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Post by Joey on Jun 4, 2017 13:19:29 GMT 10
OK so 'the disaster" has happened and its hitting the fan everywhere. You go on a foraging expedition to your local mega-shop.... what NON food items will YOU see that the sheeple or zombies will overlook that will help you in your survival? What do YOU see that they dont see?
Crayons-- making candles
Cotton rope - making wicks
Any type of White sheets - filtering and bandages
Camo paint or all kinds of green spray paints
zip ties
caulking
Potting Soil
Garden hose and repair kits
Fruit trees for planting ( depending on the season )
This is a worse case scenario and all stores have been abandoned and chaos reigns. I know some will say they wont "steal" anything.... but I'm talking about when things are NOT gonna recover anytime soon and no employees will be returning to open the store in the near OR distant future.
Just a mental exercise if you will.
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Post by WolfDen on Jun 4, 2017 15:02:34 GMT 10
Pet food. Wouldn't think sheeple would care about it at the time and as I'm covered would be good to get extra food for the dogs.
Like Frost said, lot of toiletries would be left initially and would be good for traiding/bartering.
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Post by spatial on Jun 4, 2017 17:38:00 GMT 10
There are two many things - I go shopping once or twice a month when I am at home back from work and just walk around while the wife shops and I look for things for end of world use, never leave a shop without buying a few doomsday supplies.
Meds, and pharmaceuticals, pain relief,
vitamins
washing soaps, body soap
Plastic bags, dustbin bags, food bags
tin foil
disposable plates
Canning jars
Batteries
hardware items, and fishing stuff most large supermarkets sell the stuff
Fire starters, and matches,
charcoal, butane if they have it
Ice as power might go down and ice can give you an extra week of cooling
plastic table covers
If there is a gardening section as you allude to:
Pest control, rats, veg garden pest for crickets, butterflies, mosquito repellents, fly nets and traps etc
Fertilisers
rabbit and chicken cages
rat and mouse traps
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Post by Peter on Jun 4, 2017 19:35:51 GMT 10
I'd grab a couple of shopping trolleys - not only to get stuff home, but also to use as animal traps (upside down, with a stick holding the hinged back bit up so that Mr Bunny would knock/pull it down. In theory...).
I'd also look at bird seed (for cooking & eating, and for attracting birds to catch & eat), any rotting fruit & veg that others don't take (for the compost pile), gaffa tape, I'd raid the BBQ section, as many FAK supplies as possible, plus as many cleaning chemicals as I could get (from bleach through to spray & wipe).
If it truly was the zombie apocalypse, I'd look at arming myself, my family, and others of similar mindset to the teeth and commandeering a supermarket ASAP. Sound crazy? As long as it's defensible it may not be a dumb idea. There's plenty of dried & canned food, bottled water, and plants to grow into food (plus some seeds from the fresh produce section). There's often fertilisers, potting mix, and a lot of fresh produce that can't be consumed before it goes bad (which would be perfect for composting). The biggest problems would be others trying to take it over, and the lack of lighting and ventilation through much of the building.
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Post by Morgo on Jun 4, 2017 21:30:44 GMT 10
Honestly I think the stores are the last places I'd want to be for a very long time after a RWOL disaster.
Everyone who is unprepared is going to go there and sooner than later gangs/mobs/bandits etc will be installed there making them some of the most unsafe places in the country.
I think the potential risk vs scavenging some non food items is just not worth it.
That said I'd be after maintenance items/replacement parts. Oils, cleaning liquids, bleach, water containers, solder, wiring, filters etc
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Post by grumble on Jun 5, 2017 10:07:43 GMT 10
Personally I would be looking to get as many building supplies as I could because they will be very invaluable in times to come
For everything else I would search industrial estate and heavy industry sites
The reason being your far less likely to encounter other people in an industrial wasteland
The place I used to work at had everything plus more that you need for surviving in the times of a complete breakdown of all social order and especially if the lights were never coming back on
for and example they had on site A fully equipped medical facility including a doctors office each department on site also had 1st aid kits that the average prepper would only dream of owning
several crib rooms one for each department and in each crib room there were vending machines and lockers that workers used to keep a small stock of tinned for and prepacked snacks for lunch and dinner while working nightshift and so on but there was a lot of food if you knew where to look
Tool , tool , tools and tools more then you would ever need given they had 3 major workshops and they were well stocked
cleaning and sanitation supplies to last 3 life times including heavy duty decontamination agents for some very nasty chemicals
safety equipment like flame retardant overalls furnace boots P3 full face respirators disposable overalls and the list goes on
My point is though don't miss the forest for the trees there are for better places with better resources to get stuff from with a bit of thought oh and a plant nursery is a better place to look as well then a hardware store as they have in stock the plants that should be getting planted at that time especially fruit and veggies they don't sell things that are not going to grow no nursery will have tomatoes plants ready for planting in winter
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Post by fei on Jun 5, 2017 12:07:16 GMT 10
There are two many things - I go shopping once or twice a month when I am at home back from work and just walk around while the wife shops and I look for things for end of world use, never leave a shop without buying a few doomsday supplies. I'm much the same -- we actually do most of our shopping online now, so only visit the supermarket if something hasn't been delivered in time or we're caught short. I always buy one extra prep item (often cleaning / toiletry items) when I do go to the store though. If I did happen to visit the big-box store in the situation described, and the obvious items like candles and camping gear were all gone, then I would be getting things like cordage, tools, clothing (depending on weather), water storage containers, cooking gear (suitable for use over an open fire), bleach and other sanitation gear, plus anothing that could be used as an effective weapon. |
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Post by shinester on Jun 5, 2017 18:19:35 GMT 10
Nails, screws, welding consumables, mesh, rope, wire... think repairs and building barriers.
