tomatoes
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Post by tomatoes on Feb 13, 2017 6:59:17 GMT 10
I thought it might be interesting to talk about what people do in terms of preps when staying away from home (and your preps) for a while? What if you'll be away for a month or two? Do you stash a little extra food and water? Do you basically just have your GHBs?
I'm not really talking about a short holiday such as a weekend or perhaps even a week - a little longer, but not long enough to move all your stuff and get a removalists/truck!
The bushfires in NSW at the moment prompted me to wonder - If I was temporarily in an area told not to evacuate but still with some risk, eg "severe", but not "catastrophic" or "extreme", would it be a good idea to get some extra supplies of some sort?
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Post by mozzie101 on Feb 13, 2017 8:08:01 GMT 10
Before we moved to our country lifestyle, We had pretty much a split resource for anything we deemed a potential situation we may need to prepare for. One lot at our house in Cairns and a similar one in our place 4 hours south. The Cairns one was geared towards cyclones. As that is the most likely event we would need to think about leaving if it came to it. Before or after the fact would be determined by the size of the cyclone.
When we transitted to and from our place down south we would have a car grab bags and the necessary spares to fix car's. We always travelled in convoy very early in the morning. We did this mainly because it is cooler and there is a lot less traffic on the roads. It was usually just trucks moving freight. UHF's fitted to both vehicles. Hand helds on the grab bags etc, etc.
The stores at the property where similar to the Cairns place, but more geared towards fires as that is the most common threat for us that does happen yearly.
We used to do runs down to the property every 5-6 weeks and a 6 week stay over once a year.
We had vegetable gardens and fruit tree's at both locations as well as large quantities of water, just to name a few.
With what we had at our second location we could at any time leave from Cairns with just the cloths on our backs and be able to live quite comfortably at the southern property.
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Post by shinester on Feb 13, 2017 9:29:22 GMT 10
3 hrs without shelter [in hostile environments] 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. That is I like to think in terms of priorities, though you might be in the tropics where shelter isn't nearly as immediately important. A raincoat can go a long way, a tarp, further improvement. -------------------------
Wherever I go, I have some very basic EDC, a multitool, fire striker, water tablets [in my wallet]. In my car, I have 10 days of food and 22L of water, as well as the full bug out bag and I can break that down into a smaller one if need be, folding bike, fuel etc.
For the most part that ought to be more than adequate for most situations I'll encounter, at least enough to get me home.
Specifically for travel, I don't travel much, I even work at home, though I guess it would depend where and how. If I'm traveling overseas then there's some limitations on what you can carry with you, though water purification tabs could get you a fair way and might even be a really good idea in a normal sense with some countries and their terrible water. Perhaps combined with multivitamins, the hard type last the longest [as opposed to the gel/gelatin ones] as you can live on body fat for quite a while provided you have potassium and some vitamins [both in the tablets] will stave off nutritional disease for as long as you have body fat and muscle tissue. That is most people will live well past 3 weeks without food with such supplements. In the 60s someone lived for a whole year without food, living on body fat and supplements. If you had skills in local vegetation that's edible, you'd go longer and they would provide those essential micro nutrients and a little bit [not enough] of KJs. So water is the main issue for almost any situation I can imagine. A water filter would be another option, the Sawyer filters are fantastic, small and last a very long time. Not as small as tablets, though it's something you could put in a coat pocket or throw in a day pack no problem.
You might also have some emergency shelter supplies such as your space blankets etc. Depends of course on how and where you're traveling. Having appropriate footware and coverings for all weathers available, very useful. Things like maps might also be essential, again depending on where and your familiarity.
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Post by Ammo9 on Feb 13, 2017 11:53:30 GMT 10
When I go on holidays, particularly if I'm flying, I try not to think about prepping. There's only so much you can take with you and I've got to unwind at some stage.
I'll always have a knife, leatherman, bic, torch, hanky, water and cash. But beyond that, if something happens I'll have to improvise a bit.
It's annoying though because I can have a tiny backpack and have to check it in because of the blades.
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Post by remnantprep on Feb 13, 2017 12:20:53 GMT 10
Any time we go away even for a short time if in car I take the bug out bag (or at least a smaller version of one). When flying overseas you need to adapt what you can take on board with you. You can take a first aid kit with rounded scissors less than 4 inches (lots of uses for things in kit), I would pop in a sewing kit and small toiletry kit you can also take on board a box of matches or one lighter but these must be carried on your person but not in checked baggage or carry on (keep them in your pocket). You can also buy a small bottle of spirits after you check in to carry on board. You could also carry a bandana etc!
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Post by myrrph on Feb 13, 2017 14:48:43 GMT 10
I have not gone for month long holidays. The last time I was in Bali for a week, I had a PSK with folding knives, Flashlights, Firekit (tinder, fresnel lens, lighter, matches, firesteel), cover (disposable table cloth, mylar blanket), cordage, sugar, salt, coffee filters to filter water, water purifying tabs for up to 10l.
Additionally, I carried with me, a lightweight windbreaker, oko stage 3 filter 1L water bottle and paracord.
Food is in the form of Mars/Snickers which we carry with us.
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Post by perthprepper on Feb 14, 2017 19:57:44 GMT 10
Good topic. For driving trips we usually have plenty of everything packed in the car. If we're flying interstate it's just cash and first aid for me. I kind of have to echo Ammo9 and not think about it and just take the risk. Late next year we're going overseas to catch up with friends and family living in various countries. If there's any shtf event while in Brazil then the odds are we're f*cked... But sometimes you've gotta have some fun and hope for the best
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Post by SA Hunter on Feb 14, 2017 21:12:48 GMT 10
Our trips away are either just in the Prado or towing the caravan.
Prado - 1 lge tub cooking utensils, cleaning gear, rice, water, herbs, spices, gas cooker & cartridges, 10l water, snacks, tinned food for 3-4 days.
Caravan - 90l water tank, lots of tinned food, rice, pasta, cooker (gas), solar panels to keep battery charged.
Going overseas for 4 weeks, we were very limited - we always had spare water, instant noodles, cash, knives, camping items, good walking shoes, and a map to the nearest Australian embassy or consulate.
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Post by tyburn on Feb 16, 2017 20:34:43 GMT 10
I'll always have a knife, leatherman, bic, torch, hanky, water and cash. But beyond that, if something happens I'll have to improvise a bit. It's annoying though because I can have a tiny backpack and have to check it in because of the blades. Yep, pain in the arse carrying prep gear and traveling. Have had a couple of Swiss knives confiscated at train and subway stations, while have had friends and family lose all manner of innocuous items when going through customs at the airport (one of my elderly rellies was pretty pissed off after having her alarm clock confiscated due to it having both a glow in the dark finish (ie. ever so slightly radioactive) + the fact it was a mechanical clock and could have been used for some nefarious deed).
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