Matilda
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Post by Matilda on Nov 17, 2014 11:15:03 GMT 10
I'm considering in putting together some Get Home Bags. Once a month or so I travel about 2 hrs by train in one direction sometimes alone but most often with hubby. I'm not really worried about around where I live as I would be in our car and the surrounds are familiar as I know short cuts, back roads etc. Couple of questions. If you were stranded and you had the means of staying in a motel overnight, would you or would you shelter somewhere out of sight? Also, I cannot find where you purchase those water packs that look like mylar bags. Most GHBs have everything except the kitchen sink! What would you consider the most important items to lighten that load? Do you are any plans in place for communicating with family or a half way rendezvous place in these situations?
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 17, 2014 11:42:11 GMT 10
How many days walk would it be home?
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Post by overlord on Nov 17, 2014 12:28:56 GMT 10
One suggestion I could make is to have a water bottle at the office which you can fill with water there when SHTF. This would reduce the concern for water. I now carry 1 800ml aluminum water bottle in my pack and have a spare at the office. In case a scenario happens, I would have 1.6L of water with me.
When am at the office, I don't worry much about the GHB since my condominium building is right beside (literally) my office building. It is when I will transfer to my new place in January or am assigned at a project that I would need to have both bottles. One would always be full which the other would have water for the day which can be topped up before I leave.
As to the meeting place, you would need a plan in place whether you would meet outside or get home first. An alternative also would be, if the home has been compromised, set a secondary meeting place.
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Matilda
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Post by Matilda on Nov 17, 2014 13:59:00 GMT 10
70klms Daniel. 4 Days??
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Post by overlord on Nov 18, 2014 12:17:59 GMT 10
A typical person walks at the speed of 3-5 km/hour. So assuming you walk 3Km in 1 hour and you walk 10 hours a day avoiding the hottest parts of the day. 2 to 2.5 days would be your walking time.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Nov 18, 2014 20:17:17 GMT 10
I would learn the terrain, map out your expected route or routes and learn where you will be able to find water or even food.
Might also pay to upskill and learn to locate these things on the fly if you are forced to take an unplanned route. I know it's not what you are looking for exactly but it is how I would tackle the issue. You could be like REs-Q and plant caches of supplies along your planned routes too.
Just some thoughts anyway.
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Post by Frank on Nov 18, 2014 20:20:03 GMT 10
I would try to keep it simple for a start and build up and change things over time if you feel the need. - Water and a way to purify it - Shelter, may not be a neccessary depending on where you are and where you are going but something to think about. Could be something as simple as a survival blanket, rain coat, lightweight bivvy. Or as you mention the means to get a Motel, so have enough cash on you in case no power or phones. - A way to make a fire. - Food. Lightweight and edible on the run or at least needs no cooking. Energy bars, emergency food bars/rations or canned food but these are heavy - Multi-tool - Spare socks (I hate walking in wet socks)
There are heaps of other items that could be added depending on situation and location, in the end its upto you and how much you want to carry. Have fun putting the bags together!
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Post by Peter on Nov 18, 2014 20:20:30 GMT 10
I think a GHB - and indeed a Get Home Strategy - is a brilliant idea. I'm currently planning my own, as my workplace is about 45km by road from home (although I do spend time up to 200km away for work). Although it would have to be pretty serious before I abandoned the 4x4 and risked it on foot.
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Post by Matilda on Nov 21, 2014 5:08:25 GMT 10
Thanks guys - much appreciated advise. I have looked on Alibaba - the Chinese site - for a bag that has the water bladder. You can nominate how many bags etc you want (you don't have to buy 1000) by using the 'amount' field. It will cut out many that supply in volume only, but there are 1000s of backpack manufacturers in China. There is some good ones around $20. I have downloaded the Google maps app to get an overall look at the terrain, including fire trails, minor roads that used to be main freeways but have been replaced by 6 lanes. The railway track would get me off the main highways but someone said it is hard going walking along a rail track (mentally) trying to walk on the sleepers than in between. I think these bags are as important as a BOB. I have sourced 'long life' water and also the life straw and its rival which looks pretty good. Watching the news last night where people that live in snow areas are trapped in their cars. One young woman said - 'I have no food or water and it looks like I'll be here for another day'. We are all vulnerable to nature and a normal day could turn very bad in moments if you are caught either side of a bush fire or flash flood. Walking shoes are another must. BTW We watch Doomsday Preppers and it's a show where you can watch to gleen or reject info. But the one we watched - Get out of New York City was excellent. If you can source a copy, try and watch. Love a link as I tried youtube. It's the simplest of information that you can use to the greatest effect. I got a lot of very useful tips and I reckon if you were into prepping as well as experienced in krav maga, motivator etc. and you wanted to earn some extra income, you could work as a 'mentor' to help people plan-design-walk thru-survive a threat in a city situation. Jumping back to the GHB, another item I would add is a Walkie talkie and this week at Aldi they had an 'on the go' charger for your mobile phone. For $12 to be able to charge your mobile in an emergency situation is reassuring. Thanks again guys!
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Post by Nighthawk on Nov 21, 2014 6:20:26 GMT 10
Big W had USB battery packs for smart phones for $10 a couple of weeks ago. I've been meaning to go back and get a second one
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Post by overlord on Nov 24, 2014 12:24:36 GMT 10
Nighthawk, try getting those 10-LED USB lamps. Pretty bright and good for about 30 hours or more on a 3000mAh Powerbank.
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