
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 5, 2014 7:04:55 GMT 10
LOL nice one Fractus Good spotting Krull and thank you for sharing, this just highlights how fragile a system we rely upon.
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Post by Frank on Nov 5, 2014 9:14:12 GMT 10
Yep, very fragile system. No fuel = chaos. The country would grind to halt in a very short time, then the SHTF in a big way
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Post by krull68 on Nov 5, 2014 9:33:06 GMT 10
It was extremely lucky actually, the wife had just finished watching paroit, and I thought, I would quickly switch to the news to see if they had any decent things on rather than the usual propaganda (IE all right wingers are evil, all lefties are our saviours who will bring in some utopia or another, all the wile dragging us back to the Neolithic prestone age cause you arnt allowed to eat drink, walk, live touch a stone incase a rare species of bacteria lives under there, or a turtle maybe and you should all abort everyone post birth and lets just kill everyone for good measure). /rant off/
Sadly I was only able to get the last 3-4 minutes of it. But what I heard was enough to startle even the wifleberrykins.
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Post by Fractus on Nov 5, 2014 10:11:39 GMT 10
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Post by Frank on Nov 5, 2014 10:32:29 GMT 10
Thanks for finding and posting this fractus. I was having a look earlier but didn't find it, cheers!
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Post by Fractus on Nov 5, 2014 11:36:15 GMT 10
I am a google junkie
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Post by Matilda on Nov 5, 2014 13:05:57 GMT 10
We can build DeSal plants and wave generators (rotting on Port Kembla beach) based on a scam that are costing the taxpayer BILLIONS, but we have no fuel security. How the heck did WE allow this to happen?? NZers say 'she'll be right' and Aussies say 'she'll be right, mate'. Fuel is just as important as water. Without either we would quickly descend to a 3rd world country. Sigh.
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Post by krull68 on Nov 5, 2014 15:40:34 GMT 10
We can build DeSal plants and wave generators (rotting on Port Kembla beach) based on a scam that are costing the taxpayer BILLIONS, but we have no fuel security. How the heck did WE allow this to happen?? NZers say 'she'll be right' and Aussies say 'she'll be right, mate'. Fuel is just as important as water. Without either we would quickly descend to a 3rd world country. Sigh. How, simply by falling in with the watermelon party. green on the outside, full blown communist on the inside that's how! What many do not realise is the so called "green" groups are not interested in pulling people up, rather they want everybody either dead or living in the worst conditions possible, think of the worst place on earth, that has absolutely nothing, magnify that about 4 fold and you are getting close to what the "greens" truly want. For the masses that is, they on the other hand will live in luxury looking over the peasants slaving in the fields, complaining how revolting they are (there is a joke in that LOL)
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Post by Reyefull on Nov 5, 2014 16:48:31 GMT 10
Hahaha, get stuck into'em Krull!!!
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Post by Matilda on Nov 5, 2014 19:18:35 GMT 10
Don't get me started on them Krull. You only have to read Hal Colebatch book - Australia's Secret War - and what the unions/commo's did to our Fighting Finest in WW2, to see that Australian politics today are infected with them. I don't care what people think about the current Government. But I will say this. You might be mighty upset that you 'might' have to pay a piddling $7 to see a dr; or spend an extra 40c on fuel a WEEK; or our children are now going to learn by bringing back the 3RRRs. But our borders are now secure! Our Defence Forces are now being equipped to meet Australia's defences and the scam of the carbon tax which was costing much, much more than a drs visit or fuel in your car has been repealed. I have lived thru quite a few governments on both sides of politics, but never before have I felt fearful of my government than what I did when the socialists were in power. Australia dodged a bullet and we should thank our lucky stars that we are still able to contribute to this blog. On the day Gillard was rolled, there was a bill before Parliament to shut down ALL blogs/opinions/letters to editor etc that the Gov deemed unsuitable. quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2013/03/conroy-must-be-stopped/ We came within a hairs breath of loosing our democracy, our freedoms and our free speech. We should never fear our government. I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees.
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Post by graynomad on Nov 5, 2014 23:48:13 GMT 10
what the unions/commo's did to our Fighting Finest in WW2, When my dad's ship came back from the middle east during WW2 (Tobruk etc) the bastard dock workers would not allow supplies to be loaded, bad move on a mob of armed guys that had just spent years killing people Need I state that they got their supplies? I saw that program, posted about it on my FB page. When you start getting this sort of thing on the ABC current affairs progs you would think maybe people are taking notice...but maybe not.
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Post by Matilda on Nov 6, 2014 5:13:54 GMT 10
For those that have not heard about what happened to our Diggers in WW2, let me give you are few excerpts from Hal Colbatch's book. Look up Wiki to see his literary achievements are they are too great t list here.
Hal Colebatch’s new book, Australia’s Secret War, tells the shocking, true, but until now largely suppressed and hidden story of the war waged from 1939 to 1945 by a number of key Australian trade unions against their own society and against the men and women of their own country’s fighting forces at the time of its gravest peril. His conclusions are based on a broad range of sources, from letters and first-person interviews between the author and ex-servicemen to official and unofficial documents from the archives of World War II.
