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Post by curious on Nov 29, 2016 12:00:32 GMT 10
Has anyone had trouble with local councils when building shelters and things like that? How do you overcome this?
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paranoia
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Post by paranoia on Nov 29, 2016 12:12:36 GMT 10
You should have no trouble building a fire shelter in bush fire prone areas. You should be able to build a cellar most other places.
What are we trying to shelter against? This and what area you live in will be critical here...
Be descrete is my other knee jerk rection.
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Post by Fractus on Nov 29, 2016 15:55:27 GMT 10
We have to jump through hoops toget a shipping container. And I live on 13 acres in a rural area. Waste of our oxygen giving it to elected officials and their ilk.
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Post by shinester on Nov 29, 2016 16:10:01 GMT 10
Red tape = more money for bad people to bribe good people to vote then in again.
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Post by WolfDen on Dec 1, 2016 8:59:00 GMT 10
Listened to a podcast recently about a guy who put up a small outbuilding on his rural property. Asked "What he would do differently if he did it again?" He responded "I wouldn't ask for permission again from local/state governtment, would do anything to avoid all the red tape"
"Better to ask for forgiveness then permission"
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Post by krull68 on Dec 1, 2016 10:27:08 GMT 10
Has anyone had trouble with local councils when building shelters and things like that? How do you overcome this? As I have friends who are builders, also a friend from Church who is a councilor, and friends in local council planning department, I couldn't tell you. Perhaps making contact and having a chat with the local guy/gal who is in charge of planning would help? Councils will give you a huge leeway, if you talk to them, and work in with them. They don't need to know it is the teotwawki zombie apocalypse bunker. |
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Post by graynomad on Dec 1, 2016 11:52:13 GMT 10
Listened to a podcast recently about a guy who put up a small outbuilding on his rural property. Asked "What he would do differently if he did it again?" He responded "I wouldn't ask for permission again from local/state governtment, would do anything to avoid all the red tape" "Better to ask for forgiveness then permission" I have a mate on acreage who went into the council to ask about building something. The guy said "Your first mistake was coming in here to ask"  We just went and did it, b ut that could bite us in the arse one day. |
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Post by tomatoes on Dec 1, 2016 16:25:28 GMT 10
A guy over our back fence spent perhaps a year, in what was prob all his spare time, building something. I can't remember what but it was more like a wall than a house. Then council found out and made him take it all down. I know no details really so can't talk to exactly what he was building, but I'm sure he wasn't happy!
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2016 22:06:08 GMT 10
Different councils have different interpretations of various building laws. In one council here, they won't even speak to you until you've told them the property address so they can log the call with notes. In other words, even asking the question will put a red flag up against you.
If you look at your council website you'll often see a link to "online mapping" or similar: this shows property details (such as zoning, area, etc) and also aerial photography. Many councils monitor the aerial photos for any changes, and they investigate if unapproved changes are found. In my last house I had a knock on the door from a council inspector telling me I had an un-approved shade sail in my yard. It was actually a tarp over the kids' sandpit, placed to stop the neighbour's cat from crapping in the sand.
The next time I hear someone say we still live in a free country...
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Post by father on Sept 30, 2019 11:50:36 GMT 10
My sister put up a very large tin shed on her & her hubbies 405 acres. A basic permit required. Then they proceeded to deck it out like a normal house, well a very luxurious 8 bedroom house. All quite legal, its just a BIG garden shed
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Post by Peter on Oct 1, 2019 22:24:00 GMT 10
My sister put up a very large tin shed on her & her hubbies 405 acres. A basic permit required. Then they proceeded to deck it out like a normal house, well a very luxurious 8 bedroom house. All quite legal, its just a BIG garden shed Ah, in WA there are some further requirements - my brother & sister in law did that same thing, but council knocked on their door saying that as indoor lights were visible at night they would investigate. It was impossible to deny that they were living in it (over here councils can enter a property without a warrant), so it took the calling of a favour with someone in council to get them out of trouble. Surely councils have better things to do with their time, money, effort, etc... |
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