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Post by paranoia on Nov 4, 2016 22:03:10 GMT 10
There's 2 little ones at the top on the right, a bigger one that's on the other side of the arrow rest and one on the front of the bow? I've never understood what any of them do...
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Post by Peter on Nov 4, 2016 22:09:08 GMT 10
Okay, let's assume someone knows nothing about archery other than 1) they're passionate about learning, and 2) they once received a plastic recurve bow with suction-cap arrows in a showbag at the Royal Show as a 5 year old.
Where would such a person start on the journey to being a proficient bow-hunter?
FYI, the hypothetical individual in this question would be me...
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Post by token on Nov 4, 2016 22:10:53 GMT 10
There's 2 little ones at the top on the right, a bigger one that's on the other side of the arrow rest and one on the front of the bow? I've never understood what any of them do... are they on the string? can you put up pics as i think they are dampeners which take the vibration and noise out
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Post by token on Nov 4, 2016 22:12:25 GMT 10
Okay, let's assume someone knows nothing about archery other than 1) they're passionate about learning, and 2) they once received a plastic recurve bow with suction-cap arrows in a showbag at the Royal Show as a 5 year old. Where would such a person start on the journey to being a proficient bow-hunter? FYI, the hypothetical individual in this question would be me... Where would you like to start? I suppose the main thing might be what you desire to do with it? Target archery, hunt, bowfish, tactical prepping for survival?
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Post by Peter on Nov 4, 2016 22:15:10 GMT 10
Survival and hunting (that is, anything edible, including fish), if I may...
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Post by paranoia on Nov 4, 2016 22:18:28 GMT 10
There's 2 little ones at the top on the right, a bigger one that's on the other side of the arrow rest and one on the front of the bow? I've never understood what any of them do... are they on the string? can you put up pics as i think they are dampeners which take the vibration and noise out They're all visible in the second pic. Too much time in the workshop for me bad choice of words, by 'threads' I mean threaded brass inserts on the handle piece, not some sort of extra bow string.
I'm sure one of them is for a sight... theres also the matter of the threaded brass insert in the front of the handle, cant remember seeing a bow with something sticking out the front of it?
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Post by token on Nov 4, 2016 22:23:48 GMT 10
Survival and hunting (that is, anything edible, including fish), if I may... If you look after a compound bow it will last you well. However there are more components to them, but they are faster and built for more of a precision shoot in certain ways. Not that you cannot get such from traditional bows. It all comes down to practice, they each have their benefits. I think you mentioned that you had a bad shoulder??? So have to be careful with this one as a bow will utilize muscles many havent used before. Ive seen bodybuilders who could out lift me in a gym fail to pull my bows before, if that gives you an idea. the aspect of the traditional bow is that you dont get the let off on poundage you can get from a compound bow. You have to draw the full draw weight and hold it if an animal moves, or let down the bow. With the compound youll get 'let off' once the cams turn over where you are holding only say 20% of the draw weight at full draw. This might be easier on your shoulder if i have it right that you have an injury. Having said this, this might also be debated. Compounds can be much more compact and way more powerful. I like to shoot a heavy arrow for bigger animals, therefore i shoot a compound, but again, you can get very high poundages in traditional bows also. Many compound shooters move to traditional later on also as they want more of a primitive shoot. There are a lot of things i could say about both here. Price point is important also. Less components and simple shooting is also important, but with compound many bowhunters will generally shoot out further than with Trad bows also. If you get the chance to test both, do so.
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Post by token on Nov 4, 2016 22:25:37 GMT 10
are they on the string? can you put up pics as i think they are dampeners which take the vibration and noise out They're all visible in the second pic. Too much time in the workshop for me bad choice of words, by 'threads' I mean threaded brass inserts on the handle piece, not some sort of extra bow string.
I'm sure one of them is for a sight... theres also the matter of the threaded brass insert in the front of the handle, cant remember seeing a bow with something sticking out the front of it?
ah ok, yes front one will be where you can put a stabilizer which helps balance the bow. the other on the side might be for an arrow rest attachment like a whisker biscuit or drop away arrow rest.
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Post by paranoia on Nov 4, 2016 22:30:37 GMT 10
So a stabiliser is like a counter weight?
I just googled whisker biscuit and drop away rest... the whisker biscuit looks particularly interesting.
