5 Reasons Why Normal People Shy Away From The Prepper World

We must know different lefties!
Most vegan greenies I know live in cities and have no idea about farming/ food production etc but are very happy to dictate to others how they should live despite having no real practical knowledge and experience
They sit in cafes drinking their soy chai decaf vegan halal kosher gay politically correct lattes and try to tell us all what to do

Just listened to a podcast of this bloke - www.collapsesurvivaltraining.com/about.html

Former soldier, bouncer and forest protection protestor, who started his own green political party, but is also a prepper offering survival training (albeit under the auspices of preparing for a zombie apocalypse).

I guess "real green" (rather than urban latte sippers) do have more in common with the average prepper than many would want to admit.

I spend time listening to BOTH left and right, and one thing I've noticed is that in many cases the arguments are the same, for example they both say that the media is biased.

These dichotomies are basically control mechanisms to keep us at each other's throats and not thinking about the real issues.

It is interesting to be able to get back onto the computer after nearly two weeks and read the comments about my previous post.

In one of my earlier posts on this site I made comments relating to self sufficiency and why it is not possible when we live as individual families isolated from well set up communities where every family helps others in that community to grow, harvest and make all of their needs.

In a good year where we are, at best, we are able to supply a maximum of 85% of our total nutritional needs. We do not grow our own grains, produce our own cooking oil or a number of other products that we consume.

It is interesting to hear graynomad say that food is one thing he does not produce. In any SHTF or TEOTWAWKI event food and its production is going to be so important for our survival and anyone who cannot for any reason produce it for their own needs will be at risk of starvation. In times of hardship friends who are able to supply now may have families that take precedence.

We grow vegetables in traditional type garden beds, wicking beds and hydroponically and have plans for an aquaponic system that should be up and running at the beginning of next spring. The is so much knowledge about growing vegetables on the internet there is no excuse for not being able to grow a good portion of what you eat.

frostbite, ($3500 half share for 600m of fence), I take that means the full cost of the 600 metres of fence is going to be $7000.00. That is way over what it should cost as I have costed out a 600 metre fence as follows.

Three rolls (200 metes per roll) of Waratah ringlock at $383.00 per roll =$1179.00,
Galstar posts - 85 at $7.35 each =$630.00,
Concrete strainers by three at $63.80 each = $191.40,
Concrete stays by three at $37.40 each = $112.20.
Stay blocks by three at $16.50 each = $49.50
Netting clips three bags (300 per bag) at $29.95 per bag = $89.85 brings that to a total cost of materials for the fence of $2251.90.

If you wanted to include a roll of 2.5mm plain wire to get your line that would be an additional $212.00 for a 1500 metre length.

I have erected all of the fencing on our property and I prefer box stays using treated pine posts as they are cheaper than using concrete and are easier to work with. The box stays are suitable for boundary type fencing as well as rabbit and kangaroo proof fencing around gardens and orchards that are 1.6 metres in height.

Last week I attended a meeting of locals from our area. Twenty seven people attended and a friend who was also at the meeting told me the following day that between all of us there, there was just under 1000 years of local knowledge. This is the sort of knowledge that carries a lot of weight as many of those people, like us, started in a caravan or hut of some description and from there they built or had their houses built, set up their gardens, workshops etc. and from there their lifestyles. It is from groups of people like this that one can learn from the experiences of others.

I will also add that of the three important services we have into our house, sewerage, water and electricity - electricity is the one that we can do without the most as it neither feeds nor clothes us but is only there for convenience.

A lot of denial, denial, denial, head in the sand is major problem.
It can never happen to me!
Try living with that attitude in rural australia (not in a town).
You would be dead meat.