VegHead
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Post by VegHead on Aug 9, 2018 8:22:29 GMT 10
An interesting thought. I will give it some discussion at home I think.
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Post by doglovingjim on Aug 9, 2018 14:58:36 GMT 10
I think if I was bartering I'd only barter in knowledge/labour or excess consumerables, I wouldn't gamble with essentials (things I use/need). Even excess consumerables is risky since it gives people an idea of what I have, so I'd have to be really gritty on the exterior like I'm desperate and have nothing else.
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Post by spinifex on Aug 9, 2018 17:26:39 GMT 10
Don't trade anything 'productive' for anything 'consumable.' That's an excellent point. I suppose the old hen only ever went in the pot when it stops laying, after all... Yep. And by extension: trade consumables for consumables (example: eggs for fish) or productive for productive (example: Wheelbarrow for a roll of bird wire) The best trade of all being when you acquire something productive in return for something consumable. (example: a rabbit trap for a dozen eggs.) With that last example you'd have to be living at a location where there ARE rabbits to trap and probably be trading with someone who has the trap but no rabbits to catch. Which highlights another tenet of trading: The further the distance between trading parties the greater the opportunities (usually) for exchange. |
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Post by spinifex on Aug 9, 2018 17:34:58 GMT 10
Interesting discussion - if you have something to barter, then you obviously have something you DON'T want to barter! That's what I'd be thinking. And when does the bartering stop?  Not a problem really. People trade in downtown Mogadishu to get what they need in life ... they make it work! All successful human existence requires trade ... All cultures do it. Always have. Always will. Under all kinds of circumstances. I guess that's why group organisation is important too. Safety in numbers. Anyone who's a hard-core isolationist may well be taking much higher risk getting into trade. |
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Post by Peter on Aug 9, 2018 19:51:23 GMT 10
With that last example you'd have to be living at a location where there ARE rabbits to trap and probably be trading with someone who has the trap but no rabbits to catch. Which highlights another tenet of trading: The further the distance between trading parties the greater the opportunities (usually) for exchange. A classic example of supply & demand. Even when the economy is gone, the laws of economics will still apply (even though they'll apply in a somewhat different way). |
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Post by spinifex on Aug 10, 2018 13:35:34 GMT 10
Trading is actually one of the main reasons why I put a lot of time and effort in figuring out how to grow good pineapples. Where I live ... nobody else will be growing them and if the supply chain breaks down and makes Queensland grown pineapples un-affordable in South Oz I will be well placed to be able to supply a rare fruit to the local market.
I'm also researching and experimenting (unsuccessfully to date) with propagating and growing black pepper vines down here. Eventually I'll learn the secret ... and if nothing else have my own supply of fresh green pepper berries for my Asian cooking pursuits.
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Post by SA Hunter on Aug 11, 2018 0:48:05 GMT 10
Trading is actually one of the main reasons why I put a lot of time and effort in figuring out how to grow good pineapples. Where I live ... nobody else will be growing them and if the supply chain breaks down and makes Queensland grown pineapples un-affordable in South Oz I will be well placed to be able to supply a rare fruit to the local market. I'm also researching and experimenting (unsuccessfully to date) with propagating and growing black pepper vines down here. Eventually I'll learn the secret ... and if nothing else have my own supply of fresh green pepper berries for my Asian cooking pursuits. I tried growing pineapples too - no good - but I saw another way to grow them on a gardening show, so I'll try that one when it warms up a bit more. |
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Post by spinifex on Aug 11, 2018 9:22:09 GMT 10
I have a recurring dream of growing a mango tree down here. I do enjoy a nice Kensington Pride at full ripeness. Would have to build a tall greenhouse and keep the tree carefully pruned but I think its do-able. Would be worth it even for a couple of dozen fruit.
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Post by Peter on Aug 11, 2018 18:48:38 GMT 10
There's a family in Harvey (that's about 140km south of Perth) that grows mangoes commercially. Surprised the heck out of me when I found out.
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Post by WolfDen on Aug 11, 2018 19:15:14 GMT 10
My sister in law has a mango tree in her backyard. Gets a surprising amount of fruit each season. Oh and she is allergic to them haha
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Post by spinifex on Aug 12, 2018 10:00:17 GMT 10
Where's that? Is she in the colder southern regions? One of my kids reacts to mango juice on their skin but can eat them.
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