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Post by shinester on Dec 25, 2016 6:28:32 GMT 10
World War I starvation. Some hints to the conditions and the reasons that lead to those conditions.
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Post by tyburn on Dec 26, 2016 15:08:07 GMT 10
Makes me wonder about the wisdom of relying on so much imported food, fuel etc. All it takes is conflict in Asia and closure of shipping channels, and Australia may need to be completely self-reliant.
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Post by spatial on Dec 26, 2016 16:28:36 GMT 10
Makes me wonder about the wisdom of relying on so much imported food, fuel etc. All it takes is conflict in Asia and closure of shipping channels, and Australia may need to be completely self-reliant. Australia is a large net exporter of food. Countries like the Philippians with 90 million citizens would starve and likely invade Australia for food. What will happen is most of our fuel comes from Singapore, so trucking and transportation systems will come to a halt if war breaks out in the South China seas. Just this last week China stole a US underwater research drone in a brazen action in international waters. Trumps has more than once stated his is putting a 10% import charge on all goods from China. Chinese bond market and liquidity is failing so they are already under big financial stress.. Striking Admission By China: "Rising Social Tensions Pose Enormous Challenges To Beijing's Stability"www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-25/striking-admission-china-rising-social-tensions-pose-enormous-challenges-beijings-stBack on topic: During the WW2 Britons were told to keep rabbits as easy protein source. So that is my strategy for the coming economic SHTF event. All one needs is grass and a few veg cuttings to keep rabbits healthy. www.cooksinfo.com/british-wartime-food |
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Post by spatial on Dec 26, 2016 21:10:30 GMT 10
Many Australians will find it hard to grow food when they only have a metre of land between their fence and the walls of their house. Yeah modern properties are getting smaller and houses bigger with no yard. There is also more high rises where people have no soil... |
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Post by Joey on Dec 26, 2016 22:16:12 GMT 10
Back in brissy this week, I've found that my old suburbs have had moat of the houses knocked down and multi story unit blocks pop up. Talking to mum tonight, she said brissy council is approving all development applications for unit blocks around transport hubs.
Soon enough you will have to live on average just to be able to have a back yard to even grow grass
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Post by shinester on Dec 27, 2016 4:52:29 GMT 10
Many Australians will find it hard to grow food when they only have a metre of land between their fence and the walls of their house. There's always the roof, annoying to do so though I would suspect also somewhat secure from theft, a good chance of flying off in a storm and a major advertisement. During the 'special times' in cuba, people started growing food anywhere and everywhere. Fuel - We currently produce about 1/3 of our fuel needs, which I would imagine is enough for the essentials. It would take some time to get production up to speed for more, as well as other initiatives such as using our urban rail system for goods transport at night, conversion of coal to fuel. We only have a short reserve though. Invasion the problem with that idea is that you also have to secure the means of production & distribution and occupied territory is never as productive, though I guess desperation mitigates that concern. The Philippines would be very hard pressed to take Australia even without our allies and nearby help [NZ]. Sure they have the troop numbers Australia Active Frontline Personnel: 60,000 Active Reserve Personnel: 44,240 Phillipines Active Frontline Personnel: 220,000 Active Reserve Personnel: 430,000 .. whilst that's disturbing in comparison, that's their only strength Australia Tanks: 59 Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFVs): 2,040 Self-Propelled Guns (SPGs): 0 Towed-Artillery: 75 Multiple-Launch Rocket Systems (MLRSs): 0 Phillipines Tanks: 45 Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFVs): 778 Self-Propelled Guns (SPGs): 0 Towed-Artillery: 270 Multiple-Launch Rocket Systems (MLRSs): 0 Remember they 'have' to leave some at home and we can use all of ours. I would imagine that a lot of people would volunteer also in Australia. Lastly we'd have air supremacy turning their formations and convoys into mush, assuming they get close enough to land with our air cover. AustraliaTotal Aircraft: 417 Fighters/Interceptors: 78 Fixed-Wing Attack Aircraft: 78 Transport Aircraft: 161 Trainer Aircraft: 130 Helicopters: 166 Attack Helicopters: 22 Phillipines Total Aircraft: 135 Fighters/Interceptors: 0 Fixed-Wing Attack Aircraft: 8 Transport Aircraft: 74 Trainer Aircraft: 22 Helicopters: 91 Attack Helicopters: 0 Our navy and airforce would make resupply poor at best and an army is only as good as it's resupply. Indonesia has 1/4 of a billion people and about 870,000 potential personal and equals in other areas. They are of more concern to my mind. |
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Post by Peter on Dec 27, 2016 10:52:54 GMT 10
You can cross off our tiger attack helicopters. They are unfit for service in a hostile environment or over water. One of the biggest stuffups our military procurement system has ever made. Excuse my ignorance, but how the hell is a helicopter unfit for service over water? |
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Post by shinester on Dec 27, 2016 11:48:43 GMT 10
News to me about them [just looked it up]. Not sure why we wouldn't have gone tried and tested formats like Apache gunships assuming the yanks would want to sell them to us even if they're downgraded variants. They cost about 60 million a piece, about the same price tag we've already spent on useless scrap metal. It's almost like politicians not the people who have to use them make decisions and get some err... benefits.
