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Post by Ammo9 on Sept 11, 2015 14:46:47 GMT 10
Who's got some ideas on ways to boil water, preferably indoors, without mains utilities?
Butane camp stoves and dragging the LPG bbq indoors both present carbon monoxide hazards from memory, wood fire would also obviously be less than ideal and we don't have a fireplace or wood stove. I'd also like to avoid methods that would draw attention to the house as I'm smack bang in the middle of suburbia and don't want to single the house out for any reason.
So... anyone got any other ideas?
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Post by Peter on Sept 11, 2015 14:55:03 GMT 10
I'll have to look this one up, but years ago I saw someone cook by passing the current from a car battery through a metal pan (via wires of some sort). I don't recall the full details of the process, but I know I used resistance wire once (many years ago) in high school to get a small piece of metal literally glowing hot.
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Post by crrrock on Sept 11, 2015 14:59:33 GMT 10
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Post by Ammo9 on Sept 11, 2015 15:11:15 GMT 10
The problem with electrifying a pan is the chance of electrifying the water means the potential to generate hydrogen and oxygen gases which could cause an small explosion, but it's an option
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Post by Peter on Sept 11, 2015 15:11:31 GMT 10
I suppose using 12v cookers (as used in boats & caravans) could be one option.
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Post by Ammo9 on Sept 11, 2015 15:12:39 GMT 10
I'll google those soon
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Post by Frank on Sept 11, 2015 15:48:16 GMT 10
My guess would be the 12V options, you can get kettles for your car if I remember correctly.
Apart from that metho/alcohol burners as suggested by crock would be an option.
For a straight fire option, would a "Kelly kettle" type thing work as it only needs a very small and contained fire to boil water?
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Post by wellrounded on Sept 11, 2015 17:15:43 GMT 10
Buy an LPG stove. Safe for indoors etc. Just look for anything that us country folk use, no utilities here. There are hundreds of models available. Just bought a 5 burner hotplate, just needed to change the jets (LPG jets came with it). If you're concerned about CO, buy a detector, they are under $10.00 now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 19:27:56 GMT 10
Stock up on tea light candles perhaps?
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Post by shinester on Sept 12, 2015 2:22:43 GMT 10
Nice vid nobody. I hadn't thought of using candles like that.
I think if you're doing that next to a window that's open it wouldn't be too much of an issue with carbon monoxide. Portable Gas stoves or even a bbq in your kitchen [ha] are perhaps a little more efficient and if they've got a blue flame, shouldn't be any worse than town-gas for CO.
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Post by peter1942 on Sept 12, 2015 15:25:48 GMT 10
I gather from the original question by austemplar that you are presuming that you are in a situation where the services/utilities are down and that you want to make a hot drink or suchlike without the neighbours aware of what you are doing.
Now as a prepper faced with that situation you should, in your stores, have an alternative to having to heat water as that to me is what prepping would/should be all about.
If you were in a position where you had to bug out I could just about guarantee that you would have to do without many of the services that you are presently used to and the lack of hot water may be the least of your worries.
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Post by Ammo9 on Sept 12, 2015 16:57:31 GMT 10
Yeah pete but this thread isn't about doing without boiling water, it's about facilitating that objective of boiling water to enable cooking of various foods such as rice and pasta.
We can all just say "dont bother, baked beans are good to go" but that's not really being helpful, is it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 17:07:44 GMT 10
Is there an invention for a solar powered kettle yet? Like have a small battery built into the kettle enough to boil water a few times and small mobile solar panel charger you could put on a window sil or hang out a window. What battery requirement would one need to power up and boil a full 1.7 litre jug?
In saying all that i would suppose just having a good solar setup to run mains power would be ideal pshtf.
The gas idea earlier up sounds like the most feasible, bang for buck and safest option mentioned by wellrounded for those without solar power or a few thousand tea light candles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 17:09:05 GMT 10
Yeah pete but this thread isn't about doing without boiling water, it's about facilitating that objective of boiling water to enable cooking of various foods such as rice and pasta. We can all just say "dont bother, baked beans are good to go" but that's not really being helpful, is it? I can handle cold baked beans on occasion, but i gots to have a hot cuppa tea! |
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Post by Peter on Sept 12, 2015 17:30:41 GMT 10
There may also be scenarios in which using boiling water to sanitise various items may be useful, particularly if sanitising chemicals are in short supply or potentially ineffective against certain germs. Pandemic kit contents come to mind, as do other FAK and medical items.
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Post by SA Hunter on Sept 12, 2015 17:46:06 GMT 10
I have small attachments that screw onto a small gas bottle (not sure of the names) - I have experimented with them indoors, and do a pretty good job.
ATM our local KMart has them reduced for $18.00, and the butane cylinders are $4.00
We have been using a single butane burner indoors to save on gas/electricity, and they also work fine. As long as the room can be aired, they'll work ok.
Just have to close windows when cooking food.
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Post by Peter on Sept 12, 2015 19:35:52 GMT 10
Maybe on a slight tangent, I remember the bunsen burners and heat resistant glassware we used in high school chemistry. I haven't seen a bunsen burner for years, but that could be an option (assuming they're available, which I'm guessing they would be).
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Post by wellrounded on Sept 13, 2015 12:20:14 GMT 10
If your after that kind of lab supplies Mr Pete try Wiltronics-research on Ebay. I've been buying form them for a few years and they are good to deal with. Lots of fun glassware, I love their reagent bottles  They carry a heap of handy stuff. |
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Post by Peter on Sept 13, 2015 14:24:20 GMT 10
I'd never thought of getting chemistry equipment before now, but I'm always interested to look at a variety of less common items. There may be useful bits & pieces that fill a void in my preparations.
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Post by Peter on Sept 13, 2015 14:38:07 GMT 10
Thanks for that tip wellrounded - they have some great stuff. The 2L glass beakers would be very handy in the kitchen (especially where decent quantities of preservation is happening), the dissection kit could be a very handy addition to the FAK at 30-odd bucks, and the test tube shot glasses appeal to the me of 20-odd years ago. |
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