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Bivvy
May 19, 2017 15:28:04 GMT 10
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Post by WolfDen on May 19, 2017 15:28:04 GMT 10
Looking to getting a Bivvy bag as a change to my sleeping arrangements with my BOB as well as for my usual camping/hiking trips. Was wondering if anyone else used Bivvy's. What advice you would have for purchasing one and whether one would be a good idea for a BOB/GHB.
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Post by graynomad on May 19, 2017 20:51:25 GMT 10
I have a Goretex bivvy bag, can't remember the brand but I would have got it from Paddy Pallins. I really only use it inside my tent to enclose my 150-gram sleeping bag on cold nights, but have on occasion used it in the open and also with my "half tent". Something I designed years ago to provide shelter for just my top half.
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Bivvy
May 21, 2017 19:20:27 GMT 10
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Post by thereth on May 21, 2017 19:20:27 GMT 10
I have a Goretex bivvy bag, can't remember the brand but I would have got it from Paddy Pallins. I really only use it inside my tent to enclose my 150-gram sleeping bag on cold nights, but have on occasion used it in the open and also with my "half tent". Something I designed years ago to provide shelter for just my top half. I can't look at this without picturing a bloody big tongue
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Post by graynomad on May 21, 2017 19:41:30 GMT 10
Say "Ahhhh"
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Post by SA Hunter on May 21, 2017 20:00:56 GMT 10
I bought a bivvy bag from PLATATAC - it's camo of course. I love it. The first time I used it was a starry night in June, -3c - jumped in fully clothed into my sleeping bag inside the bivvy bag - within a short time I was down to a t shirt, and no socks. It was very very snug in there - traps all your body heat and makes for a nice sleep. Just make sure the one you have has a mozzie screen at the head also - if it gets really warm at night, at least you have a bit of fresh air to cool you down.
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Post by token on May 21, 2017 20:37:20 GMT 10
Off topic, ive got a clark nx-250, new model is the 270 i believe. I have a superfly sil nylon rain fly which turns into a full tent to cover it, and a custom made goose down underquilt from the US underground underquilts. Had it for years, and awesome sleep on hunts in the freezing cold, no more ground mats for me. Light as gear, and a good nights sleep with an asymmetrical lay also, plus you can sleep on your side in them as well. No sore shoulders in the morning. You can hang high in a tree, but be careful, to get right above ground and any foot travel or wild dog issues that may be around. www.junglehammock.com/product/camo-nx-270-camping-hammock/
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Bivvy
May 22, 2017 7:42:31 GMT 10
Post by graynomad on May 22, 2017 7:42:31 GMT 10
... it's camo of course... One of the reasons I need to re-jig my kit as it's all for bushwalking where you don't care about being seen, my rain jacket is somewhat bright as well
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Bivvy
May 22, 2017 7:47:55 GMT 10
Post by graynomad on May 22, 2017 7:47:55 GMT 10
Off topic, ive got a clark nx-250, new model is the 270 i believe. I have a superfly sil nylon rain fly which turns into a full tent to cover it, and a custom made goose down underquilt from the US underground underquilts. Had it for years, and awesome sleep on hunts in the freezing cold, no more ground mats for me. Light as gear, and a good nights sleep with an asymmetrical lay also, plus you can sleep on your side in them as well. No sore shoulders in the morning. You can hang high in a tree, but be careful, to get right above ground and any foot travel or wild dog issues that may be around. www.junglehammock.com/product/camo-nx-270-camping-hammock/I've been thinking of using a hammock, historically it hasn't been suitable for the terrain I walk in (often above the tree line) but around here it would be fine. 1.3kgs + fly is a little heavy though I think, but OTOH if I include the bivvy and mat and ground sheet and internal mozzie net weight to that poncho I posted to above I'd be looking at the same I think.
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Post by graynomad on May 22, 2017 7:51:11 GMT 10
... You can hang high in a tree, but be careful, to get right above ground and any foot travel or wild dog issues that may be around. This (wild dogs) is becoming an issue. Lying on the ground in a bivvy might make you look too much like a sausage roll to a pack of dogs and you can't get out in a hurry. But your arms are free and so you can reach a gun. Inside a tent is better, heck I've slept in one with lions walking around. But how does a hammock rate in this regard I wonder.
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Post by feralemma on May 22, 2017 9:47:15 GMT 10
... You can hang high in a tree, but be careful, to get right above ground and any foot travel or wild dog issues that may be around. This (wild dogs) is becoming an issue. Lying on the ground in a bivvy might make you look too much like a sausage roll to a pack of dogs and you can't get out in a hurry. But your arms are free and so you can reach a gun. Inside a tent is better, heck I've slept in one with lions walking around. But how does a hammock rate in this regard I wonder. If the dogs are smart you might wind up wrapped up in your hammock like a fly in a spider web π dogs have moved even closer in the last few year, they are a huge presence only 70km from us now and we get the occasional one here.
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Post by token on May 22, 2017 19:23:59 GMT 10
Dogs are a very big issue, and were a number of years ago in many areas i used to camp and hunt.
