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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 28, 2016 19:11:32 GMT 10
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Post by jo on Mar 28, 2016 20:32:43 GMT 10
What an awsome speech
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Post by krull68 on Mar 28, 2016 20:40:40 GMT 10
Listened to it and read the translation a few days ago. Finally, someone gets it. Wahhabi Sunni islam has declared war on the world. It is time to accept that and give them an ultimatum. Peace or Hiroshima.
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Post by shinester on Mar 29, 2016 5:16:23 GMT 10
It saddens me deeply that we can't just all get along, the Europeans have tried and failed. Unfortunately the idea isn't shared by other cultures and understanding that we don't think the same and that we have differing values and that Islam is about a political and a religious movement is absolutely important to comprehend. The easy and peaceful solution is to remove social welfare, 90% of immigrants in some areas are out of work even after 5 years, those who stay will have a vested interest in contribution to a society.
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Post by SA Hunter on Mar 29, 2016 10:07:34 GMT 10
The unfortunate thing is that in some places it is too late. Some cultures/religions cannot and will not integrate!!! And if they scream loud enough, they get their own way. I have no problem with taking in migrants ( my parents were accepted here after WW2 after immigrating from Ukraine/Russia via German camps ). Many of my friends were born overseas, mostly Asians. They integrate, speak the language ( very funny accents I must admit ). When an ethnic group is received with open arms, then demands we turf our way of life and abide by theirs, well, that's when a one way ticket to their former homeland is warranted. What's sad, is that now Europe is still opening it's arms wide open to more and more immigrants, while to be outspoken, or even question their govt makes you labeled a bigot, racist, and even have you arrested. Wonder how long we can stem the tide here? ?
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Post by shinester on Mar 30, 2016 7:58:07 GMT 10
It's not too late if they have no means of supporting themselves. When you have refugees who have 35% illiteracy in their own language, with no means of support they probably will riot, they will cause problems though ultimately they'll leave and go back to the place in which they can support themselves. There's other issues such as the IQ with the average being about 85 for the middle east which in a mostly 100 IQ society [most of Europe] puts you at a great disadvantage.
There are ways immigration can work, when cultures are similar or there are smaller numbers, again the first wave is almost always the most intelligent people trying to get out of the hellhole that is their orgin country so they can proper better. They do much better because of course. Asians [Chinese/Japanese] have an average IQ of 104 or so, which gives them a slight advantage. An example of this can be seen in Ashkenazi Jews [European Jews] who came to the US before WW2. They learned the language and took 5 years to equal the local population income. That has a lot to do with have an average IQ of 115.
Assimilation has more to do with IQ, similarities in culture and lower numbers and the desire to integrate. If you have people who don't have to contribute [welfare] who have a free ride, who have lower IQs [85 or in some places in Africa as low as 67] and who have no job prospects, who come in large groups what you're doing is moving the country, the politics, the problems to your country. We're seeing this right now, where the views and interests are not about Europe but rather about the medieval abomination that Sharia law is. Parts of Africa have populations where 1/3 of men 'admit' [that is it's probably higher] to rapping a women sometime. Think about it, if you turned up with 50,000 people from Australia into another country in one area, you're not going to integrate, you'll form your own mini-country. The Greeks [who aren't that different from most of those who live here and therefore integrate reasonably well] many of which came to Melbourne still have cultural ideas from the 60s despite Greece having grown a lot since then.
The real question to ask is 'Whats in it for me' or more specifically what's in it for our country? It's selfish of people to want to 'do good' at the cost of what is good for a country. If you've got an Engineer and lets say we need more of them from Egypt, then awesome. If we have a bunch of unskilled, low IQ, rapists then it's an abomination.
Then there's the question of, if Europe [US/AUS/NZ] is so appealing then why haven't the origin countries modeled their values, their beliefs and enjoyed the same prosperity, the same peacefulness etc? If they were interested that much in those ideas that lead to the properity then they'd be doing it at home where it's far far easier than having to learn a new language etc. It's clear that there's no interest in pursuing this path within the country, so the chances are that there's no chance of it being a part of the mini-country that moves. Putnam's work [he's a lefty btw too] illustrated that differing cultures not only brings mistrust between cultures but within a culture. That is showing that it breaks the fabric of trust in a society, which is the foundation of win-win negotiation, aka trade and therefore wealth.
Ultimately it's like liking a girl [or guy] who doesn't like you back, you might get used and until you admit she doesn't like you no matter how much you like her, you'll keep getting used.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 21:40:55 GMT 10
That guy has some large cahoonas... Good on him, our pollies are too busy kissing ass to stand up and speak the truth. All we hear are lies and bullshit!
Yes it is to late, the white Australia policy was right for us, now they take anyone and won't make them/or they just refuse to assimilate into Aus culture.
I am all for helping people, but these people want to change the country they flee to as theirs. I feel sorry for their suffering but their own governments and religious leaders are to blame. Greed, dishonesty, political agendas and religious and ethnic feudalism is part of the blame, the rest belongs to the wealthy people and companies and other country's financial and political greed/agendas
It's no different to inviting some one to your home and either they disrespect you our try and displace you! How do you react to that! Or some one comes in with out your permission. What do you do???
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Post by shinester on Mar 31, 2016 7:06:05 GMT 10
Treat people as they treat you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 8:35:28 GMT 10
Treat people as they treat you. I try and treat people how I would like to be treated, but if they shit on me...well that's another story...
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Post by shinester on Mar 31, 2016 9:33:53 GMT 10
Talking the same language my friend.
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