I've definitely been looking for better alternatives to that little plastic thingy that holds the arrows, do you get into the whisker biscuits/drop aways??
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Post by token on Nov 4, 2016 22:37:49 GMT 10
whisker biscuits are good but i use a precision drop away arrow rest on my compounds personally.
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Post by token on Nov 4, 2016 22:40:42 GMT 10
Here's an alternative to a simple trad bow also, and youll see how the wikky biscuit works on it
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Post by token on Nov 7, 2016 11:07:52 GMT 10
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Post by Morgo on Nov 7, 2016 16:40:56 GMT 10
Typical media, thats a weird looking compound bow....
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Post by Morgo on Nov 7, 2016 16:42:40 GMT 10
The old guy with the bow is in a world of trouble. Is he though? Its unlikely the bad guy is going to come forward and press charges against him and really there is no solid evidence against the old guy nor proof that anyone was indeed shot in the ass.
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Post by gasman on Nov 7, 2016 17:51:11 GMT 10
One of our group members got us interested in bows as they can legally be left around the house unsecured unlike firearms I certainly have one behind the bed as a home invasion deterrent but practise is the key " kids bows" ie 20-30 lb draw are very cheap and easy to use and a great Prepper item The only draw back is stubbing your toe on a concealed Broadhead in the middle of the night !!! I have done that and it's not nice lol
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Post by token on Nov 7, 2016 21:36:18 GMT 10
Self defence isnt self defence if the other party is trying to escape. The old guy with the bow is in a world of trouble. Yes agreed, he will be going to jail if this media story is indeed correct, but who knows with the media, it could be bulldust. Fact is, at least in this country, you cant shoot someone running away, and understandably so.....but then again, if they were shooting at me and my family and then realized 'far out' at the barrage coming back and ran off, id be wanting to tag them so they couldn't regroup and come back.....all in a WROL society of course lol
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Post by token on Nov 7, 2016 21:40:07 GMT 10
One of our group members got us interested in bows as they can legally be left around the house unsecured unlike firearms I certainly have one behind the bed as a home invasion deterrent but practise is the key " kids bows" ie 20-30 lb draw are very cheap and easy to use and a great Prepper item The only draw back is stubbing your toe on a concealed Broadhead in the middle of the night !!! I have done that and it's not nice lol Very true, and ive got to say, even with a kids bow, the right weight arrow and head, even at short range.....far out gives me tingles thinking about it given the amount of animals ive arrowed with a razor sharp broadhead...in a way id rather get shot! Make sure your broadheads are out of reach folks, i have heard of many bowhunter accidents and bleeding out fast isnt pretty, as thats what a broadhead is designed to do.
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Post by token on Nov 7, 2016 21:46:48 GMT 10
Morgo, if he made a statement to police that's all they need to get a conviction. I know this from personal experience, when I was young, far too aggressive and not as smart as I thought I was. Correct! and if ive said it once ive said it a thousand times to folk in trouble 'you never talk to police'. You get a darn good mouthpiece! (lawyer). They will threaten you and say all sorts of stuff to you that are lies, even throw you the phone book to get a lawyer on the spot, never talk! They can only hold you so long, then go get a good lawyer when your out. First thing your lawyer does if your in trouble is asks if you made a statement, then orders a copy of it to see how deep you dug yourself, everythign can be interpreted a certain way. Learn to shut up, and even police in the know will tell you this. By law you have a right to not speak and to get representation. I am speaking via experience! fail to do it, and learn the hard way.
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Post by Morgo on Nov 8, 2016 15:43:26 GMT 10
Morgo, if he made a statement to police that's all they need to get a conviction. I know this from personal experience, when I was young, far too aggressive and not as smart as I thought I was. Ah yes, well if he admitted guilt in a statement to the police already then hes a little less well off.
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Post by Beno on Nov 8, 2016 16:57:58 GMT 10
www.archeryshop.com.au/p/8956757/pse-stinger-x-compound-bow-kit.htmlim thinking of getting into a bit of bowhunting and some target shooting with hunting bows. i like the look of this one bit to be honest i don't have a clue about bows. quiet kills strikes me as being and advantage in a SHTF senario. one thing concerns me is i do 't want to loose a $15 arrow and $20dollar broadhead with a through and through or have it shatter to pieces on a rock. any idea in how long they last after repeated shooting?
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