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Post by graynomad on Jun 6, 2017 8:19:50 GMT 10
Nails, screws, welding consumables, mesh, rope, wire... think repairs and building barriers. Being a serial builder of stuff and living quite some distance from Bunnings I collect them like they are going out of fashion. |
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Post by frontsight on Jun 7, 2017 11:01:30 GMT 10
If still available:
Sets of files, from bastard to fine
Saw blades
Drill bits
Hand powered drill
Gas can
Charcoal
Fire starter.
Matches
Pencil
Dust mask
Folded up bike
Gloves
Angle iron
Pencils
Motor oil
Soap . Toilet paper. Aeroguard. Pesticide. More socks!
I would think canned food will be gone but
Bulk dog food (they are safe to eat)
Salt, spice and vinegar
Seeds
Cooking oil
More ammo (good luck with that)
All these I own but will be on top of my shopping list for one last trip
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Post by jo on Jun 7, 2017 12:13:16 GMT 10
wool for knitting blankets/beanies/socks jumpers
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Post by token on Jun 10, 2017 21:05:09 GMT 10
Gas cylinders
matches, lighters, strikers, butane, firelighters, kerosene, thinners, turps, bleach, chlorine in bulk, brake fluid in bulk, motor oil in bulk, cooking oil in bulk.
candles, deoderant and perfumes, especially brute as it smells a long distance (purely for attracting people into areas, if they were a threat, or to get away).
cigarettes, rolly papers, pouch tobacco (no i dont smoke, just for barter and or deterrents setting smoking cigarette up to bring in people or get away as it smells a good distance.
ammunition (the majority of people in Aus do not have guns, so useless to them when on the run and weighty, so likely to be left)
fishing tackle
more walky talkies
knives
anything water purification
wet weather clothing, underarmour, shoes for hiking, backpacks, water proof satchels, flares, socks, jocks, first aid kits (heaps of those on shelves ready to go).
books on plants
seeds for food
womens sanitary items, toilet paper
sleeping bags, swags, tents, tarps, buckets, jerry cans (for water and fuels)
all and any chainsaw supplies from chains, bars, to plugs and filters, files
jewellery, gold, silver, precious stones.
screws, grinding discs, battery power tools, hand tools, winching gear, tyres for cars
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Post by blueshoes on Jun 10, 2017 21:47:03 GMT 10
I'd go raid the art/craft store for any kits that contain felt and flammable wood; also kiddie boxed kits that have paint-it mugs, felt or paper in them
paper and pencils and anything that can be used to occupy and educate small children, write notes to neighbours or other survivors, or even just keep one's brain alive
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Post by jo on Jun 13, 2017 18:08:34 GMT 10
Buttons.... everyone's granny or great granny had a tin of them so they must be valuable.... granny made it through the Great Depression with two tins of buttons so she must have been rich
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Post by jo on Jun 13, 2017 18:37:13 GMT 10
Don't worry everyone I just bought a heap of buttons (for $20) so if anyone on this site needs a hand financially I have a pile of buttons to share lol
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Post by spatial on Jun 13, 2017 19:39:32 GMT 10
Buttons.... everyone's granny or great granny had a tin of them so they must be valuable.... granny made it through the Great Depression with two tins of buttons so she must have been rich Yeah my mother had a very large tin of buttons, we used them as 'chips' to play poker - the days before TV etc,, South Africa only got TV in 1976. There are some good uses for those buttons. |
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Post by Peter on Jun 13, 2017 21:23:20 GMT 10
My mother has tins and tins and tins of buttons. The problem is that she keeps them in my shed...
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Post by remnantprep on Jun 13, 2017 21:27:15 GMT 10
Yup we inherited my mum in laws button tin. Lovely buttons. Not just for what the are but as spatial said game pieces as well and craft.
On my way to the mega store I would drop by the library and get as many books as possible. We are going to need entertainment and also doubles as toilet paper and for fire. I would also grab any essential oils etc form the store like those Bosistos sprays the T tree and Lavender ones. Underwear.
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