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Post by krull68 on Nov 6, 2014 18:16:09 GMT 10
/rant on/
Sadly people just do not realise that communism only works while you still have other peoples money to hand out.
In the EU, they are all in debt by huge amounts, yet they borrow more money from other in debt countries to give other in debt countries bail outs. This under normal financial advice is a big do not do, you do not pay off credit cards with other credit cards. This is communism in action, pay with money that no longer exists. And those who do not know, nearly all EU countries are communist to one degree or another.
Look at France, they are so badly in debt, they put a 75% tax on anyone not in govt who owned more than 1 million euros. What was the outcome of this, all those who are rich, left the country, to which they decided to put on a 100% exit tax. The fools do not realise, you take everything off those who have, to not give to those who have not, and soon you will have nothing to take off anyone and nothing to keep whilst pretending to give to those who still do not have.
And don't get me started on communist style capitalism, we all know it as crony capitalism. just watch what obummer has done in the last 6 years, all those solar companies, get millions, within weeks of getting the money go bankrupt, and the money is all of a sudden gone, and no one knows where it is and no one is brought to task over theft of public monies (if the govt gives anyone money, it is the publics money, not the govts money, govts do not own any money what so ever).
/rant off/
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Post by Peter on Nov 6, 2014 18:19:47 GMT 10
I heard a financial bloke on the radio yesterday arvo. He was asked about the fuel bottlenecks and effects. He seemed to believe there was a possible risk of interruption of supply but only short term. He mentioned also that Saudis had lowered the crude price by $2 as there is an oversupply at the moment due to US being self sufficient in fuels. He also mentioned that The Islamic state terrorists are selling oil. I would like to know who buys it and then an embargo should be put in place. I would want to know who pays this financial bloke before I was interested in believing him. Too many financial blokes (and gals) are paid to keep the sheeple calm, then they are all "surprised" when it all goes south and say things such as, "No one could have seen this coming" and "This is a complete shock as there were no indications this would happen". Call me a cynic, but too many supposed professionals who are there to tell us what to think have BS'd us no end, all the while making millions from backing the opposite.
Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes.
Not to mention the selective instructions, questions and editing that often happens with such "experts". |
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Post by Fractus on Nov 6, 2014 20:48:14 GMT 10
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Post by graynomad on Nov 6, 2014 23:48:01 GMT 10
Matilda, thanks for that info, even knowing my Dad's story I have to say that as I read your excerpts I could feel my face getting red and my blood pressure rising in a way I've not felt for a long time. I never use the C word and seldom the F word but I can think of no other description for those bastards. How they weren't shot in the heat of the moment I have no idea. As I said in my post I have heard this first-hand story from my Dad, so I have no doubt that all the rest is true. As for what's happening in the world right now...I have to go for a walk before I really get mad...back later after I've had a talk to my wallabies and possums and cooled off a tad, "my" wildlife hangs around the house and I find that talking to them has a real calming effect. Who knows, maybe one day they'll talk back. 
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Post by Matilda on Nov 7, 2014 9:33:03 GMT 10
It upsets me terribly every time I read or post it too Gray, but I think we have a right to know as it as been kept quiet from Australians for way too long. It should be placed in every school library for 'required reading' - but it won't happen as there are too many socialists infecting our school system. How could another Aussie treat another Aussie this way? I believe they are Australians in name only. They are just parasites that nearly sucked her dry. And the socialists looked on our Diggers as the enemy. They were supporting a communist regime on the other side of the world. They felt no alliegences to a country that has sheltered them for decades - only hatred. This is why they treat our Diggers this way. They had no qualms about spitting on our returning Vets and if given the slightest opportunity to slander our present Defence Forces (like they did with our Navy and the illegals) they will do so. This is why when our new Government took office that they discovered that Defence spending had dropped to its lowest levels since 1939, there were no excuses only smug smiles across the dispatch box in Our Parliament from the socialists. The amount needed to close this gaping hole is causing a huge strain on our finances, but a country that is not prosperous cannot defend itself. Sobering, but nonetheless, true facts.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 7, 2014 21:16:42 GMT 10
So any news on the current fuel shortage? I may be asked to find diesel for our forklifts and trucks next week |
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Post by graynomad on Nov 8, 2014 0:21:14 GMT 10
They felt no alliegences to a country that has sheltered them for decades - only hatred. Now there's something that hasn't changed in some circles. This is becoming very topical of late. |
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 8, 2014 0:33:31 GMT 10
They felt no alliegences to a country that has sheltered them for decades - only hatred. Now there's something that hasn't changed in some circles. This is becoming very topical of late. This is something that really pisses me off actually, we are getting very off topic but you guys raised it. Seriously I will do anything for this country. I will support whomever is in government regardless of who I voted for. Why? because those are the rules. If you don't want to play by our rules, seriously go find another country that suits you. It warms my heart that you two see this, that you two raise this topic. Never before has this country been in such dire need of patriots, we had them in plentiful amounts one hundred years ago. Now the few that remain have been shipped off overseas to war or don't have a voice amongst the people. This poem keeps coming to mind "My Country" anyway, that is my rant guys. |
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Post by Frank on Nov 8, 2014 7:46:20 GMT 10
Yep, its bulls**t that that kind of thing happened (and still goes on).