Between 1939 and 1945 virtually every major Australian warship, including at different times its entire force of cruisers, was targeted by strikes, go-slows and sabotage. Australian soldiers operating in New Guinea and the Pacific Islands went without food, radio equipment and munitions, and Australian warships sailed to and from combat zones without ammunition, because of strikes at home. Planned rescue missions for Australian prisoners-of-war in Borneo were abandoned because wharf strikes left rescuers without heavy weapons. Officers had to restrain Australian and American troops from killing striking trade unionists.
One of the most obscene acts occurred in October, 1945, at the end of the war, after Australian soldiers were released from Japanese prison camps. They were half dead, starving and desperate for home. But when the British aircraft-carrier HMS Speaker brought them into Sydney Harbour, the wharfies went on strike. For 36 hours, the soldiers were forced to remain on-board, tantalisingly close to home. This final act of cruelty from their countrymen was their thanks for all the sacrifice.
As Japanese forces attacked Milne Bay in 1942 and Australia and the US tried to rush reinforcements to the troops holding on there, Townsville watersiders refused to load heavy guns unless paid treble or, later, quadruple time. A small group of US soldiers, under a colonel who had trained Australia's first modern heavy artillery battery, eventually threw the watersiders off the wharf and loaded the guns themselves. By then the rest of the convoy had sailed. The guns reached Milne Bay too late.
When advance elements of the 7th Infantry Brigade on the SS Tasman reached Milne Bay in 1942, proceeding straight into battle, they found watersiders at Townsville had broken into the radio vans and taken the accumulators from the radio sets. Other waterside strikes caused Milne Bay to be supplied with anti-aircraft gun barrels without mountings. The Tasman was the target, as it ferried troops to New Guinea, of not exceptional but repeated strikes during each voyage.
In Adelaide in 1942, watersiders deliberately wrecked US aircraft engines by dropping them from cargo nets until American soldiers fired sub-machineguns. Sergeant E. D. Patton of the First Australian Corps of Signals recalled: "There were two incidents which occurred at Adelaide on our arrival from the Middle East in 1942 on the SS Jetersum. Our cargo consisted of 5000 tons of ammunition, 25-pounder field guns, 200 truck pens plus four Bofors 40mm anti-aircraft guns mounted on deck. The ammunition was covered by about 3000 tons of sand and 80 tons of gun cotton was below water level in the anchor-chain lockers.
"As soon as we tied up at the wharf, the wharfies came on board asking various members of the crew and army what we had on board, especially under the sand. Well, no one would tell them but they soon found out about the ammo and demanded danger money. Not receiving (it), they went on strike. The army was called in to unload the ship. In the meantime some of the wharfies would not get off the ship, so the army removed them.
"The ship berthed in front of ours was an American Liberty ship which was unloading Allison aero engines. When the cargo nets were lowered into the hold the engines in their flimsy crates were loaded, then the winch-driver would snatch the net up and swing it over the side and let it drop on the concrete wharf; as a result the engines were damaged.
"The Americans told them to stop dropping the engines, (but) the wharfies took no notice whatsoever. As a consequence the Americans armed themselves with Thompson sub-machineguns and fired a number of short bursts up in the air. That quietened them for about half an hour, so some of the crew produced some plastic stun grenades and dropped them down into the hold. That put a stopper on their shenanigans."
On the Brisbane wharves Australian watersiders also deliberately wrecked US P-38 fighter planes. According to another eye-witness, Ian L. O'Donnell: "They simply hooked the lifting crane on to the planes and, without unbolting the planes from the decks, would signal the hoisting engineer to lift, which effectively tore the planes to pieces."
On the same wharves, in August 1942, watersiders smashed the vehicles of an army battalion being rushed to New Guinea by dropping them from winches after soldiers with drawn bayonets had stopped them stealing food from the stores they were loading.
When No317 radar station was being set up at Green Island near New Britain, it was found that all the valves for the radar sets had been stolen by wharf labourers at Townsville. Without the valves the station was unable to go on air as scheduled, and a violent electrical tropical storm caught a force of two-seater American Vultee Vengeance dive bombers flying back from a raid on the Japanese base at Rabaul.
The storm upset the aircrafts' compasses and, even though they were in radio contact, they became lost. Without radar the station could not guide them home and they flew on until they ran out of fuel and crashed, as those listening on the ground heard. Two of the aircraft were found. Sixteen others were lost and the 32 men in them perished. James Ahearn, an RAAF serviceman at Green Island, wrote: "Had No317 been on air it was possible the doomed aircraft could have been guided back to base. The grief was compounded by the fact that had it not been for the greed and corruption on the Australian waterfront, such lives would not have been needlessly lost."
RAAF sergeant H. T. Tolhurst, who had opened the box marked "Radio valves - handle with care" and found it empty, said: "We believed that had we been on air it was possible that we could have guided those doomed aircraft back ... All of the personnel keenly felt the loss of those ... young lives. Our feelings were not helped by the scorn of the US Air Force personnel who became aware of the reasons ... and who tainted us with the contempt they held."