When i say, 'hang high' i mean, well above the area where dogs could get to you.
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May 22, 2017 19:41:23 GMT 10
Post by WolfDen on May 22, 2017 19:41:23 GMT 10
I have had used a hammock camping out with a tarp suspended above before. Didn't like it as much as I'm probably too big to sleep comfortably in one.
Never thought before about wild dog packs when setting up camp. Should keep that in the back of my mind from now on.
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Post by graynomad on May 23, 2017 13:43:20 GMT 10
Dogs are a very big issue, and were a number of years ago in many areas i used to camp and hunt. When i say, 'hang high' i mean, well above the area where dogs could get to you. Ummm, I'm thinking not.
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Post by token on May 23, 2017 19:06:53 GMT 10
I have had used a hammock camping out with a tarp suspended above before. Didn't like it as much as I'm probably too big to sleep comfortably in one. I have a friend who is 6ft7" and a very thick man at that. He loved my hammock and no issues. Hammocks have come a long way and it very much depends on what type of hammock you have. A lot of military persons purchase them when on tours and hang between tanks and equipment, they also double as an on the ground unit. Im 6"2 and just come down from 110kg, and i sleep predominately on my side, i have trouble in a bed let alone a ground mat as my shoulders are broad and crush in to my head causing me to wake up in pain and stiff quite often, not so with the hammock, i also get a flat lay in mine, not a banana lay as you put your feet (in a well made hammock) into one corner and your front in the other side. They double as a chair also, and you can take off and put on your shoes with ease whereas with a tent you can get stuck on your butt, and then dragging muddy boots into your tent unless you have a front that covers them externally to your tent. If you get snowed or rained in, you can also cook with a view outside of being confined to a tent. Believe me, being stuck in a small light weight tent in strong rain for days sucks! In a hammock, with a rain fly, at least you can move around and any water that passes underneath sees you above it. I was long term light weight tent and ground mat camper, never again unless it was badly needed. The other reason why i am comfortable hanging higher is because i have spent a lot of time in a tree stand hunting. In the right spot you can move from your hammock to your stand, all the while harnessed safely. The feeling of being in the trees above the ground for hunting and or vantage point for any human traffic possibly passing through is awesome! But again, thats just me. It does however make a good point for WROL scenario, learn to look up, not just forward, you never know who might be up there.
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May 24, 2017 15:22:44 GMT 10
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Post by feralemma on May 24, 2017 15:22:44 GMT 10
Our trees don't get big enough here to hang hammocks far enough off the ground to be out of harms way π¬
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May 25, 2017 15:55:04 GMT 10
Post by token on May 25, 2017 15:55:04 GMT 10
Our trees don't get big enough here to hang hammocks far enough off the ground to be out of harms way π¬ Where do u live that the trees dont grow big enough?
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May 25, 2017 20:58:27 GMT 10
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Post by feralemma on May 25, 2017 20:58:27 GMT 10
Sandplain country! Farmland that has mostly been cleared, remaining bush is scrubby and has smallish trees like banksia etc that are no good for hanging things from, especially at any great height π
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Post by token on May 26, 2017 18:24:51 GMT 10
Sandplain country! Farmland that has mostly been cleared, remaining bush is scrubby and has smallish trees like banksia etc that are no good for hanging things from, especially at any great height π Righto, i thought as much. You can still hang off different stuff like your car or trailer, and set up different set ups to hang without trees as well. Here's one option. Yer certainly no good trying to get up high when there's nothing to climb up high on though lol
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Post by SA Hunter on May 26, 2017 23:13:47 GMT 10
... You can hang high in a tree, but be careful, to get right above ground and any foot travel or wild dog issues that may be around. This (wild dogs) is becoming an issue. Lying on the ground in a bivvy might make you look too much like a sausage roll to a pack of dogs and you can't get out in a hurry. But your arms are free and so you can reach a gun. Inside a tent is better, heck I've slept in one with lions walking around. But how does a hammock rate in this regard I wonder. I remember on a field exercise, after the hoochies were set up, I gave the girls some talcum powder, and told them to sprinkle it outside around their set ups. They asked "Why", and I said "So you can see the dingo footprints in the morning" For some reason, none of them slept all night!!!!
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May 27, 2017 8:29:28 GMT 10
Post by token on May 27, 2017 8:29:28 GMT 10
This (wild dogs) is becoming an issue. Lying on the ground in a bivvy might make you look too much like a sausage roll to a pack of dogs and you can't get out in a hurry. But your arms are free and so you can reach a gun. Inside a tent is better, heck I've slept in one with lions walking around. But how does a hammock rate in this regard I wonder. I remember on a field exercise, after the hoochies were set up, I gave the girls some talcum powder, and told them to sprinkle it outside around their set ups. They asked "Why", and I said "So you can see the dingo footprints in the morning" For some reason, none of them slept all night!!!! haha, nasty! but, one way to keep them quiet throughout the next day, sleep deprivation lol
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