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Post by remnantprep on May 20, 2016 15:31:28 GMT 10
(This is a scenario based on the possibility that the USA has been weakened and can not come to the aid of other nations!)
The year is 2017 and in August the Chinese invaded Vietnam and the Philippines over the conflict with the Spratley and Paracel Islands! Japan has warned China that they need to withdraw by the 1st of October or war will be declared between them! The USA having being through an economic and social collapse due to a civil war between Northern and Southern states is unable to come to the assistance of Japan! Europe has troubles of its own with the growing threat of ISIS expansion into Europe. Russia and Turkey are close to war as Russia has warned the Turks to withdraw from Northern Syria after they attacked to secure Turkeys border! Britain having left the EU in 2016 has once again sovereign control and have decided to come to Japans aide! Indonesia having formed closer ties to China because of some major trade deals has allied itself with China!
Britain and Japan have called on Australia to put pressure on China to withdraw from Vietnam and the Philippines by October 1st or war will be declared between China and Australia!
Allies: Britain, Australia, Japan! Asian Axis: China, Indonesia!
China does not withdraw by the time given and now Australia finds itself at war with Indonesia bearing down from the North and China coming up from the South having first captured the Marshall Islands, the Solomon Islands and New Zealand! The Indonesians are planning on taking the Northern part of Australia from Darwin to Cairns while China will attack on 2 fronts at Sydney and surrounds and Brisbane and surrounds!
(Please continue the scenario of what would be possible outcomes and also add in any other countries that may come tot he aid of either side!!!)
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Post by myrrph on May 20, 2016 16:02:47 GMT 10
i agree that Australia doesn't need a foreign nation to kill its citizens. The native wild life is sufficient.
and even more so China. BUT.
That doesn't mean Philipines and Vietnam are safe. That scenario is frighteningly plausible.
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Post by remnantprep on May 20, 2016 16:04:54 GMT 10
Ok so lets say the Yanks are determined not to involve themselves due to the issues suggested above and are unwilling to use nukes on anyone (Yeah this is a fictional account ahah)! Let's say Indonesia and China have been successful in their objectives, and we have lost Darwin, Cairns Brisbane and Sydney and areas surrounding those places! Where too next? Anyone else that may come to our aid? Japan is busy fighting in Vietnam and Philippines, Britain has split themselves between us and Japan!
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Post by Ammo9 on May 20, 2016 19:10:51 GMT 10
Hopefully NZ moves troops into Vic and assists mounting a resistance there or attacks the fleet and supply lines off the east... of wait didn't they sell their navy?
In the situation where darwin, and the east coast are under indo/chinese control.
Most likely that Indonesia controls Darwin and the Chinese have moved a fleet off the east coast and landed troops in major cities.
If major centres are lost, chances are all forces in Darwin and QLD were wiped out or scattered with equipment destroyed or captured... that's most of our army and lots of our airforce and navy based there.
SF teams in NSW and WA would likely split with their small arms and concealable equipment and conduct insurgency ops.
All patriots would hopefully take up arms, knives, spoons against our aggressors.
I was a right bugger in high school... naughty boys annoy the teacher. Same principle, just risking death or torture if they catch you chewing gum
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Post by remnantprep on May 20, 2016 20:56:53 GMT 10
Love your reply Austemplar! In the scenario above though NZ was already taken by China so we would be assuming that NZ troops have retreated to Aus!
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Post by shinester on May 20, 2016 23:11:18 GMT 10
China has a gigantic army, moderately trained, and whilst probably not the most modern equipment has plenty of it. Australia has quality, well trained forces, yet very low numbers. There's no match, we're toast in a stand up fight.
Australia is a vast land mass to hold, with their forces spread out along long supply lines, I can't imagine that they'd want to hold the whole country. What do China want here, they would want resources for manufacturing more armaments in such a scenario, so coal, iron, gas mostly. So they'd probably bomb the crap out of the infrastructure to make life hard and take and hold ports as well as mining areas and could do that with relative ease with their equipment and numbers. Of course I can't imagine a country who as mates insult each other would be ok with that, so there'd be lots of people nipping at their ankles wherever and whatever they did. Trying to take street after street of the urban sprawl that makes up most of the coastal [and populated] regions would be a nightmare even with great numbers.
I can't imagine NZ being at all comfortable for China either. Occupying a country is a very difficult task that takes great resources. Look at history, France, Poland, Iraq... quite significant resistance against far superior forces.
Having said that who knows what dictatorial doctrine [lets not forget it is a one party dictatorship] would be instituted in such an environment, the response might well be genocidal to resistance.
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Post by Ammo9 on May 20, 2016 23:20:07 GMT 10
I've seen PLA training and demonstration videos... Even met a couple.
I reckon 1 aussie fox shooter is worth 50 chinese soldiers.
I'm comfortable with my wolverinabilty
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Post by tyburn on May 21, 2016 0:41:59 GMT 10
Having lived in China for almost two decades, I would say that the average person's planning abilities aren't especially good (not to mention lack of what we call commonsense), while many people just go their own way and do their own thing unless someone is in charge and telling them exactly what to do all the time. Have seen many plans go to shit, or changed every two days due to not thinking anything through properly. So, I imagine that they would take objectives through sheer force to begin with, after which everything would unravel as the grunts at the sharp end messed stuff up.
