myrrph
VIP Member
trying to figure out how to change my nick :P
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 1,232
|
Post by myrrph on Aug 4, 2016 19:26:30 GMT 10
Tea. Especially chinese tea.
They actually appreciate in value for the flavor over time. Of course, properly kept.
|
|
|
Post by clearview on Aug 4, 2016 23:49:28 GMT 10
I think about candles, glad wrap, rolls of plastic bags, soap, shampoo, matches and toilet paper,
|
|
krull68
VIP Member
Posts: 535
Likes: 875
|
Post by krull68 on Aug 5, 2016 22:08:30 GMT 10
Matches, lighters and sewing kits.
|
|
|
Post by perthprepper on Aug 5, 2016 22:46:47 GMT 10
Condoms? I expect there will be a whole lot of raping and pillaging when the rule of law vanishes. I can't see many rapists wearing a condom, and the nicer people (the one's who still ask politely before having intercourse) can use a number of different methods.
Agree with the likelihood of rape, but condoms might still be useful in the longer run as survivor communities emerge, and some of the rapists would still want to avoid getting the clap (especially in a world without many pharmaceuticals) Like your idea of bartering skills - I need to get more of those
|
|
|
Post by Peter on Aug 7, 2016 14:42:29 GMT 10
For my own use I have better quality batteries - eneloop, duracell, etc.
BUT for bartering the IKEA batteries are good enough. They don't last nearly as long as Duracell (etc) but for the price I think they're useful.
|
|
VegHead
VIP Member
Posts: 546
Likes: 913
|
Post by VegHead on Aug 7, 2016 17:22:41 GMT 10
Vodka, salt, sugar.
|
|
|
Post by Fractus on Aug 7, 2016 17:36:22 GMT 10
Nah coffee is third. Red wine or Good bourbon is first water is clearly second. Then ground coffee instant coffee and coffee bags are next and a multi purpose enamel mug for all three drinks
|
|
|
Post by ziggysdad on Aug 8, 2016 21:53:39 GMT 10
Picked up another big stack of face masks (adult and child) - have plenty to barter
|
|
bce1
Ausprep Staff
Posts: 819
Likes: 1,581
|
Post by bce1 on Aug 9, 2016 18:13:17 GMT 10
The ability to control conception will be priceless - hence condoms will be a popular barter item. As will the pill and diaphragms.
Very little to do with rape.
BCE
|
|
|
Post by PlanZ on Aug 10, 2016 16:32:37 GMT 10
Condoms? I expect there will be a whole lot of raping and pillaging when the rule of law vanishes. I can't see many rapists wearing a condom, and the nicer people (the one's who still ask politely before having intercourse) can use a number of different methods.
Agree with the likelihood of rape, but condoms might still be useful in the longer run as survivor communities emerge, and some of the rapists would still want to avoid getting the clap (especially in a world without many pharmaceuticals) Like your idea of bartering skills - I need to get more of those I'm not really sure what rape has to do with the value of condoms as a bartering item! Even if there is more of it going on I would still expect there will be plenty of people NOT raping - myself for one, as well as most people who are in a relationship.
|
|
|
Post by perthprepper on Aug 10, 2016 20:16:32 GMT 10
Agree with the likelihood of rape, but condoms might still be useful in the longer run as survivor communities emerge, and some of the rapists would still want to avoid getting the clap (especially in a world without many pharmaceuticals) Like your idea of bartering skills - I need to get more of those I'm not really sure what rape has to do with the value of condoms as a bartering item! Even if there is more of it going on I would still expect there will be plenty of people NOT raping - myself for one, as well as most people who are in a relationship. I hope no one interpreted my post this way, but just for the avoidance of doubt, I'm not going to be raping either.
|
|
remnantprep
Senior Member
People do not exist for the sake of governments!
Posts: 4,399
Likes: 3,968
Email: remnant@ausprep.org
|
Post by remnantprep on Aug 10, 2016 21:28:17 GMT 10
If you are storing up condoms keep them for your own use! There are some things like toilet paper and obviously food items that I just don't think I would use for barter, batteries, red wine lol also etc I mean the things that you will use the most should not be bartered. If you are in a committed relationship the best thing for the female partner to do is to get to know her cycles.
|
|
peter1942
Senior Member
Posts: 146
Likes: 267
|
Post by peter1942 on Aug 10, 2016 22:17:29 GMT 10
On another post several weeks ago I suggested that building materials would be one the best items to have on hand for bartering after a SHTF event and I was cried down.
A true SHTF event means that services such as power, water, sewage etc. would become non existent as well as food sources such as supermarkets in all urban areas, and that means in any area serviced albeit the larger cities to many if not all of the smaller country towns.
The reality is that if a true SHTF event were to occur many people now living in urban areas would be forced to move to places where they were able to grow their own food and have a water supply and many of them would be moving to where there are no suitable buildings to supply even the basic requirements of shelter and means of having even a basic subsistent lifestyle.
This brings me back once again to what I seem to be unable to impress upon many members of sites such as this. If you are not already living where you believe that you have a good chance of survival after a SHTF event you are going to find it very hard going. This means having a lifestyle whereby you have a comfortable and suitable home/accommodation that has the means of heating you and your family in the colder months, contains a wood fired stove for your cooking needs and will also heat the water for washing eating and cook ware and your shower etc. It will also have suitable water catchment and storage for household and garden requirements. It will have an area suitable for firewood collection and suitable soils for the growing of your food. In other words it will contain all that you need for day to day life.
