strop2: The numbers in Vietnam are still around 20 for the virus but most other gov'ts are hiding numbers due to tourism, and exporting. I expect cover ups to stop shortly and we will see how bad it is.
Feb 12, 2020 12:34:36 GMT 10
strop2: To China - where a scientist said that the coronavirus came from a meteor. The Coronavirus known as SARS came out of China in 2003, surely he could have fact checked his own statement...….
Feb 12, 2020 12:36:40 GMT 10
strop2: I just contacted HCMC - trying to get an exemption not to travel (airports and Planes are a cesspool of germs) and was told that people are now buying out food items at Supermarkets. These are all the nightmares coming true, I go shopping later today....
Feb 12, 2020 12:39:54 GMT 10
strop2: More local news - Vinh Phuc has 9 virus cases, 54 suspected and another 249 being watched and have set up a 300 bed field hospital. Vietnam is always very quick to act in a crisis.
Feb 12, 2020 15:58:02 GMT 10
SA Hunter: Seems to be well contained here in Oz - depends on what report you believe as to the severity of the virus.
Feb 12, 2020 22:22:48 GMT 10
strop2: I saw Australian news today that a diplomatic Peter Dutton ref China and still denying Chinese Students to enter Australia - a great response from Australia to contain the virus even with the number of Chinese visitors who had already entered.
Feb 14, 2020 10:24:14 GMT 10
strop2: China's economy and reputation are taking a huge hit - countries need to be strong. I think we are all wanting to know what the truth is and need everyone to be honest about this virus. All economies are taking a hit, buy local as much as you can.
Feb 14, 2020 10:28:32 GMT 10
strop2: Life goes on, I have harvested my latest rice crop 1,300kg 4 days ago (2,200sqm rice land), have lots of fruit trees at various stages of growth (4,000sqm of x rice land), 6 x boxes of noodles, water treatment filter, extra fuel for generator and 4 geese.
Feb 14, 2020 10:37:29 GMT 10
strop2: I can upgrade security at my Mekong House at anytime but currently Vietnam has had a great response to the virus. As long as people do the right thing and don't bypass the systems in place.
Feb 14, 2020 10:50:04 GMT 10
SA Hunter: Hi all - back from a weekend at the bol. More roofing supports built. Slowly getting there. Drove away feeling like I was finally accomplishing something.
Feb 16, 2020 15:25:47 GMT 10
frostbite: Are you building on your own, or have a trusty assistant?
Feb 17, 2020 15:44:42 GMT 10
SA Hunter: Mainly on my own - the young fella helps whenever he comes out.
Feb 17, 2020 17:10:22 GMT 10
steve: if you want up to date news on that virus go to larry hannigans web page he has plenty there 2 look at
Feb 18, 2020 8:50:36 GMT 10
SA Hunter: Welcome bugsyboy & pikelet.
Feb 19, 2020 16:41:12 GMT 10
Joey: A couple of UNI's in Aust are so desperate to get their cashed up Chinese students back on campus that they are offering to pay them $1400 cash for them to travel to a third country for the 14 days before being allowed into Aust
Feb 21, 2020 19:54:05 GMT 10
Joey: This is a loophole they discovered in the gov's ban on direct flights from China and now they must spent 14 days in Thailand or another country that has yet to ban flights from China and are paying for their hotels/spending
Feb 21, 2020 19:55:27 GMT 10
SA Hunter: When you consider most of their income comes from Chinese students, no wonder they will do whatever they can to have them enrolled - I mean, money is more important that people's safety.
Feb 21, 2020 21:22:25 GMT 10
Joey: Printing manuals: How do you pick what you want the print from all the manuals avail online, considering most are US based eg: plants/map reading/etc so that it's relevant to Aust?
Feb 24, 2020 13:02:03 GMT 10
SA Hunter: Hi all - Joey, I generally print the hands on manuals, even gardening & hunting. If it's too specific to US, downloaded for a read later.
Feb 24, 2020 18:44:44 GMT 10
Hi, I'm Jap and I'm looking into some small scale prepping, I can't afford anything to exapensive. If anyone knows any small affordable things that can be done please share. P.s I'm a teenager, but when SHTF I want to be prepared
Where to start... Well you have already started...
But first suggestions... Get the SAS survival guide (book)
Do as many hands on stuff in school as you can... Woodwork... Metalwork.. Gardening/hordaculture (sp) and geography...
Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: I can't promise you that I
will bring you all home alive. But this I swear,
before you and before Almighty God, that when
we go into battle, I will be the first to set foot on
the field, and I will be the last to step off, and I
will leave no one behind. Dead or alive, we will
all come home together. So help me, God.
Welcome Don't stress about your age I like many others started prepping as a teenager,or survivalism as it was called back then A lifetime of projects awaits you! learn as many Prepper related skills as you can And collect gear as the budget allows and improves Never keep your eye off the prepping ball!