In September 1942, at South Brisbane, watersiders refused to work after midnight unless paid time-and-a-half when the 2/1Battalion, AIF 6th Division, was being rushed to New Guinea to defend Port Moresby. Jack Prichett, a sergeant with the 2/2 Battalion, AIF 6th Division, recalled: "As orders were to sail at 0300 hours with or without stores our (commanding officer) took charge and 14 platoon loaded the stores and we sailed late. It was essential that we got to Port Moresby to prevent the Japs capturing it."
These are a small sample of accounts that I have collected dealing with literally hundreds of incidents of wartime strikes and pilfering on the wharves from 1939 to 1945, as well as outright sabotage. During the course of World War II, virtually every major Australian warship, including at different times our entire force of cruisers, was targeted by strikes, go-slows or sabotage. ______________________
In a global economy, Australian's need to understand our manufacturing has been lost to overseas due union wage demands. It cannot compete. As countries worldwide claw themselves out of recession, depression and wars, we need to be able to compete. Things have changed greatly from 40 years ago. No longer can we expect to retire after working 40 years in the one job. My daughter has worked for the public service for over 10 years. There is such an air of entitlement there. The PS have amazing conditions but at whose expense? She is so indignant that she will only receive 1.5% rise in pay this year - not 3%. I tried to explain that the country's finances are a mess and everyone needs to understand that only a prosperous country can defend itself; pay its health professionals, its teachers etc. and provide the standard of living we have come to expect.
If the government is not getting enough taxes in to fund these areas, they have to borrow from overseas and they have to find money elsewhere. We cannot sidestep that!! We have 24million people in Australia and only 6 million work full time and another 3 million part time. Those workers are supporting the rest. For an intelligent 30yo, she just could not understand that she, like everyone else, has to tighten her belt. It's hard, it's unpopular, but we are no longer an island buying and selling within Australia. I had to remind her that Gough Whitlam ran out of money and what did he do? He sent our Troops home on 3 weeks annual leave WITHOUT PAY. This is how bad it got!
In the USA because of escalating debt, 27 states are now bankrupt! That means they do not have the income to pay their teachers, health workers, council workers etc. In some of these states, schools only open 3 days per week as they cannot pay their teachers who, like the teacher unions here, demanded more wages each year. This is the end result. Many, many families are now home schooling so their children can keep up their grades. In fact Net Schooling is booming. One teacher - 200 students online - has resulted in outstanding academic results. We want to pay our teachers and nurses etc the world. But if the patient or the student is not the issue and wages are - the outcomes will always be disastrous.
All I can say is that I'm so glad to be prepping. We know what is just over the hill and its moving at a break neck speed. It's too late for America - even though the Republicans won the mid-terms. The damage is too great and we are tethered to her whether we like it or not. 55% of Americans have prepped for the collapse. But 44% will expect the Government to bail them out. When they realise the Government will not be coming, they will be enraged. In Australia, I doubt if 20% are prepping, but the outrage will be just the same. So we have stepped up our prepping by getting rid of those things we no longer need and putting it back into prepping. We cannot know what the future will hold, but we can hold our future in our hands. No- one else can.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 6, 2014 6:40:03 GMT 10
Those are acts of treason, if that really went on, they should have been hung.
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Post by remnantprep on Nov 6, 2014 7:03:08 GMT 10
Great Article!
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Post by Joey on Nov 6, 2014 7:22:19 GMT 10
Greed is what makes the world turn. my view is the unions wouldn't need to push for higher wages if our retail trade didn't gouge everybody on prices. this is why so many people now are buying directly online from overseas as they can get it landed here still for half the price to buy it in the shops here.
Just like me,I'm considered"cheap Labour" at my mine being an apprentice, and that's why our workshops are run 7 apprentices to 2 tradies per crew, even though they are not following their own policies of 1 tradie/apprentice simply to save a few bucks.
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Post by Fractus on Nov 6, 2014 11:16:23 GMT 10
I heard a financial bloke on the radio yesterday arvo. He was asked about the fuel bottlenecks and effects. He seemed to believe there was a possible risk of interruption of supply but only short term. He mentioned also that Saudis had lowered the crude price by $2 as there is an oversupply at the moment due to US being self sufficient in fuels. He also mentioned that The Islamic state terrorists are selling oil. I would like to know who buys it and then an embargo should be put in place.
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Post by krull68 on Nov 6, 2014 18:06:52 GMT 10
I heard a financial bloke on the radio yesterday arvo. He was asked about the fuel bottlenecks and effects. He seemed to believe there was a possible risk of interruption of supply but only short term. He mentioned also that Saudis had lowered the crude price by $2 as there is an oversupply at the moment due to US being self sufficient in fuels. He also mentioned that The Islamic state terrorists are selling oil. I would like to know who buys it and then an embargo should be put in place. I would want to know who pays this financial bloke before I was interested in believing him. Too many financial blokes (and gals) are paid to keep the sheeple calm, then they are all "surprised" when it all goes south and say things such as, "No one could have seen this coming" and "This is a complete shock as there were no indications this would happen". Call me a cynic, but too many supposed professionals who are there to tell us what to think have BS'd us no end, all the while making millions from backing the opposite.
Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes.
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