Supporting your country should always be bigger then supporting any political party or ideal
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Post by Peter on Nov 8, 2014 7:51:17 GMT 10
Yep, its bulls**t that that kind of thing happened (and still goes on). Supporting your country should always be bigger then supporting any political party or ideal I agree 100%. The problem is that the current obsession with political correctness tells us that we shouldn't love our own country - because that makes us racist bigots against everyone else. The Greens are a case in point - every last one of them should be hanged for treason. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Nov 9, 2014 3:38:19 GMT 10
Those are acts of treason, if that really went on, they should have been hung. Nah, shot is quicker and easier. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Nov 9, 2014 3:43:46 GMT 10
With the shortage of the fuel reserves, would be interesting to see what the govt. will do about the potential find of fuel reserves in the outback. Initial estimates put it as being larger than Saudi Arabia's output ( there is a link somewhere else here, I'll find it ).
But good point made by all - give it a week, and it will all implode. Maybe a few days less in rural areas that are more dependent on road transport for their basic needs.
If nothing else, it would make sense to keep the car filled up whenever possible; ( sheesh, I have a 180l tank ), and a few jerry cans tucked away.
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Post by Peter on Nov 9, 2014 8:08:49 GMT 10
Those are acts of treason, if that really went on, they should have been hung. Nah, shot is quicker and easier. A rope can be reused. |
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 9, 2014 14:58:43 GMT 10
Those are acts of treason, if that really went on, they should have been hung. Nah, shot is quicker and easier. Depending on how the noose is tied and how much drop is involved, you get to watch them squirm for a bit. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Nov 9, 2014 23:19:56 GMT 10
Nah, shot is quicker and easier. A rope can be reused. But a bullet can be reloaded - any way, same outcome, different method!! |
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Post by Fractus on Nov 10, 2014 7:54:47 GMT 10
Just filled up the boss mobile from the jerry can as part of my recycling fuel storage. Only have 5 jerry cans and I try to have 3 full as a minimum and keep the cars all above half. Love to store more petrol but insurance could be a problem. Fuel runs out I can run the genny for about a week if I just use it for freezers and blip run it.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 20, 2014 6:53:09 GMT 10
This never came into fruition, any word on how we dodged the bullet?
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Post by Fractus on Nov 20, 2014 7:25:33 GMT 10
This never came into fruition, any word on how we dodged the bullet? I think the gist of it was/is a potential threat to fuel as we have little reserves and susceptible fuel transport lines. |
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Post by Joey on Feb 6, 2015 7:18:53 GMT 10
Politics. <http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2865770/doubts-over-australias-fuel-security-as-bureaucrats-admit-not-knowing-reserves/?cs=4219>
Doubts over Australia's fuel security as bureaucrats admit not knowing reserves.
By Heath Aston
Feb. 6, 2015, 12:15 a.m.
Senior government bureaucrats have admitted they do not know how many days worth of fuel is stored in Australia, raising further concern about the nation's fuel security and vanishing refinery capacity.
Department of Industry and Science officials were admonished by senators from all sides of politics at an inquiry into fuel sustainability after they initially claimed Australia had 55 days worth of fuel but then conceded they did not know and that stocks could actually be closer to 34 days.
Countries including Japan and the US have a mandated 150-day minimum fuel supply in storage and more when crude oil stocks are considered.
But Australia now imports 91 per cent of fuel as refined petrol after refineries were closed down.
Industry Department associate secretary John Ryan acknowledged there was no government policy on keeping a minimum fuel reserve in Australia or any level of refining capacity that must be retained.
Australia relies on a single mega-refinery in Singapore for half its unleaded petrol supply.
When pressed, Mr Ryan conceded that no one actually knows what stocks are kept because the monthly data collected by the department is voluntary and some fuel importers choose not to contribute statistics.
The department wants to co-ordinate with Customs and the Australian Tax Office to get more accurate statistics.
Liberal senator Bill Heffernan then accused Mr Ryan of having "no bloody idea" of fuel reserves.
"If tomorrow ISIS lands and blows up the Singapore [refinery] … the next day we are going to say 'shit, how much fuel have we got in Australia' and we will not know, will we?"
Mr Ryan replied: "No, that is right. I cannot."
But senators were even less impressed when Mr Ryan and his departmental colleague, Gino Grassia, general manager of the energy security branch, backpedalled on their original assertion of a 55-day current supply.
They conceded that would be under petrol restrictions. For example, during the 1974 oil shortage, fuel was rationed, with motorists allowed to fill up every second day depending on whether their numberplate began with an even or odd number.
Mr Grassia said at "average daily consumption" the national fuel stock was closer to 34 days – which he again conceded was an imprecise estimate.
Inquiry chairman Glenn Sterle told the officials they would be called to appear in front of the committee again and he would expect them to be better briefed.
"To be real honest with you, the way that you say 'maybe', 'sort of' and 'don't know', all I see now is a waste of Senate resources and time. Sorry, gentlemen, you have not briefed yourselves well enough for this. I think you should take stock and we will call you back again," he said.
On Wednesday, Senator Heffernan said he was "appalled" by the performance but said the bigger issue was the nation's ill-preparedness for any threat to supply.
"We don't have a contingency to run ambulances or police. Fuel companies said, "It's not up to us, make your own plans'," he said.
Senior executives of Caltex, BP, ExxonMobil and Viva Energy – the company that bought Shell's Victorian refinery – faced the committee.
They submitted an industry-written information sheet that stated: "Australia does not have a transport fuel reliability or security problem."
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Post by graynomad on Feb 6, 2015 11:09:00 GMT 10
So one bomb in Singapore and we're screwed, you couldn't make this shit up.
And remember that whatever the answer is, 34 days, 55 days, whatever, that reserve will be used for "essential" services, and you and I ain't essential. So on bomb day + 1 or 2 you won't be able to buy fuel.
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