Heya Jap, firstly join the forum proper, instead of just being a guest
I was a scout as a young teenager, we learned a lot about making fires, tying knots, building structures, hiking, camping, which teach you how to get by on less, I did a leadership course, first aid, cooking, survival camp and we even did a nuclear/post nuclear camp. Luckily we had active leaders who loved to camp and hike so we had an activity every second [and sometimes every] weekend. I don't know your current age, nor what scouting is like these days, though there were a TON of information I still hold as useful in those couple of years, 28 years later. The scout motto, 'be prepared' is a very old one. There's also groups for older teenagers and young adults. It's free to check out, might be worth a look.
As already stated a lot of knowledge is available on the 'nets', perhaps a bit daunting on where to start. To this I would suggest focus on what prepping is about, surviving situations, disasters and difficulties. What? I'll get to that, the reality of these events is that small events impact people in your life are occasional and likely eventually, such as having a spare tyre is prepping and being able to change it is being prepared if you do have a flat. Of course major events as TV shows focus on are probably never going to happen, prepping is about making sure you've got options in the minor events and the major events. So, with knowledge, you have options.
For survival humans it's been said that we have 3 mins to find air, 3 hours to have shelter, 3 days for water and 3 weeks for food. So we want to remember those areas of focus. When I was in scouts we learned that even a day hike we carry some water and something like a space blanket [for shelter] as well as suitable clothing, a pocket knife and some trail mix [dried fruit and nuts]. We went with more than ourselves and we told someone who's not going where we were, the path we were going and when we would be home. This is so people could find us if we had a problem. These days, we'd have a phone and probably a spare battery. With the space blanket we have shelter and warmth. Similar principles apply, we prep to have options.
Water In a cyclone, the typical cry is to fill the bathtub for good reason, we need water! Sure you can spend $4 and get a 10L aldi water container, or fill well cleaned [detergent] old soft drink containers filled with tap water [which works just fine] for free and it's worth looking and thinking about other sources too. Is there a lake, pond or pool nearby? How do we make the water safe to drink? These are things we would want to undestand and that costs nothing.
Did you know that many hot water units hold 250L of water? Did you know we need about 4L/day, some for drinking and some for a little cleaning. So maths is useful in that a typical hot water service holds 2 months water for 1 person and is almost always full. Some hot water services are larger and some are instant hot water and store no water.
Food Did you know that those soft drink containers have a silicone seal on top and make great long term storage containers for things like rice and beans if you keep them out of sunlight? Prepping, at least to my mind, is about independence, so using mums rice might be a free start, but it's not the same as you doing a paper round/mowing etc and earning a few dollars to spend on some rice. Learning independence is an important part to prepping and when you're paying for it yourself you will spend a LOT more time being careful to what you spend it on, you'll look for the special prices [.10-.12c/100g is decent]. Rice in those clean drink containers is a pretty good deal to start with. Some other thoughts might be, do you know how much energy humans need? How much rice would you need in a day? It's not very much actually as you'll discover. Whilst energy [Kilojoules] is important, what else do we need? Eventually after doing some research, you'll figure out how little you need for a weeks worth of food and you might save up and eventually buy a week to begin with. The rice and be__s is about as cheap as you can start. Do you know how to cook them? Can you cook them without power/gas? Well you can sprout most be__s [not all!! do research as to those you cant.] and soak rice and whilst not too fun to eat [try it and find out] it would keep you going. Sure you could collect cans of food of what you 'normally' eat, but the costing is far more.
Prepping is not just about collecting stuff, it's also about renewing what you need for survival. So when it comes to food, how do we grow it? Seed is 'very' cheap and you can get it from the supermarket, or even collect them from vegetables [tomatoes for instance] or grow some potatoes or carrot from a piece cut off. I've currently got some garlic that self sprouted in my kitchen window that I'll put in the garden in a couple of days. Learning how to grow a small veggie patch is a GREAT prepping task and you can learn a lot about soil quality, responsibility [watering!], patience and a respect for where food comes from etc.
Mostly, have fun and remember the chances of SHTF are extremely small in your lifetime, so work on having a good life whilst you're at it. How do you prep for a good life? Prepping is 'insurance', like that spare tyre, a part of your life, not 'your life', a balance of things is a good plan for life.
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Post by newcastleprepper on May 20, 2015 19:21:21 GMT 10
Mate you came to the right place. The guys here are all about free knowledge and always happy to share. You can have all the prepps in the world if you dont know how to use them they wont help you. Iv found alot of usefull little items on ebay gumtree and amazon.
Post by newcastleprepper on May 20, 2015 22:34:03 GMT 10
Ohh thats a great place to start scoutmum. With those skills you can make many of your own preps and with a garden you can cut much of your food bill down and take a huge step towards independence and self reliance wich is 1 of the main goals of prepping