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Post by tyburn on Dec 27, 2016 12:01:13 GMT 10
I don't think the Philippines would ever be invading anyone else, unless it was some of the islands bordering Indonesia -- one of my Indo colleagues' parents live on an island close to the Philippino border, and reckons they're a bunch of crazy right-wing gun nuts who are always threatening raids over the border.
Indonesia threatening Australia is another story altogether. I've heard that the establishment / ruling elite hasn't got over the loss of face that Australia handed them with the ADF's intervention in East Timor, and would be more than happy to pay it back.
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Post by tomatoes on Dec 27, 2016 13:15:16 GMT 10
I dont have the full report on the tiger, but I do know that no adf personnel are permitted on a helicopter over water until they have passed a course where they are strapped into an airframe, blindfolded,inverted and then dropped into a deep pool. Perhaps the tiger airframe is too difficult to escape from under water. I thought that was standard safety training for anyone who has to travel in a helicopter going over open water. |
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Post by spatial on Dec 27, 2016 14:53:11 GMT 10
I don't think the Philippines would ever be invading anyone else, unless it was some of the islands bordering Indonesia -- one of my Indo colleagues' parents live on an island close to the Philippino border, and reckons they're a bunch of crazy right-wing gun nuts who are always threatening raids over the border. Indonesia threatening Australia is another story altogether. I've heard that the establishment / ruling elite hasn't got over the loss of face that Australia handed them with the ADF's intervention in East Timor, and would be more than happy to pay it back. People are getting a bit excited about my Philippine comment. It is more of refugee type invasion due to starvation (food security, due to import reliance). Having said that Within the last 2 weeks the Philippine president has told both the US Obama and the UN to go to hell as they are "son of @#$%es" etc.. He has also now sided with China and Russia where the Philippines used to do freedom of access patrols in the south China seas with the US. He has cancelled weapon purchases from the US and said he is going to use Russia and China to supply his country needs. A part of the mix one also has to add Indonesia which is now being overrun by Muslims into the mix.. They have substantial military force, why Australia still gives these countries aid where they just use it to strengthen their military is beyond me. A "Red Dawn" situation is Australia is not our of the realm. www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=indonesia&country2=australia&Submit=Compare+Countries |
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Post by tomatoes on Dec 27, 2016 20:33:38 GMT 10
When my husband had to regularly fly in a helicopter to get to work he had to do the training - it was called HUWET training - he said it's only if you have to fly over open water (which Sydney Harbour isn't). It was implemented - perhaps just for commercial flights where the company you work for has a duty of care - because of deaths from helicopter crashes in the North Sea Oil and Gas fields.
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Post by perthprepper on Dec 27, 2016 21:43:53 GMT 10
Fuel - We currently produce about 1/3 of our fuel needs, which I would imagine is enough for the essentials. It would take some time to get production up to speed for more, as well as other initiatives such as using our urban rail system for goods transport at night, conversion of coal to fuel. We only have a short reserve though. LNG could be redirected to local use if the cargoes could no longer make it to Asia - though would need some regasification plants to be built in a hurry. Even some vehicles (big trucks) can run on LNG now. But yeah it wouldn't help the ordinary car fleet |
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Post by Peter on Dec 27, 2016 22:28:27 GMT 10
I dont have the full report on the tiger, but I do know that no adf personnel are permitted on a helicopter over water until they have passed a course where they are strapped into an airframe, blindfolded,inverted and then dropped into a deep pool. Perhaps the tiger airframe is too difficult to escape from under water. Ah - that makes sense. I initially got the impression that they didn't fly over water - much like the hoverboards in Back To The Future. |
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Post by tyburn on Dec 29, 2016 15:51:20 GMT 10
Have a look at the other procurement disasters the ADF have had over the past few decades. Just imagine what we'll be saying when the new subs start being built in fifteen years time, no doubt with much higher costs than the projected $50 billion.
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Post by shinester on Dec 30, 2016 10:21:31 GMT 10
An attack helio is a good idea for Aus, large areas at great speed. Heck buy a bunch of Ruskie Hinds for all I care, doubles as troop transport. The more I look around the more questions I have as to where the money is going, who's getting bribed, though the other conclusion is more obvious... stupidity.
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Post by thereth on Dec 30, 2016 19:54:21 GMT 10
That youtube channel has been a great watch, i am 135 videos into their playlist of 331 and it has been incredibly educational.
While ww1 and ww2 have always been of interest to me this channel, by doing a week to week format has reaĺly opened my eyes to some of the incredibly incompetant decisions made by senior command.
Those poor bastards on both sides just got thrown into a meat grinder for no other reason than some old blokes couldnt accept that times have changed.
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Post by spatial on Jan 4, 2017 15:20:16 GMT 10
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Post by shinester on Jan 4, 2017 19:50:17 GMT 10
"Why are we still giving them $300m in aid.." - because we're appeasing. Time to be steadfast.
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Post by spatial on Jan 5, 2017 8:14:14 GMT 10
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