I don't know how long the Indos and Chinese would be able to work together for either. Indonesians (and other southeast Asians in general) are looked down on by the average Chinese (who are taught from a young age that China used to be the greatest nation, with everyone else being from inferior states), while I have a feeling the Indo's muslim traditions and customs wouldn't be appreciated by the Chinese at all. The Chinese media also periodically brings up the anti-Chinese pogroms over the years in Indonesia, and that revenge needs to be taken, so I can't see that relationship ever really lasting that long (or even starting in the first place).
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Post by graynomad on May 21, 2016 9:07:25 GMT 10
Due to a navigation tubesteak up the surviving NZ soldiers arrive in the port of Bundaberg. After a brief fire fight with the Indo garrison they liberate the port and subsequently the town of Bundaberg and the all-important rum distillery.
Emboldened both by their recent success, and maybe a little too much rum, the Kiwis press inland where they join forces with the Moolboolaman Militia (affectionately known as the M&Ms by the local populace, partly because it was the initials of the militia's alliterating name, but mostly because with the average rotundness of the militia's members the abbreviation just seemed appropriate). The M&Ms have been harassing the Indos since they formed at a cowboy action rendezvous that took place shortly after enemy forces landed in Darwin. In general their weapons are no match for the Indo's modern firearms but they have managed to employ guerilla techniques with some success and have really gotten the enemy quite upset with the practice of stealing lead flashing from roofs to mold into 577 caliber minie balls for their muzzle loaders.
The combined Kiwi/M&M battle group (now known as Strike Force 1 because it sounded cooler and also the Kiwis though that any association with round chocolate was not really appropriate under the circumstances) is now a force to be reckoned with and before long the entire Burnet district is under militia control. As this is one of the few areas of Australia that is not enemy-occupied the government decides to move all remaining politicians and shiny-bums to the district, and in a strange twist of fate (due to Bundaberg being too close to the ocean and more at risk of invasion) they declare that Gin Gin is now the seat of government and that Ollie's Tyre Emporium will be the new parliament house. Ollie's being chosen because with an existing hot air supply the politicians felt right at home.
Needless to say now that the top shiny bums were safe things went tits up shortly afterwards, with plans for appeasement talks with the Indos on the agenda.
This enraged the militia leader (Bill, who after many months of bloody conflict had become known as "the Burnet Butcher", although looking back I think he was called that for years before the conflict). Bill was known for his direct — and often colourful — language. "You don't appease the c*nts, you shoot them" and "I'd rather try to shove a limp noodle up a honey badger's arse in a phone booth than negotiate with those pricks". To this day it's still unclear if the "pricks" referred to are the Indos or the government.
Anyway it reached a point where the militia leader openly challenged the acting Prime Minister and as Bill's Burnet Butcher shop was right nextdoor to Ollie's Tyre Emporium the two leaders duked it out in the car park. Given that Bill had spent most of his life wielding a heavy meat cleaver at lamb shanks, and the PM was an investment banker with greased palms that couldn't get a grip on anything let alone a butcher, the result was a foregone conclusion.
Under pressure to be merciful, and against Bill's better judgment, the PM and his cronies were shipped off to Indo-controlled territory rather than just being shot then and there. It was assumed that the recently evicted appeasers would sing like canaries so as a security measure parliament house was renamed to HQ and everything inside was relocated to the Whip Into Wendy's servo in case an air strike was brought down onto the tyre shop because the enemy thought that it was still the centre of government.
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Post by Joey on May 21, 2016 10:43:02 GMT 10
What do China want here, they would want resources for manufacturing more armaments in such a scenario, so coal, iron, gas mostly. So they'd probably bomb the crap out of the infrastructure to make life hard and take and hold ports as well as mining areas and could do that with relative ease with their equipment and numbers. Oh great they would come straight for my work and I might be enslaved to keep the machines running
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Post by remnantprep on May 21, 2016 10:46:43 GMT 10
Graynomad that wins my vote for BEST post ever on this forum!!! Hahaahah love it!!!
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Post by graynomad on May 21, 2016 15:21:34 GMT 10
But but...my militia have 58 cal weapons and a night-vision scope from Aldi.
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Post by gasman on May 21, 2016 15:21:43 GMT 10
Agree but that's why u have to wage guerilla warfare , blending in with the population, taking soft targets not military ones Has been done ww2 Vietnam Iraq Afghanistan, but the west was on the receiving end Be interesting if we had to be the terrorists/ resistance I hope we'd do a good job!!
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Post by remnantprep on May 21, 2016 15:53:52 GMT 10
Um this was just meant to be for fun! Just a fictional storyline and Graynomad I am really looking forward to the next instalment of Strike Force 1 and their fearless leader Bill the Burnett Butcher!!!
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Post by remnantprep on May 21, 2016 15:57:54 GMT 10
Here's to the brave fighters who fought at the Battle of Bundaberg!!!!
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Post by gasman on May 21, 2016 16:00:52 GMT 10
Waiting for the book and tv miniseries gray! You're in trouble now This forum awaits with baited breath each episode!!!
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Post by jo on May 21, 2016 20:46:33 GMT 10
I think Strike force 1 should have its own post .... loved it
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Post by graynomad on May 26, 2016 20:34:09 GMT 10
Um this was just meant to be for fun! Just a fictional storyline and Graynomad I am really looking forward to the next instalment of Strike Force 1 and their fearless leader Bill the Burnett Butcher!!! Waiting for the book and tv miniseries gray! You're in trouble now This forum awaits with baited breath each episode!!! I suspect that was the extent of my literary abilities, might be best to quit while I'm ahead
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Post by remnantprep on May 26, 2016 20:36:45 GMT 10
Oh come on now Gray no fair!!
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Post by jo on May 26, 2016 21:41:25 GMT 10
Nooo
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