I know that some of you have bolt holes that are some distances from where you presently live but please remember this, if your bolt hole, fully stocked or other wise is, and lets just say it is three hours by motor vehicle from where you will be when the SHTF event occurs, the nearest neighbours to your bolt hole may just live ten minutes down the road therefore they will have a two hour and fifty minute start on you to get to that bolt hole, raid it and be back home by the time you get there or even worse they could take possession of it and deny you access to it.
I am sorry but all this talk about tea bags, alcohol etc. is total BS if a true SHTF event were to occur.
We live in a rural area. We know what it is like to live here. We know that just to supply all of our nutritional needs would be far more important after a SHTF event that worrying about the trivial items that many of you believe is important.
Preserving jars and lids, having a good supply of and saving our own vegetable seeds, having good water catchment and storage's, a supply of firewood and tools for harvesting of same, gardening tools, wheelbarrows, irrigation pipes - fittings - drippers, supplies of dishwashing liquid, toilet paper are just some of the things that are important to us.
I also mentioned in a past post that in the hotter months while our gardens and orchards are in full production that we can use between 20,00 to 25,000 litres of irrigation water per week. A lot of water just for our use but how many of you have any idea just how much water is required to produce the foods that you currently consume? I would say very few of you!
Yes I know that some of you real toughies will be able to live out of just what you can carry in your BOB’s for weeks, months and even years but I also know that once that dream is over you will be fighting to survive like many others who presently live in the mainly urban areas who have no idea about the reality of how it would be to grow even a modicum amount of your nutritional supplies.
Remember, if you have six months of an item in your store/cache you have six months to grow it, make it or learn to go without that particular item.
|
|
remnantprep
Senior Member
People do not exist for the sake of governments!
Posts: 4,399
Likes: 3,968
Email: remnant@ausprep.org
|
Post by remnantprep on Aug 11, 2016 11:24:34 GMT 10
Peter1942, not every Prepper is preparing for a major shtf event but rather events such as job loss or local events! One reason I am preparing is for a wartime situation of rationed goods where things like tea, soaps, toilet paper, alcohol heck even a can of spam become luxuries! Even then having these goods for bartering or even to send as gifts to friends and family is a good idea! Someone may be willing to exchange their homegrown produce for a can of spam! In the Uk during WW2 the meat ration was about 250g to 500g per week per person, so that is a little mince or 2 small lamb chops! So yeah not all of us will be able to survive a big shtf event, we just want to survive the smaller events and are preparing for within the limitations of where we live!
|
|
|
Post by PlanZ on Aug 11, 2016 11:49:46 GMT 10
If I had the budget I would prepare for every possible scenario.
Since I have a limited budget and the usual resource requirements of day-to-day life, I need to start by preparing for the most likely risks first.
And also getting some preps in place that have universal value such as a stockpile of food and water etc. These will help even in the case of a loss of employment.
|
|
myrrph
VIP Member
trying to figure out how to change my nick :P
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 1,232
|
Post by myrrph on Aug 11, 2016 20:38:39 GMT 10
The topic is your best item/thing to store for bartering. discussions of your norm of SHTF is what the _entire_ site is about. Item for bartering is just one little part of it. The skills we need to learn, the gear we need to stash, the food we need to store is all part of a discussion of which what are good bartering items, is part of. It shouldn't be seen as a singular end all discussion. I keep tea bags for bartering. I also store 3 months of food, 1 month of batteries, 2 months of candles, Water purification methods, fishing gear, Heirloom seeds, Recce my surrounding for places to safely harvest vegetables, secure water, fish. Tea bags answers the topic. Its not the _only_ thing we will be doing. But that said. You do have some good points about knowing how is it really like. So drills and practice like 3 days, 7 day camping trips should be arrange to familiarize and keep in practice. Keeping a garden should also be done so when SHTF happens, you do not have to replant a garden.
|
|
grumble
Senior Member
Posts: 457
Likes: 778
|
Post by grumble on Aug 12, 2016 22:16:03 GMT 10
Books on local knowledge like edible plants or books that contain information on anything that relates to needed skills to survive in a world where there is no longer an internet to reference your information from
I have books on stone working how to make mud bricks basic carpentry and so on I spent hours searching through second hand books stores and man some time you find gems full of information
|
|
|
Post by Joey on Aug 12, 2016 22:33:46 GMT 10
I've got a good little collection of hotel soaps and shampoos going as well, all the ones from all the hotels and work camps I've stayed over the last 3yrs. Missus loses her shit every time I bring more home or she catches me loading them in the suitcase lol forever threatening to throw them out
|
|
remnantprep
Senior Member
People do not exist for the sake of governments!
Posts: 4,399
Likes: 3,968
Email: remnant@ausprep.org
|
Post by remnantprep on Aug 12, 2016 22:36:12 GMT 10
Yeah Joey, those work camps can be a great source of stuff!
|
|
|
Post by Joey on Aug 12, 2016 23:04:28 GMT 10
Yeah like bulk gastro lol
|
|